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For reviewing my DYK hook. Normally, it is good practice not to refactor one's post, but to use strikeout and correction. I try to follow that, except when I see a typo seconds after posting. I didn't do that in this case, eg Taxas Texas, as I assume that once approved, someone will copy and past paste the hook itself. I do know some are quite picky about refactoring after the fact, so I'm erring on the side of caution and mentioning it to you here. Thanks for your attention to detail, I had to read it twice to see it. That would have been embarrassing had it not been caught.--SPhilbrickT 16:13, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing this :-) The explicit "should have seen the signal was set for the wrong line" comes from Reed's book - he points out that the track signals were located 500 feet ahead and says he "failed to observe" them, "probably because he was going much too fast to notice them." The contemporary railroading publications I cited all assigned blame to both the engineer and the signalman. As the first sentence of the paragraph states, the Board of Commissioners blamed the engineer more. The press emphasized his speed. While the jury blamed both. The engineer was a relatively recent hire who had originally come from St. Louis as a strikebreaker, and he vanished - I could not find sources saying he had reappeared, though Reed's book gives his POV. The signalman pleaded the Fifth but had told friends he felt ill and climbed down from the tower. So all the sources in fact say the train was going at an excessive speed and the engineer was partly to blame for that reason. (If I were injecting POV I would infer that he was "railroaded" in absentia and the signalman had simply left the switch set as it had been for the previous train while he snuck down to relieve himself or have a smoke.) If you look at the references you'll see what I mean - Reed's book (no Google Books view) says "should have seen the signal" but the rest are all saying "excessive speed" and the newspaper is calling for his head. So that's the way it is in the sources I'm afraid. I see someone else has now accepted it for DYK; if you still think the last couple of sentences should be tweaked, have a look at the sources and go ahead; I can't see how, they are all judgmental.Yngvadottir (talk) 04:34, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Tahnks for the compliment! I tried and failed, online and via interlibrary loan, to track down the book that has further details . . . apparently the passengers clambered over the balcony into a lady's parlor and she was irate. So the landlord took the balconies off the building in case it happened again :-D Yngvadottir (talk) 16:55, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Re:DYK nomination of David C. Chapman

Hook reworded per request. Chris (talk) 20:10, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Grangegorman killings

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DYK for Grangegorman killings

RlevseTalk 06:03, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Classic book

Re. Template_talk:Did_you_know#Classic_book

The article has now been expanded a bit more, so can you please reassess the DYKS? Thanks,  Chzz  ►  17:08, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Oops, sorry. Needs 8045, and it's only 7787. I'll try to add more, and let you know. Chzz  ►  17:10, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments re: 5x character count on the Did You Know nomination page. Article now has 8504 characters, so it qualifies as being 5x expanded (original size 1609 characters). Please re-assess. ThanksShearonink (talk) 21:17, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

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For looking at it, and the notice. I've responded. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 18:49, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Tx for indicating the blog issue is resolved. I've responded further on the other issue. BTW -- I'm fine w/anyone indicating in the article about him seeing psychiatrists, or would be happy to add it myself if you like. I don't think psychiatric problems are the same as intelligence issues -- I'm not even sure that there is a correlation between the two. Anger management and spelling ability are two different things. I think that what we mean by unduly negative would be something like "Did you know that the accused person X is accused of drinking the victim's blood?", or "did you know that accused person X is accused of laughing as he tortured person z". This, it strikes me, is rather mild, and in context not "unduly" negative. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 22:29, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Great. Many thanks. BTW, when this is done, we can have if you like a longer discussion on the (now resolved -- tx for the second look) issue of facts in blogs reported by RSs. In short, my view is as follows. RSs report all manner of information that, were it not in an RS, would not be covered by wikipedia. Comments by neighbors, by co-workers, by standers-by, etc. In addition to comments in blogs. We rely on RSs to be prudent in their use of sources. If they report what is in a blog, and certainly what is in a blog that is notable by wiki standards and widely quoted by RS media, then that raises it to the level of what can be included in a blp. That has to be distinguished from blog/neighbor/co-worker/standers-by comments that do not appear in an RS. Make any sense?--Epeefleche (talk) 23:04, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ivor Browne

RlevseTalk 06:03, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Hmm

Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Too_much_terrorism.3F RlevseTalk 21:57, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Re on my talk page. RlevseTalk 22:25, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

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Careful with your tags

Thanks for your CSD-tagging efforts, but please take a minute to consider everything before you decide which tag to place- a page called "Gordon Brown one eye" whose only content is "failure" is a prime target for G10 and not really the kind of thing we want picked up by search engines if possible. :) Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:32, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

You're right, I'm sorry, when I read it first, I thought it said "Golden Brown one eye". My mistake, I'll be more careful next timeQuasihuman (talk) 11:38, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Charles Boycott

