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Lightning (Final Fantasy)

Just wanted to say nice work in Lightning (Final Fantasy). The improvements have been really good such as adding more information and balancing it. It reminds me to the work in Kefka Palazzo and Balthier. I'm curious about how should a personality section be created for other articles that have large creation sections like Tidus or Cloud Strife. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 22:24, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. I've tried doing something similar with Dante (Devil May Cry) after expanding its creation section. In regards to Deus Ex (series), the article is looking pretty well. The reception section could use general information about sales (which game did best, how it influenced the company or other games). Maybe gameplay could be its own section since it's not related with development. Probably a FA series article could be used as a model. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 20:48, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter on 16 October 2013

VisualEditor is still being updated every Thursday. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at Mediawiki during the previous week. If you haven't done so already, you can turn on VisualEditor by going to your preferences and choosing the item, "MediaWiki:Visualeditor-preference-enable".

The reference dialog for all Wikipedias, especially the way it handles citation templates, is being redesigned. Please offer suggestions and opinions at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. (Use your Wikipedia username/password to login there.) You can also drag and drop references (select the reference, then hover over the selected item until your cursor turns into the drag-and-drop tool). This also works for some templates, images, and other page elements (but not yet for text or floated items). References are now editable when they appear inside a media item's caption (bug 50459).

There were a number of miscellaneous fixes made: Firstly, there was a bug that meant that it was impossible to move the cursor using the keyboard away from a selected node (like a reference or template) once it had been selected (bug 54443). Several improvements have been made to scrollable windows, panels, and menus when they don't fit on the screen or when the selected item moves off-screen. Editing in the "slug" at the start of a page no longer shows up a chess pawn character ("♙") in some circumstances (bug 54791). Another bug meant that links with a final punctuation character in them broke extending them in some circumstances (bug 54332). The "page settings" dialog once again allows you to remove categories (bug 54727). There have been some problems with deployment scripts, including one that resulted in VisualEditor being broken for an hour or two at all Wikipedias (bug 54935). Finally, snowmen characters ("☃") no longer appear near newly added references, templates and other nodes (bug 54712).

Looking ahead: Development work right now is on rich copy-and-paste abilities, quicker addition of citation templates in references, setting media items' options (such as being able to put images on the left), switching into wikitext mode, and simplifying the toolbar. A significant amount of work is being done on other languages during this month. If you speak a language other than English, you can help with translating the documentation.

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Potential Good Topic

Just had a thought- I'm planning on doing the GA review for Lightning tomorrow, and assuming it passes, the only non-GA+ article left related to the FF13 series is Lightning Returns. Given that the game won't be released in English until February, if you get the article peer reviewed, you and I can nominate the whole topic at WP:GTC. Up to you; you've been doing all the work on Lightning Returns (and the series as a whole for the last 6 months or so) so I don't want to step on your toes. --PresN 06:44, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Featured Topics are "a collection of inter-related articles that are of a good quality (though not necessarily featured articles). A featured topic represents Wikipedia's best work by thoroughly covering all parts of that topic through several high-quality articles that share a similar structure and are well-linked with each other." Good Topics are the exact same thing, except that to be Featured >50% of the articles in the topic have to be Featured, while to be Good they just have to all be Good or Featured articles/lists. WP:SE has one featured topic - Final Fantasy VIII - and a few good topics, such as Final Fantasy XII, and Music of the Final Fantasy series.
The only times that an article can be in a featured/good topic and not be featured/good is if: it's an unreleased piece of media, or it's a list that is currently too short to be featured. In this case, Lightning Returns is an unreleased video game, that won't be out in English until February. In that case, in order to have it in the topic, it needs a peer review.
Peer reviews happen at WP:PR. It's basically just a forum where you can post an article and ask for comments- see Lucia's request at Wikipedia:PR#Crystal Defenders.
Basically, once Lightning is a GA and Lightning Returns gets a peer review that's had comments and been closed, then we can nominate the topic at WP:FTC. I can handle that part, if you want, it's just that since Lightning Returns is something you're working on and you've written 3/7 articles in the topic I thought I should get your go-ahead. --PresN 17:37, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lightning (Final Fantasy)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Lightning (Final Fantasy) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of PresN -- PresN (talk) 17:41, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lightning (Final Fantasy)

