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Great Seljuq Empire

Since you have been editing the Great Seljuq Empire article, I thought I would ask your opinion. Currently the lede sentence is, "The Great Seljuq Empire (Persian: دولت سلجوقیان‎, Modern Turkish: Büyük Selçuklu Devleti) was a medieval Persianate,Turko-Persian Sunni Muslim empire, originating from the Qynyq branch of Oghuz Turks.
What do you think of the lede sentence being this, "The Great Seljuq Empire (Persian: دولت سلجوقیان‎, Modern Turkish: Büyük Selçuklu Devleti) was a medieval Sunni Muslim Persianate empire, originating from the Qynyq branch of Oghuz Turks."??
Since in the following paragraph, Turko-Persian is mentioned. Your thoughts? --Defensor Ursa 20:33, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi Dear Kansas Bear. Before I apologize for my late reply. I think it is more correct the following sentence, "The Great Seljuq Empire" (Persian: دولت سلجوقیان‎) was a medieval Persianate, Muslim Turkic empire, originating from the Qynyq branch of Oghuz Turks. --Qara Khan 17:24, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

"The Great Seljuq Empire" (Persian: دولت سلجوقیان‎) was a medieval Persianate, Muslim Turkic empire, originating from the Qynyq branch of Oghuz Turks.", looks good to me. --Defensor Ursa 12:58, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Template:History of Iran

See Template talk:History of Iran#Template size. I like the new view, but it's not collapsible. --Bejnar (talk) 00:00, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Check out some of my sub-user pages. ༆ (talk) 06:37, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Two suggestions

Hi Qara Van, I preseme that you're new to WP: Wellcome and thanks for the sidebox: History of the Turks pre-14th century. But I'd like to make two suggeations. The image is from the Tulip era of the Ottoman Empire which is in the 18th century, much later than pre 14th century. How about replacing it with a more a more coherent image. On the other hand the dynasties listed in China (and to some extend India) were immediatelly assimilated in the local population. I doubt if they can be called Turkic . How about discarding them ?Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 19:54, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi Nedim Ardoğa. You are right in the first matter. The image comparatively is not appropriate. If you have good suggestion for the new image then change. I don't agree with you in the second matter. Shatuo turks, Mamluk dynasty, Khilji dynasty, Tughlaq dynasty no doubt was turkic origin. I understand why you doubt. Turkey historians think that Xiongnu, Golden Horde, Timurid, Mughal empires even Sumer was turkic :) Qara Khan 05:23, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Edit war

Hi Qara Han, as I have already remarked above, wellcome to WP. WP needs new editors and I am sure you be helpful in creating new articles and expanding the existing ones.But please note that edit war is not permitted in WP. (Besides it is a waste of time and energy for both editors) If you disagree with the other authors, please try to come to a compromise rather than to change the material. You can use the talk pages of the articles.

I am the creator of the page Chaghri Beg. Although this does not give a privilege, the page is on my watchlist. Adding a sidebox was a good idea of yours. But I don't agree with a few of your edits. I changed them back to their original form. But I am eager to discuss with you on the subject. Please see my talk on the talk page of the article. (Talk:Chaghri Beg) Cheers. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 10:16, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

RV

Don't do this again! Why you are behave like this (semi-racism) in Iran articles (like this)? Mervzi (talk) 19:13, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Azerbaijan article is not Iran article. Learn the meaning of the word of Prehistory. Your edits in Azerbaijan article is persian propaganda. Wikipedia is not place of propaganda. Qara khan 14:55, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Please lay away Racist Thoughts. Mervzi (talk) 01:34, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

I struggle to see how using only talk summaries and hurled insults on personal talk pages is a good strategy for resolving this issue. You two should take this dispute to the template talk page, possibly with an RfC and stop the senseless edit-warring. siafu (talk) 19:53, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

List of sultans of the Seljuq Empire

I thought I should let you know that Wikipedia articles can not reference other Wikipedia articles. Therefore this source; http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seldschuken-F%C3%BCrsten#Stammbaum "Liste der Seldschuken-Fürsten", can not be used.