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Question on my talk page

Quasihuman I did it because of the inappropriate use of language and because on Lupin's Anti Vandal Tool the word he used 'suck' was flagged up and to me it was inappropriately placed there. I hope this clarifies the situation.
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Scarlet Heavens

Thnx 4 your concern and input. I completely forgot how to move the page. So if you can help me out here by putting the article into it's real name please and thanks. If you have seen before I referenced the name so there is it's reason of change, clearly. & I got rid of that tag because I didn't want the page turn into nothing when it had something.Angxst (talk) 19:46, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Spirit of metal

apparently is not a reliable source and Katatonia.com the band's official website is probably the only place for katatonia info.Angxst (talk) 23:41, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Primordial

Yea I looked at the Primordial website before you responded & since there's two different names Im leaving it as it be but if anything maybe both names should be merged? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angxst (talkcontribs) 00:27, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Removed speedy deletion tag: Rolf Jardemark

Hi Quasihuman! Firstly, thanks for helping out in CSD areas. I just wanted to inform you that I removed the speedy deletion tag you placed on Rolf Jardemark- because: The article makes a claim to importance: Has appeared on national TV, and played with notable bands. Please feel free to AfD. If you have any questions or other message, please contact me. Thanks Kingpin13 (talk) 13:00, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Sure, feel free to go for AfD, I'm not convinced it passes our notability guidelines (but bear in mind that WP:A7 is separate from WP:NN). I will just correct you on two points though, playing with notable singers/bands could convey notability (from WP:BAND: "is a musician who has been a member of two or more independently notable ensembles."), and playing on TV can also convey notability ("Has performed music [...] in a television show"). Not say he passes WP:BAND, but make sure you read through it carefully :). Best, - Kingpin13 (talk) 17:46, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

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L & H Society auditors

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Edits at "Nuclear Weapon"

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No problem. Thanks for thanking me, that kind of thing makes Wikipedia a friendlier place! Quasihuman (talk) 13:26, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

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I didn't request speedy deletion, I restored the note.--The Master of Mayhem 17:54, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

No problem.--The Master of Mayhem 18:21, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

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DYK for Lansdowne Road football riot

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DYK for Victoria Roberts (cartoonist)

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Thanks, I already spotted that. Considering they've already been warned for personal attacks and had their comments on my talk page deleted as vandalism by another user, I don't think they're doing themself any favor by their rant on the Afd. Edward321 (talk) 11:43, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi Quasihuman, nice work there, once again ... I've touched it up a bit. Re: family circumstances, that doesn't sound good at all. Graham87 03:33, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks SP, they look delicious. Quasihuman | Talk 18:14, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

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ROTFLMAO

Cheers mate, that was a very unfortunate typo. I really, really don't have a problem with anyone cleaning up my screwups. Very much appreciated. Cheers. Wee Curry Monster talk 21:14, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Merge "Insight", "Eureka effect" and "Aha! effect"?

I see you have contributed significantly to the article Eureka effect. I would like to alert you to a further article, Aha! effect, which seems to treat the same subject (both articles point to the same German article, in fact), and also itself states "(also known as Insight)". I, for one, find it difficult to see the difference between the subjects. Should all three articles be merged? --Florian Blaschke (talk) 10:04, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

I would agree with some of that, that article was actually the first article I contributed to, and I edited it last over a year ago. Maybe you could start a merge discussion somewhere about the title of the final article. Reading Insight, it appears that Eureka effect and Aha! effect are a type of insight which happens suddenly, so a separate article from Insight might be merited. I would support a merge between Aha! effect and Eureka effect, but have no opinion on what the name of the article should be. Quasihuman | Talk 10:26, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
But where will people actually see it? If I just slap a merge tag on the article, nothing is going to happen, from my wiki experience. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 11:43, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
Well if you want to do the merge yourself, you don't need many people to comment on it. At least give watchers of the articles a chance to comment, if nobody opposes within a week or two, you can go ahead. The merge doesn't look that hard to do, I'll do it if you don't want to, but I think it should be discussed first at Talk:Aha! effect. Quasihuman | Talk 15:17, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
I would appreciate it very much if you took care of the merger. :-) --Florian Blaschke (talk) 15:33, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

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"Quasihuman":

My name is Robert, and I need to have Brainware's entry restored (edited, if necessary). Was wondering if you could provide the full text from the deleted Brainware page. Thank you.

Robert Zoch

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Brainware

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I have edited the page for Brainware, as per your directions. I would like to ask that it be restored at this time. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RobertZBrainware (talkcontribs) 20:18, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

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Re User Flix11

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So, you wrote:

I'm a little disturbed by this edit. Its pretty clear that the user does understand English, given this article, which he/she wrote (in English). People could easily find warnings like that offensive, especially as his nationality is mentioned, and associated with the assumed lack of English. Maybe you could rethink this. Thanks, Quasihuman | Talk 13:28, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Well firstly, thanks for the feedback - always welcomed, and I'm more than happy to discuss my edit, which I have now reconsidered and toned down - though only slightly.