The article Lightning (Final Fantasy) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Lightning (Final Fantasy) for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of PresN -- PresN (talk) 19:41, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lightning (Final Fantasy)

The article Lightning (Final Fantasy) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Lightning (Final Fantasy) for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of PresN -- PresN (talk) 22:53, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Congrats ProtoDrake! Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 02:36, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Archiving references

So there's two ways to archive references:

1) The longer but more secure way: go to The Web Archive. Enter your url into the box, and hit browse history. For example, I'm going to use [1]. This takes you to here; click the last circle on there (Janunary 20), and it gives you the archive (here). This doesn't always work- for example, 1UP.com blocks it from being archived, and newer or more obscure references might not be there yet.

2) The quicker and more robust way, but might vanish someday: go to WebCitation. That big red banner is why I'm worried about it. enter in the url and an email address, and hit submit- it will return a page with an archive link on it. This way only works if the page is still alive when you archive it; Web Archive still works after the site dies as long as an archive was made at some point, though that's chancy.

Now that you have an archive, add the following to the reference: |archiveurl=(the archive url) |archivedate=(either the date from Web Archive, or today for WebCitation) |deadurl=(yes or no). This is tedious for a lot of links! I have a script that I run on my own articles so that I don't have to do it by hand. Really, you can just decide for yourself which links are most likely to vanish/change irrevocably, and archive those- every so often a website will vanish (*cough* andriasang *cough*) but generally most of the links to recent reviews/articles are pretty safe. Don't worry if you don't want to do any of this- I'm well in the minority about caring about archiving references, and very few people bother- I've just gotten screwed a few years ago on trying to rewrite an article only to find that half of the links no longer worked and I couldn't find replacements. --PresN 04:05, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

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Re: Need help

Sorry for not getting back to you an this; I see that the articles have been split now. Anything else you need help on? --PresN 18:45, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for November 2013

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some feature changes, major infrastructure improvements to make the system more stable, dependable and extensible, some minor toolbar improvements, and fixing bugs.

A new form parsing library for language characters in Parsoid caused the corruption of pages containing diacritics for about an hour two weeks ago. Relatively few pages at the English Wikipedia were affected, but this created immediate problems at some other Wikipedias, sometimes affecting several dozen pages. The development teams for Parsoid and VisualEditor apologize for the serious disruption and thank the people who reported this emergency at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and on the public IRC channel, #mediawiki-visualeditor.

There have been dozens of changes since the last newsletter. Here are some of the highlights:

  • Accidental deletion of infoboxes and other items: You now need to press the Delete or ← Backspace key twice to delete a template, reference or image. The first time, the item becomes selected, and the second time, it is removed. The need to press the delete key twice should make it more obvious what you are doing and help avoid accidental removals of infoboxes and similar (bug 55336).
  • Switch from VisualEditor to the wikitext editor: A new feature lets you make a direct, one-way editing interface change, which will preserve your changes without needing to save the page and re-open it in the wikitext editor (bug 50687). It is available in a new menu in the action buttons by the Cancel button (where the "Page Settings" button used to be). Note that this new feature is not currently working in Firefox.
  • Categories and Languages are also now directly available in that menu. The category suggestions drop-down was appearing in the wrong place rather than below its input box, which is now fixed. An incompatibility between VisualEditor and the deployed Parsoid service that prevented editing categories and language links was fixed.
  • File:, Help: and Category: namespaces: VisualEditor was enabled for these namespaces the on all wikis (bug 55968), the Portal: and Viquiprojecte: namespaces on the Catalan Wikipedia (bug 56000), and the Portal: and Book: namespaces on the English Wikipedia (bug 56001).
  • Media item resizing: We improved how files are viewed in a few ways. First, inline media items can now be resized in the same way that has been possible with block ones (like thumbnails) before. When resizing a media item, you can see a live preview of how it will look as you drag it (bug 54298). While you are dragging an image to resize it, we now show a label with the current dimensions (bug 54297). Once you have resized it, we fetch a new, higher resolution image for the media item if necessary (bug 55697). Manual setting of media item sizes in their dialog is nearly complete and should be available next week. If you hold down the ⇧ Shift key whilst resizing an image, it will now snap to a 10 pixel grid instead of the normal free-hand sizing. The media item resize label now is centered while resizing regardless of which tool you use to resize it.
  • Undo and redo: A number of improvements were made to the transactions system which make undoing and redoing more reliable during real-time collaboration (bug 53224).
  • Save dialogue: The save page was re-written to use the same code as all other dialogs (bug 48566), and in the process fixed a number of issues. The save dialog is re-accessible if it loses focus (bug 50722), or if you review a null edit (bug 53313); its checkboxes for minor edit, watch the page, and flagged revisions options now layout much more cleanly (bug 52175), and the tab order of the buttons is now closer to what users will expect (bug 51918). There was a bug in the save dialog that caused it to crash if there was an error in loading the page from Parsoid, which is now fixed.
  • Links to other articles or pages sometimes sent people to invalid pages. VisualEditor now keeps track of the context in which you loaded the page, which lets us fix up links in document to point to the correct place regardless of what entry point you launched the editor from—so the content of pages loaded through /wiki/Foobar?veaction=edit and /w/index.php?title=Foobar&veaction=edit both now have text links that work if triggered (bug 48915).
  • Toolbar links: A bug that caused the toolbar's menus to get shorter or even blank when scrolled down the page in Firefox is now fixed (bug 55343).
  • Numbered external links: VisualEditor now supports Parsoid's changed representation of numbered external links (bug 53505).
  • Removed empty templates: We also fixed an issue that meant that completely empty templates became impossible to interact with inside VisualEditor, as they didn't show up (bug 55810).
  • Mathematics formulae: If you would like to try the experimental LaTeX mathematics tool in VisualEditor, you will need to opt-in to Beta Features. This is currently available on Meta-wiki, Wikimedia Commons, and Mediawiki.org. It will be available on all other Wikimedia sites on 21 November.
  • Browser testing support: If you are interested in technical details, the browser tests were expanded to cover some basic cursor operations, which uncovered an issue in our testing framework that doesn't work with cursoring in Firefox; the Chrome tests continue to fail due to a bug with the welcome message for that part of the testing framework.
  • Load time: VisualEditor now uses content language when fetching Wikipedia:TemplateData information, so reducing bandwidth use, and users on multi-language or multi-script wikis now get TemplateData hinting for templates as they would expect (bug 50888).
  • Reuse of VisualEditor: Work on spinning out the user experience (UX) framework from VisualEditor into oojs-ui, which lets other teams at Wikimedia (like Flow) and gadget authors re-use VisualEditor UX components, is now complete and is being moved to a shared code repository.
  • Support for private wikis: If you maintain a private wiki at home or at work, VisualEditor now supports editing of private wikis, by forwarding the Cookie: HTTP header to Parsoid ($wgVisualEditorParsoidForwardCookies set to true) (bug 44483). (Most private wikis will also need to install Parsoid and node.js, as VisualEditor requires them.)

Looking ahead:

  • VisualEditor will be released to some of the smaller Wikipedias on 02 December 2013. If you are active at one or more smaller Wikipedias where VisualEditor is not yet generally available, please see the list at VisualEditor/Rollouts.
  • Public office hours on IRC to discuss VisualEditor with Product Manager James Forrester will be held on Monday, 2 December, at 1900 UTC and on Tuesday, 3 December, at 0100 UTC. Bring your questions. Logs will be posted on Meta after each office hour completes.
  • In terms of feature improvements, one of the major infrastructure projects affects how inserting characters works, both using your computer's built-in Unicode input systems and through a planned character inserter tool for VisualEditor. The forthcoming rich copying and pasting feature was extended and greater testing is currently being done. Work continues to support the improved reference dialog to quickly add citations based on local templates.

