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Sanhaung Paochui

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Hi. Thank you for working to rewrite this article, but I'm afraid that there are lingering problems. I have blanked the article for now to provide time to resolve these issues. For more detail, please see Talk:Sanhaung Paochui. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 16:29, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi. As indicated, the article needs to be rewritten in the temporary space linked. The copyright problem template is to be removed only by administrators. Please let me know at that article's talk page if you need assistance or clarification on this. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 16:51, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi. I'm thinking from your edit to the talk page that this process is not as clear as it should be. :) The template on the article's talk links to the following space: [1]. This should be used to create an entirely new article. The reason for this is that you have already incorporated text from the other site, and revisions to that do not create a new creative work, but a "derivative" work, which we can't use without permission of the original copyright holder. Again, please let me know if you need assistance or clarification on this. The intent is not to make things difficult for you, but to be sure that we can create an article that Wikipedia can legally display. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 17:04, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your note. :) Yes, you certainly can write about the same subject. The problem with the rewrite you propose is that it still has the structure of the original, which makes it still a derivative of their work, even though you are replacing some of the words with synonyms. I do a lot with rewriting to avoid copyright problems, and I know it can be a pain in the neck to find completely new ways to say something. Give me a minute to draft an example, and I'll see if I can help you. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 17:14, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

←Okay, I've gone back to the original source to see what I can come up with. It's far easier to rewrite an entire paragraph at once than it is to rewrite sentence by sentence. When you rewrite whole paragraphs, you can more easily extract the important information. The paragraph I'm working with is this one:

According to ancient chronicles, at the turn of the Ming and Qing dynasties, Monk Puzhao toured Mount Emei in Sichuan Province, where he met a Daoist priest from whom he learned the Chuan. After mastering the art, Monk Puzhao taught it to Qiao Sanxiu and Gan Fengchi during Qing em-perors Kangxi and Yong-zheng's reigns (1622-1735). He taught Qiao to temper suppleness through hardness, with suppleness as the core and hardness as the outward application. In contrast, he taught Gan to temper hardness through suppleness, with hardness as the core and suppleness as the outward application.

Something like that could be rewritten this way:

Chronicles relate that San Huang Pao Chui began to spread during the turn of the Ming and Qing dynasties, when the monk Puzhao learned the Chuan from a Daoist priest he met on Mount Emei in Sichuan Province and subsequently transmitted it to his pupils Qiao Sanxiu and Gan Fengchi. Puzhao's students were taught different forms of the technique. The form taught to Qiao Sanxiu placed soft, supple motions at its core, expressed with strength and power. The form taught to Gan Fengchi reversed the dynamic, with a powerful core expressed softly and agilely.

It's a little difficult for me to rewrite this because I have no idea what it means to "temper suppleness through hardness" (or the opposite), never having studied a martial art. :) I would be more comfortable if we could get more distance from the original in the forms, but proper rewriting requires understanding of the material that I lack.

Once the article is written in new language in that temporary space, it will be used to replace the old one, so it will keep the same title.

If you'd like, I would be happy to collaborate with you on rewriting this. I can create a new text in the temporary space, and you can help me with the parts that I do not understand. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 17:28, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

The listing period for this has closed, and as it has been over a week without contact, I presume that you are no longer interested in working on this. Accordingly, the article has been deleted, as there is no usable version for us to replace it with. If I can be of assistance to you, please feel free to come by my talk page. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:01, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

December 2009

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