Let me try to justify my edit, and start by confessing to some pet hates.

Given that this is English wikipedia, I feel that editors have responsibilities as well as rights.

So we wp:AGF and hope they address our concerns. When they don't - esp. if they continue their faults AND refuse to discuss them - then AGF is pointless IMHO. When they don't talk, I try to obtain some reaction from them, as normal means have with them proven fruitless.

Yes, they may find it a little offensive, but if they respond to say so, that's fine & I'd apologise to them & be friendly.

So often I find that non-native English-speakers seem to refuse to read or respond to normal WP warnings - as this user has repeatedly done.

However, thank you for expressing your concern, and I have as I say toned down my comments a little.

May I also add that your concerns were well and politely worded. I'm happy to receive any further feedback. Regards, --Trafford09 (talk) 14:23, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Ok, that's partly reasonable, but it has to be said that the user is a good-faith editor, I haven't seen anything in his/her edits that show any evidence of bad faith editing, most of their edits are minor things that need doing (he/she showed up on my watchlist by fixing links to disambiguation pages). I'm not trying to say that the editor is as pure as the driven snow, the lack of edit summaries, and the lack of response is of concern, but in general the editor is the kind we should be trying to retain in my opinion. My approach would be to encourage the editor to communicate,rather than warn them. I agree that this encyclopedia, because it is collaborative, needs users to be able to communicate, we differ on our approach to the problem. I'll leave a message on the user's talk page expressing this. Thanks for your response, Quasihuman | Talk 14:49, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Noted - thanks. --Trafford09 (talk) 15:11, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you about this again, I just noticed that the user has started using edit summaries in coherent English.[1] I don't think that the warning is relevant any more, so can you consider removing it? The fact that he/she created an article in perfect English, and is now using edit summaries in English means that he/she is fluent enough for Wikipedia. Quasihuman | Talk 18:25, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Well, various editors have gone to some lengths, to engage with Flix11 & endeavour to persuade him to collaborate. Our collective efforts have resulted in 4 Edit summaries (ESs) out of now 29 edits since your courteous talk to him. Does it mean he read his talk page? Is 4/29 good enough? Has he engaged with us - written a response to show he can collaborate, has changed his ways & is henceforth fully prepared to co-operate?

I would say not. I admire your AGF, but I cannot yet match it. I need to see proper evidence.

You posit that he "created an article in perfect English". He wrote 1 article, and this is how he was content to leave it, seemingly. Well, I don't follow the sentences "At the drawing, the winner of semi-final 2 (who will play winner from quarter-final 2 and 1) have a chance to host if they clinch the final spot. They are Cerezo Osaka, Jeonbuk Hyundai Motors (QF1), Al-Ittihad, and FC Seoul (QF2).".

If Flix11 can read, understand and be bothered to ask for better treatment himself, then I'll be amenable to considerable back-tracking. Until then, I'm afraid I see no room for further movement on my own part. I respect your efforts & different opinion, though, and hope that you or others have more headway with him than one has seen to date.

Oh - how about we keep this discussion on 1 page - I will keep yours watchlisted. Regards, --Trafford09 (talk) 01:53, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I don't see that we're going to make any progress with this here, and I'm not inclined to take it any further, there is just one thing I wanted to say. You have mentioned AGF several times, personally, I'm nearly 100% sure that the user is here to improve the encyclopedia, given their edits. The problems with the user are ones of competence, not bad faith. Thanks for dealing with this issue with politeness and professionally, many users I engage with do not react as well when I criticize their edits, so its been a refreshing change. Quasihuman | Talk 00:03, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Aizat Amdan

I acknowledge your notification on my talk about Aizat Amdan. It is better to see some references there, but WP needs more than 1 source. Try improve there if you can. » nafSadh did say 14:00, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll see what I can do, there seems to be plenty of sources available, most of which are in Malay, a language which I don't speak. Nevertheless, there are some English language newspapers covering him. Quasihuman | Talk 15:02, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

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Southside Wesleyan Church

I received your note. The reason for the deletion was its lack of notability. It was tagged a long time ago for that reason: "The notability of this article's subject is in question. If notability cannot be established, it may be listed for deletion or removed. Tagged since August 2010." Do you have any new sources to change this other editor's judgment? Speedy deletion would remove the article. Thanks. รัก-ไทย (talk) 17:22, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Replied on user's talk page. Quasihuman | Talk 17:42, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Advice appreciated and heeded. I saw others do as I did, but as you say, incorrectly. รัก-ไทย (talk) 18:11, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

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