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 22:13, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Music of FF13-3

My general rule is that I don't make a music article unless there have been 2 full album releases. I didn't do Music of Final Fantasy XIII-2 until both the original soundtrack and the Soundtrack Plus albums were released, and I still haven't done one for FF14 since for the longest time it just had two EPs and just added a full soundtrack in August- when they do the After Meteor soundtrack that I'm sure they're planning I'll go ahead. Lightning Returns just has the soundtrack album and a couple pre-release singles; that's not enough to base an article off of. Without a couple real albums, there's just not enough reception and development info to build an article with- you end up with two paragraphs and a tracklist. I'm certain it will happen - either a Plus album or a piano album - but it won't be for a year at minimum (FF13-2 took 15 months). There's no point waiting around for it. --PresN 22:49, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

FF13 Good Topic nomination

I went ahead and made the FF13 Good Topic nomination at Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/Final Fantasy XIII/archive1; I haven't transcluded it yet onto WP:FTC since you did half the work on it and I thought you'd like to make a nomination statement as well. --PresN 20:12, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

December 2013

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we should consider a character list

for Characters of Drakengard and Drakengard 2, since the vast majority of them, here's some sources i found just by aimlessly looking [2] [3]. Apparently they hold strong connection to the Neon Genesis Evangelion anime series.

Not just the first two. I think the best thing would be something like Characters of the Drakengard series: then we would be able to include stuff from Drakengard 3 when the time came, and possibly even Nier, as it is a spin-off with strong links to the main series. Also, there's a very nice peace of promotional art that would make a perfect leader image for the article. As to the anime, I read in a Dengeki or Famitsu article somewhere that Furiae was inspired by Yoko's dislike for the sister characters in Sister Princess and the kind of female stereotype she represented. Yes, a characters article for the Drakengard series would be nice. We can use Characters of God of War as a template, since that deals quite well with loads of characters and is a featured article. --ProtoDrake (talk) 22:07, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
The Difference is that Drakengard and Drakengard 2 has more characters that they share while Drakengard 3 (prequel) and Nier hold (not completely familiar with either) hold more of a unique cast.Lucia Black (talk) 22:16, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
I see what you mean. I'm not disputing your point by any means, but it does seem unfair to cut out half the current games, and possibly future games in the series, because only the first two have a definite continuity. Also, I think that, apart from Caim, Angelus, Legna, Manah and Seere, all the characters appear in either 1 or 2, not both. And I've just thought, this is quite a coincidence. I was just thinking today that there might be enough materiel to create an article for Caim. --ProtoDrake (talk) 22:29, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Let me clarify. i suggest we have a character list for the first two games but keep Drakengard 3 and Nier out. For example: we would have "Characters of Drakengard and Drakengard 2" (similar to Characters of Final Fantasy X and X-2) "Characters of Nier" and "Characters of Drakengard 3".Lucia Black (talk) 22:33, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
AH! Okay, got it now. Sounds a great idea. Might be busy for a little while though. If you start work, I will be happy to work on it with you. If I start work, just find my sandbox and help create it. Also, I don't know if you saw it, but I did some further work on the main series article. Nice working on something like this, a change from Final Fantasy and Tomb Raider. Nice, dark and complicated both in-universe and in the real world. ;) --ProtoDrake (talk) 22:38, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm unfortunately working on my finals, so i'm not going to be much help other than providing sources in the talkpages.Lucia Black (talk) 22:39, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter • 19 December 2013

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some toolbar improvements, fixing bugs, and improving support for Indic languages as well as other languages with complex characters. The current focus is on improving the reference dialog and expanding the new character inserter tool.