Other than that, I like the article. --Kansas Bear (talk) 16:09, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Move of Bilge Qaghan

Hi, I see you moved Bilge Qaghan while a move discussion was still open at Talk:Bilge Qaghan#Requested move and seemed unlikely to succeed [1]. I think this may have been a mistake, see Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Non-admin closure. Happy to help clean it up. Andrewa (talk) 22:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

History of the Turks

Yes, why you have to my change [2] back? 85.110.81.188 (talk) 17:20, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Ottoman palaces

In case you don't know, edit war is not allowed in WP. For two times you deleted a table from the article Ottoman palaces in Istanbul which I've created. Unles you have a logical reason, you can't delete any encycloapedic content from the article. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 13:43, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

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About what you said before.

Actually the Turks didn't rule Iran from 1029 to 1925, just wanted to tell you this so people wouldn't laugh at you or get angry at you if you said that in real life, take this as advice. --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:03, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Template:History of the Turks pre-14th century

Discussion was closed by a third party. You cannot reverse it unilaterally.Cavann (talk) 20:15, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cavann (talk • contribs) 19:15, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello Qara Xan. You cannot move an article or template after a WP:RM discussion. As a result, I have moved the template back and locked it in place for a month. If you disagree with the decision of the discussion's closer, you can either discuss with them, or open another debate (usually it is wise to wait some time, as opening another discussion immediately afterwards is generally frowned upon). Please do not attempt to change the template's heading. If you do this, you will be blocked. Cheers, Number 57 20:14, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, I already have agreed, but i am angry for your unfair warning. If you again threaten me, first you will be blocked by a Bureaucrat. Cheers, Qara Khan 07:13, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

He didn't threaten you, he gave you fair warning to not move templates against consensus, and simply told you what the consequences would be if you did that again. Bureaucrats are just admin with extra tools, they aren't our bosses, so they generally don't go around blocking other admin. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 00:29, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Salam

Salam Qara xan bəy çoxlar təəssüf ki bizim tariximizi qəbul etmeylər. sizin çalişmağuza görə bütün dünya Azərbaycanlilarin haqində təşəkkür etmək istirəm. Dəstəkləyirəm və uğurlar diləyirəm--'''SAMƏK''' (talk) 12:50, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Əleyküm Salam Samək bəy dediyiniz xoş sözlərə görə sizə çox təşəkkür edirəm. Həmçinin həyat və fəaliyyətinizdə uğurlar diləyirəm. Hörmətlə: Qara xan 20:03, 06 June 2013 (UTC)

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Bilgetigin

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Battle of Dandanaqan

Thanks for dropping me a line, but don't get frustrated just because you missed that half sentence. Source checking is always a good thing. --Kansas Bear (talk) 14:08, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Bilgetigin

You cannot copy every word of a source into an article, even if it is a reliable source. That is called violating copyright. I have removed the copied text. Koumz (talk) 23:51, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Ghaznavids

Hello, Qara xan. You have new messages at Talk:Ghaznavids#Misuse of source.
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Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 11:22, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Hello there, just wanted to tell this; accuse me of being a vandal for no reason once again, and I will report you. And unlike you, I know what i'm saying since I know the rules. And don't think I will simply let you continue your disruptive editing, take a look here [3]. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 21:15, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

I wrote Vandalism not vandal. Read the article, WP:Vandalism. I don't understand what is your problem with me :) --Qara khan 22:20, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

"Sigh"..

Anyway i would read that link if i were you, since if you keep ignoring the talk page after some days, i am allowed to edit it back, and if you revert me after that again, i can easily report you, and trust me, you will get blocked after that. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 22:28, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

I have posted on the Ghaznavid talk page. Hopefully we can use the information on the pre-Ghaznavid governors somewhere. --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:30, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

HistoryofIran, What are you waiting? go report me :) We will see who will be blocked. --Qara khan 07:18, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

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Wikipedia and copyright

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Please carefully read the sentence starting with "Aside from limited quotation..." and the link to Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. If I look at something and it clearly resembles another text it may still be copyvio according to our policy. Dougweller (talk) 18:35, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Dougweller, I get it now. Thanks for explanation. --Qara khan 19:55, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

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Atabeg

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Malik-Shah I

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HistoryofIran (talk) 14:16, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

I still await an answer, if not, i will edit it back to what is was. And if you revert me after that, i will report you per [4]. If you have something to say, don't revert but talk about it with me instead (per WP:BRD). And don't revert until we have reached a consensus.