There have been dozens of changes since the last newsletter. Here are some of the highlights:

  • Rich copying and pasting is now available. If you copy text from another website, then character formatting and some other HTML attributes are preserved. This means, for example, that if you copy a pre-formatted suggested citation from a source like this, then VisualEditor will preserve the formatting of the title in the citation. Keep in mind that copying the formatting may include formatting that you don't want (like section headings). If you want to paste plain, unformatted text onto a page, then use Control+⇧ Shift+V or ⌘ Command+⇧ Shift+V (Mac).
  • Auto-numbered external links like [4] can now be edited just like any other link. However, they cannot be created in VisualEditor easily.
  • Several changes to the toolbar and dialogs have been made, and more are on the way. The toolbar has been simplified with a new drop-down text styles menu and an "insert" menu. Your feedback on the toolbar is wanted here. The transclusion/template dialog has been simplified. If you have enabled mathematical formula editing, then the menu item is now called the formula editor instead of LaTeX.
  • There is a new character inserter, which you can find in the new "insert" menu, with a capital Omega ("Ω"). It's a very basic set of characters. Your feedback on the character inserter is wanted here.
  • Saving the page should seem faster by several seconds now.
  • It is now possible to access VisualEditor by manually editing the URL, even if you are not logged in or have not opted in to VisualEditor normally.  To do so, append ?veaction=edit to the end of the page name.  For example, change https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random?veaction=edit to open a random page in VisualEditor.  This is intended to support bug testing across multiple browsers, without requiring editors to login repeatedly.

Looking ahead: The transclusion dialog will see further changes in the coming weeks, with a simple mode for single templates and an advanced mode for more complex transclusions. The new character formatting menu on the toolbar will get an arrow to show that it is a drop-down menu. The reference dialog will be improved, and the Reference item will become a button in the main toolbar, rather than an item in the Insert menu.

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:41, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Re: Need your help

I don't know why or how, but the Video game ratings template in the ratings field was screwing it up. That field is deprecated, so I just removed it. --PresN 22:26, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter for Janaury 2014

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked mostly minor features and fixing bugs. A few significant bugs include working around a bug in CSSJanus that was wrongly flipping images used in some templates in right-to-left (RTL) environments (bug 50910) a major bug that meant inserting any template or other transclusion failed (bug 59002), a major but quickly resolved problem due to an unannounced change in MediaWiki core, which caused VisualEditor to crash on trying to save (bug 59867). This last bugs did not appear on any Wikipedia. Additionally, significant work has been done in the background to make VisualEditor work as an independent editing system.

As of today, VisualEditor is now available as an opt-out feature to all users at 149 active Wikipedias.

  • The character inserter tool in the "Insert" menu has a very basic set of characters. The character inserter is especially important for languages that use Latin and Cyrillic alphabets with unusual characters or frequent diacritics. Your feedback on the character inserter is requested. In addition to feedback from any interested editor, the developers would particularly like to hear from anyone who speaks any of the 50+ languages listed under Phase 5 at mw:VisualEditor/Rollouts, including Breton, Mongolian, Icelandic, Welsh, Afrikaans, Macedonian, and Azerbaijani.
  • meta:Office hours on IRC have been heavily attended recently. The next one will be held this coming Wednesday, 22 January at 23:00 UTC.
  • You can now edit some of the page settings in the "options" dialog – __NOTOC__ and __FORCETOC__ as selection (forced on, forced off, or default setting; bugs 56866 and 56867) and __NOEDITSECTION__ as a checkbox (bug 57166).
  • The automated browser tests were adjusted to speed them up and bind more correctly to list items in lists, and updated to a newer version of their ruby dependencies. You can monitor the automated browser tests' results (triggered every twelve hours) live on the server.
  • Wikipedia:VisualEditor/User guide was updated recently to show some new and upcoming features.

Looking ahead: The character formatting menu on the toolbar will get a drop-down indicator next Thursday. The reference and media items will be the first two listed in the Insert menu. The help menu will get a page listing the keyboard shortcuts. Looking further out, image handling will be improved, including support for alignment (left, right, and center) and better control over image size (including default and upright sizes). The developers are also working on support for editing redirects and image galleries.

Subscriptions to this newsletter are managed at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter. Please add or remove your name to change your subscription settings. If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 20:07, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

The article Tomb Raider: The Angel of Darkness you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Tomb Raider: The Angel of Darkness for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tezero -- Tezero (talk) 20:00, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Re: review

Huh; I see a GA icon. Anyway, I felt that you'd fulfilled what I asked and didn't feel the need to state every such instance on the review page. Tezero (talk) 15:52, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

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Motomu Toriyama

Hey Proto! I think I've read on Characters of the Final Fantasy XIII series some time ago that Toriyama wrote all stories for the Lightning saga. Could you find any sources on his involvement in XIII-2 and Lightning Returns? From the interview in the FF13 Scenario Ultimania we know that he came up with the story outline (characters, plot and cutscene ideas) for FF13. But I can't find anything on his story work for the sequels. If anything, it seems Daisuke Watanabe's role in writing grew further as novelist Jun Eishima was hired as story advisor and Toriyama wasn't even credited as scenario designer anymore. Doesn't help that the question was never asked in any interview I know of. Good job on rewriting the Fabula Nova Crystallis articles by the way. Keep up the good work!Xiomicronpi (talk) 18:50, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Found and read up on some more sources on XIII-2. The new information on the writing sheds more light on the whole affair. Still nothing on Lightning Returns though.Xiomicronpi (talk) 18:41, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor Newsletter—February 2014

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some small changes to the user interface, such as moving the reference item to the top of the Insert menu, as well as some minor features and fixing bugs, especially for rich copying and pasting of references.

The biggest change was the addition of more features to the image dialog, including the ability to set alignment (left, right, center), framing options (thumbnail, frame, frameless, and none), adding alt text, and defining the size manually. There is still some work to be done here, including a quick way to set the default size.

  • The main priority is redesigning the reference dialog, with the goal of providing autofill features for ISBNs and URLs and streamlining the process. Current concept drawings are available at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. Please share your ideas about making referencing quick and easy with the designers.
  • A few bugs in the existing reference dialog were fixed. The toolbar was simplified to remove galleries and lists from the reference dialog. When you re-use references, it now correctly displays the references again, rather than just the number and name. If you paste content into a dialog that can't fit there (e.g. ==section headings== in references), it now strips out the inappropriate HTML.
  • You can now edit image galleries inside VisualEditor. At this time, the gallery tool is a very limited option that gives you access to the wikitext. It will see significant improvements at a later date.
  • The character inserter tool in the "Insert" menu is being redesigned. Your feedback on the special character inserter is still wanted, especially if you depend on Wikipedia's character inserters for your normal editing rather than using the ones built into your computer.
  • You can now see a help page about keyboard shortcuts in the page menu (three bars next to the Cancel button) (T54844).
  • If you edit categories, your changes will now display correctly after saving the page (T50560).
  • Saving the page should be faster now (T61660).
  • Any community can ask to test a new tool to edit TemplateData by leaving a note at T53734.

Looking ahead: The link tool will tell you when you're linking to a disambiguation or redirect page. The warning about wikitext will hide itself after you remove the wikitext markup in that paragraph. Support for creating and editing redirects is in the pipeline. Looking further out, image handling will be improved, including default and upright sizes. The developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments, some behavioral magic words like DISPLAYTITLE, and in-line language setting (dir="rtl").

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Re: A query

From past experiences I've heard of how peer reviews are often done before a FAR due to the amount of important advices you can get. It looks for a GA so a peer review seems unnecessary. Sources for Drakenguard 20's "The Setting and characters" could easily be found in the previews article gaming articles tend to make or game guides like here or here. Sadly, I still haven't played any of the Drakenguards as I'm currently busy with Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne so I don't have much knowledge about. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 23:41, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

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your last edit on halo

But how come all other franchises have American attached to them? Planet of the Apes (franchise) Star Wars etc? Microsoft is an American company when I checked it.69.165.246.181 (talk) 22:18, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