I have clearly explained that why i reverted you and i see you don't agree with me again. My suggestion is that we have to ask another users' thought. Are you agree? --Qara khan 22:59, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Take a look on what i wrote to you in the talkpage of the article.

Still waiting for a response. My patience is almost over. --HistoryofIran (talk) 16:16, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Take a look here [5].

Ahmad Sanjar

Please learn your maths instead of reverting me and stop stalking me for gods sake. If Ahmad Sanjar ruled from 1097 (per this source [6]) and stopped ruling in 1157. How many years is that? exactly. Now will you please stop or do i have to call an admin? --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:52, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

By the way, i still await a answer on the Malik-Shah I talk page and don't try anything funny, because i will not be this patient and naive this time. --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:09, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Sanjar was governor of Khorasan between 1097-1118 and was sultan of the Seljuk Empire between (1118-1153 also 1156-1157). Sanjar remained in captivity for three and a half years (1153-1156). First learn difference between governor of a region and sultan of a empire. Also I am not stalking you. I am interested in the Seljuk Empire, Seljuk sultans. --Qara khan 20:15, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

The source says something else, but nice try. Although he was captured in some time, he was still recognized as the Sultan of the Seljuq Empire. --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:20, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Do you ever listen? alright then. I had warned you. --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

I added information with its reference (Encyclopædia Britannica) to the article, Ahmad Sanjar. I do not understand your purpose. --Qara khan 20:52, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

First of all, the source is not reliable (ask an admin yourself and even if it was then it doesn't make a difference if you actually took a look on what i wrote). Didn't you read/understand all that i wrote before? is it that hard? --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:54, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Take a look here [7]. --HistoryofIran (talk) 23:34, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

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tuoba

tuoba is turkic dont you see referncesMehmeett21 22:16, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

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Kara-Khanid Khanate plagiarism

I reverted your last edit on Kara Khanids, which appeared to be copy & pasted. I tried to keep what I thought you were looking to include, when I re-wrote the sentence. You might let me know if it works for you. Also, the Persian language source is the next paragraph after the one you copied.

• "Several Qara-khanid rulers are famous for their literary activity. The two last western ḵāqāns, Ebrāhim b. Ḥo-sayn (1178-1203) and ʿOṯmān (1202-12), wrote poetry in Persian..."
  

I will let you restore the Persian language and its source, though it should have "poetry" after Persian. --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:28, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

A Khagan's a poetry in persian doesn't make official language Persian. Also many of the khagans had a poetry in Turkic. --Qara Khan 22:36, 02 April 2015 (UTC)

Persian would not be an official language, just poetry. Turkic is already mentioned, is it not? --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:51, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

E-mail

I need your e-mail to discuss Malik-Shah, thank you RussianDewey (talk) 01:11, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

What's the point?

Care to explain your edit and edit summary, "Turkophobia"?? --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:21, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:B%C3%B6riShad, I have reverted your reinstatement of the rantings of a blocked sockpuppet. --Kansas Bear (talk) 03:19, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

There is a complaint about your edits on my talk page

Qara xan: please see User talk:EdJohnston#Hello - again. I'm leaving you a formal notice, although you've already replied in that discussion, because it looks like you made a 3RR violation on June 3 at Template:History of Iran. You also seem to have several reverts on other articles. If you want to avoid a block you should make some assurance that this problem won't continue, and that you will wait for the outcome of proper talk page discussions about all these articles. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 23:55, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Your recent posts at User talk:Kansas Bear suggest you intend to hurt the editor in real life. If you don't withdraw this threat immediately, you may be blocked. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 15:28, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Blocked

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See the above discussion for details. EdJohnston (talk) 16:13, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

• For any reviewing admin, there may be some linkage with RussianDewey, but seem not worth filing if both are indef blocked already. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 18:38, 10 June 2015 (UTC)