OK you make a point. But is there any specific reason behind this? 69.165.246.181 (talk) 00:47, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Emi Nagashima on FF13-2

Hello ProtoDrake! Just thought I'd clear things up a little. It all started with a June 2011 interview with Motomu Toriyama where it was falsely reported that Emi Nagashima/Jun Eishima was writing the scenario of FF13-2. Toriyama's comment that Nagashima "wrote the scenario basically" referred to Episode i, but GamingUnion thought it referred to FF13-2's scenario. The day after, someone else asked Nagashima on Twitter and she clarified "I'm not in charge of the scenario" (i.e. FF13-2's screenplay, which is true as that was Daisuke Watanabe's doing). Half a year later, she explained that she helped come up with FF13-2's plot/story. Basically, the term scenario means screenplay/script here, that is the dialogue in the game which Nagashima didn't write. She did do parts of the plot/story though.Xiomicronpi (talk) 12:50, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter—March 2014

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on changes to the template and image dialogs.

The biggest change in the last few weeks was the redesign of the template dialog. The template dialog now opens in a simplified mode that lists parameters and their descriptions. (The complex multi-item transclusion mode can be reached by clicking on "Show options" from inside the simplified template dialog.) Template parameters now have a bigger, auto-sizing input box for easier editing.  With today's update, searching for template parameters will become case-insensitive, and required template parameters will display an asterisk (*) next to their edit boxes. In addition to making it quicker and easier to see everything when you edit typical templates, this work was necessary to prepare for the forthcoming simplified citation dialog. The main priority in the coming weeks is building this new citation dialog, with the ultimate goal of providing autofill features for ISBNs, URLs, DOIs and other quick-fills. This will add a new button on the toolbar, with the citation templates available picked by each wiki's community. Concept drawings can be seen at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. Please share your ideas about making referencing quick and easy with the designers.

  • The link tool now tells you when you're linking to a disambiguation or redirect page. Pages that exist, but are not indexed by the search engine, are treated like non-existent pages (T56361).
  • Wikitext warnings will now hide when you remove wikitext from the paragraph you are editing.
  • The character inserter tool in the "Insert" menu has been slightly redesigned, to introduce larger buttons. Your suggestions for more significant changes to the special character inserter are still wanted.
  • The page options menu (three bars, next to the Cancel button) has expanded. You can create and edit redirect pages, set page options like __STATICREDIRECT__, __[NO]INDEX__ and __[NO]NEWEDITSECTION__, and more.  New keyboard shortcuts are listed there, and include undoing the last action, clearing formatting, and showing the shortcut help window. If you switch from VisualEditor to wikitext editing, your edit will now be tagged.
  • It is easier to edit images. There are more options and they are explained better. If you add new images to pages, they will also be default size.  You can now set image sizes to the default, if another size was previously specified. Full support for upright sizing systems, which more readily adapt image sizes to the reader's screen size, is planned.
  • VisualEditor adds fake blank lines so you can put your cursor there. These "slugs" are now smaller than normal blank lines, and are animated to be different from actual blank lines.
  • You can use the Ctrl+Alt+S or ⌘ Command+⌥ Option+S shortcuts to open the save window, and you can preview your edit summary when checking your changes in the save window.
  • After community requests, VisualEditor has been deployed to the Interlingual Occidental Wikipedia, the Portuguese Wikibooks, and the French Wikiversity.
  • Any community can ask for custom icons for their language in the character formatting menu (bold, italic, etc.) by making a request on Bugzilla or by contacting Product Manager James Forrester.

The developers apologize for a regression bug with the deployment on 6 March 2014, which caused the incorrect removal of |upright size definitions on a handful of pages on the English Wikipedia, among others. The root cause was fixed, and the broken pages were fixed soon after.

Looking ahead:  Several template dialogs will become more compact. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. You will be able to see the Table of Contents change live as you edit the page, rather than it being hidden. In-line language setting (dir="rtl") may be offered to a few Wikipedias soon.

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Tales of Zest

So you know, I will format the plot to look like Tales of Xillia and the characters to match Tales of Graces. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 23:45, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Re: New article

Yeah, I guess it's time to make up a Music of Final Fantasy XIV article. I'd love to help. --PresN 17:37, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

It's not quite done, or ready for GAN, but do you think it's robust enough to move out to Music of Final Fantasy XIV? --PresN 18:28, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter—April 2014

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on performance improvements, image settings, and preparation for a simplified citation template tool in its own menu.

  • In an oft-requested improvement, VisualEditor now displays red links (links to non-existent pages) in the proper color. Links to sister projects and external URLs are still the same blue as local links.
  • You can now open templates by double-clicking them or by selecting them and pressing Return. This also works for references, images, galleries, mathematical equations, and other "nodes".
  • VisualEditor has been disabled for pages that were created as translations of other pages using the Translate extension (common at Meta and MediaWiki.org). If a page has been marked for translation, you will see a warning if you try to edit it using VisualEditor.
  • When you try to edit protected pages with VisualEditor, the full protection notice and most recent log entry are displayed. Blocked users see the standard message for blocked users.
  • The developers fixed a bug that caused links on sub-pages to point to the wrong location.
  • The size-changing controls in the advanced settings section of the media or image dialog were simplified further. VisualEditor's media dialog supports more image display styles, like borderless images.
  • If there is not enough space on your screen to display all of the tabs (for instance, if your browser window is too narrow), the second edit tab will now fold into the drop-down menu (where the "Move" item is currently housed). On the English Wikipedia, this moves the "Edit beta" tab into the menu; on most projects, it moves the "Edit source" tab. This is only enabled in the default Vector skin, not for Monobook users. See this image for an example showing the "Edit source" and "View history" tabs after they moved into the drop-down menu.
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Looking ahead: A new, locally controlled menu of citation templates will put citations immediately in front of users. You will soon be able to see the Table of Contents while editing. Support for upright image sizes (preferred for accessibility) is being developed. In-line language setting (dir="rtl") will be offered as a Beta Feature soon. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. It will be possible to upload images to Commons from inside VisualEditor.

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Hey!

How's it going? Been a while, I noticed you seem to have a lot of articles ready for good article nomination. I would like to help you if I can. You probably want to keep working on them but why don't we nominate them for good article status and then keep working on them? They are of excellent quality right now, and really deserve a good article plus sign. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 21:15, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Sorry if I was being vague, I thought your excellent work would be obvious on Square Enix games like Final Fantasy Type-0, Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy, and Music of Final Fantasy XIV. I really feel that these articles could pass GA,and I just wanted to let you know if you wanted someone to carry the GA nominations, I would be willing to help if you wish. They are awesome! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 02:07, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
I agree with Judge, all of those should be good to go for GAN; I'd also add Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster. I can't find anything else for Music of Final Fantasy XIV, so I'm cool with you nominating that (or I can, if you prefer); the last album needs a tracklist but I'll add it today- the script that I use to build tracklists is broken so I was putting off making it by hand. --PresN 17:20, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Alright, I'll do it sometime today; I can help out with your GANs if you need (except FF13-3, still haven't played it). --PresN 17:43, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Haha, I've written/edited a bunch of articles on games I've never played too (and music articles on music I've never listened to- the FF14 article is case in point). I just meant that I do plan to play the game at some point, so I don't want to spoil myself- unlike, say, Type-0, where it doesn't matter to me. Anyway, just let me know. --PresN 18:01, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tezero -- Tezero (talk) 00:40, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

The article Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tezero -- Tezero (talk) 01:00, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

The article Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tezero -- Tezero (talk) 16:41, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Angel of Darkness

If you think my version of the plot for the page Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness is "all over the place" and "overly poetic" (whatever you mean by that), can you please elaborate more concisely, rather than just reverting to your version? It is really frustrating that you insist on controlling this page and preventing others from having the chance to contribute. Hellomontana (talk) 08:37, 19 May 2014 (UTC)