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Thanks[edit]

Thanks for your careful consideration at my successful RfA. Please let me know on my talk page if you have any suggestions for me. - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 20:24, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion[edit]

I notice that you tagged the page Image:Britney Spears Fire.png for speedy deletion with the reason "copyright violation". While that's a valid reason for speedy deletion in general, this page does not qualify for speedy deletion under that criterion because because you haven't specified the site that you say the image was copied from, I can't establish that it is indeed a copyright violation. If you still want the page to be deleted, please consider tagging it with a speedy deletion template which does apply, redirecting it to another page, or using the WP:PUI process. Thanks! Stifle (talk) 23:22, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well it's a shot from a music video so his only claim to it would be under fair use, I didn't mean to tag it as a speedy, an error on my part, I meant to tag it under no fair use rational (which it needs) which I've just done. Sorry about that Stifle, my bad. :-/ — Realist2 23:36, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again! I am thinking of nominating the article No Jacket Required for Featured Article candidacy, and am looking for some advice. I have never nominated a featured article before, and was wondering if you think there are any current problems with the article that would detract and quickly fail the nomination. Or, if you have any advice that you'd like to give me before I make the decision of nominating the article. Thank you, and have a nice day! :) CarpetCrawler (talk) 04:56, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ahhh, it already has, per [1] here! And best of luck to your RFA, if you decide to go ahead and try it! And nice to see your work getting the recognition it deserves (Your barnstar) :) Have a nice day and feel free to take your time! CarpetCrawler (talk) 16:37, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Realist, just spent over 3 hours reviewing you, and I think you're ready... if you are interested, take a look at my essay how to pass an RfA, answer the questions, and jump in. I advise not transcluding your RfA unless you have 2-4 hours to watch it, people at RfA can be funny and demand answers right away from candidates when the RfA goes live. If you want a co-nom, it's up to you, but I advise no more than one other person (2 would be ok, but 1 is best.)---Balloonman PoppaBalloon 07:41, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Finally! – How do you turn this on (talk) 16:59, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed that you currently have 3 noms... three really is the upper limit. Anything more than that and you will start garnering opposes. Hecks, some people don't even like 3! If anybody else adds a nom, I would strongly encourage you to get rid of one... keep it to 3 total noms!

Good Luck, take your time with your answers - I've no doubts about your policy knowledge, contributions or commitment. Don't take anything too personally, either, as people can be ruthless (which you know all too well)- just become a piece of meat for a week. – Toon(talk) 00:07, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers Toon05. Advise noted :-) — Realist2 00:10, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In this particular case, I'd say the three noms are appropriate; given that Balloonman, myself, and RH+E rarely agree on anything, it shows broad support from different "factions" at RFA. With anything I say, go with Balloonman's advice over mine, as my RFA nomination record is not exactly stellar (number of successful RFA nominations: one). – iridescent 18:07, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My support awaits. ayematthew 22:48, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One successful nom... is it too late for me to back out ;-)---Balloonman PoppaBalloon 06:27, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers, nice signature BTW. :-) — Realist2 22:49, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar[edit]

The Original Barnstar
For your hard work at improving and fighting off vandalism on Circus‎, "Womanizer", and "Circus"!‎ TheLeftorium 14:44, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oww, thank you, seriously this is appreciated. I was beginning to feel like a lone sailor on those articles, it's really hard to keep all of them clean you know. Thank you again. — Realist2 14:47, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You did that just to force me to change my nom didn't you ;0---Balloonman PoppaBalloon 16:48, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Damn it, I'm causing trouble already :D — Realist2 16:49, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I see what's going on here...finally. Useight (talk) 16:56, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Brazil Charts[edit]

Why Brazil is not added in the chart CDs Circus? These references are officers here in Brazil. Is there a bias? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabriel teodoro (talkcontribs) 18:15, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


What is considered official chart Brazilian then? Thanks for the information! =] Gabriel teodoro (talk) 18:20, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion[edit]

You are probably right. Once I finish, it will get overwhelming.—Kww(talk) 21:32, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey![edit]

I see you're going for the mop soon, good luck! I've had your RfA page in my watchlist for a while just in case so it isn't quite as stalkerish as it first seems, or is it? Anyway, I'll be sure to vote as soon as (ish) it comes live.

Btw, we never did work on vitiligo! This week'll be fairly stressful for you but I suggest we get to it at some point after that!

Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 23:25, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, it's still on my to-do list. The ex-mas holidays are just around the corner, we will do it then, if your free. :-) — Realist2 23:51, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Recording artist"[edit]

Would love to hear your thoughts on this issue, since the term is used in this article as well. See Talk:Mariah Carey#Recording artist. Orane (talk) 06:45, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My response is viewable here. — Realist2 12:47, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was the first... I'm NEVER the first[edit]

*Sigh* - you are valued you know[edit]

Me neither. But time passes. Plenty of people really value your work here - don't forget that. Pedro :  Chat  22:01, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to second this, even though I was going to oppose the RfA. For the most part, I am grateful for your prolific work on Wikipedia. Thank you. -kotra (talk) 22:52, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No hard feelings Kotra, your oppose was the least of my concern, although I knew it was coming, I hope your opinion of me changes over time, I will try to take some of your advise. I'm happy that you had the guts to air this on wiki. — Realist2 22:54, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I'm sure my opinion will change for the better. Most of my problems are things from the past and will recede into irrelevance as time goes on. Best of luck in the future! -kotra (talk) 23:17, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This sucks...[edit]

...I was going to support. I'm so sorry this happened! ayematthew 22:07, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chin up[edit]

Just a quick message. I'm not sure what happened with your RFA, but I have to say that no matter what has been said, the RFA is not about your nominators maintaining their reputations, it's about the candidate and whether they are ready and able to take the extra buttons. Clearly you aren't in the right place right now for whatever reason, and there's nothing wrong with that; to be honest you've contributed a stupid amount to this project without the buttons, and there's no reason why this won't continue. I hope this experience (and the bitterness of some) doesn't leave a sour taste - recognise that the project would be all the poorer without you - believe me, it would. Hopefully you'll carry on as normal, and in future the mop and bucket will be waiting, should you choose to run the gauntlet again. Best, – Toon(talk) 01:54, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

........[edit]

How the hell is that vandalising?!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.50.34 (talk) 16:48, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

With all due respect Realist, I don't think this was vandalism. The genre is written with capitals. See New Wave music. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 17:27, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, he was altering the capitalization, but he was also altering other aspects of the genre info box. I had to reinsert pop music after him for a start. I was meant to tag him for the same thing as the caution warning I gave him. I must not have scrolled down to the correct label on my twinkle device. Alternatively, maybe twinkle automatically labels a level 5 warning for original research as vandalism? Anyway, he did go on to vandalize and cause disruption, he's blocked for that as well. He's also a sock puppet of User:Jamalar. — Realist2 17:46, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Update, twinkle automatically labels a level 5 warning for original research as vandalism. Complaints should be directed at Mr Twinkle, not me. :-) — Realist2 17:48, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Haha no worries, it wasn't a complaint, just curious. I noticed he was sock soon after I posted this anyway, so I look silly now. Nevermind :) —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 17:49, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Mind you, you have court onto something. Why on earth is twinkle labeling a level 5 warning for original research as vandalism? Seems a little harsh? — Realist2 17:51, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Presumably because if the user has ignored four other notices, it's almost guaranteed to be vandalism. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 17:52, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Suppose, still a little concerning, anyway, the right thing happened in the end, just a little...odd. :-/ — Realist2 17:57, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's not too bad, it's just because if someone has ignored four warnings it is vandalism, since vandalism is defined as deliberate attempts to disrupt the encyclopaedia. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 18:00, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Block[edit]

Why I will be blocked? --Dindo94 (talk) 00:09, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You won't be blocked if you listen to your warnings. Stop adding unsourced information to Wikipedia. If you do use sources make sure they are reliable. No linking to Youtube, it is rarely allowed. — Realist2 00:13, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Its Britney B*tch![edit]

peer review open. Wes already got started on it. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 00:14, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have you seen my to-do list atop? :-) — Realist2 00:15, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
yes! hehe. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 00:16, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I wanna get it done over X-mas, I got other stuff to do as well mind. — Realist2 00:17, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Everything in Time[edit]

Thank you for the weirdest talk page comment I've ever got. :) Good luck with your own projects. -- Escape Artist Swyer Talk Contributions 20:08, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think you are being a bit too agressive with component charts[edit]

While I agree with your basic stance, the only thing the guidelines say is not to include a component chart when it charted on the main chart. If something charted on the Billboard Hot 100, that means not to include Hot 100 Airplay, Hot Digital Songs, or Hot 100 Singles Sales. You could still include Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay or Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles Sales, so long as it hadn't charted on Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks. I agree with you that people are going overboard, but it's misleading to delete an unrelated component chart and say that you are following WP:CHARTS.—Kww(talk) 03:37, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not misleading anyone, how fucking long is that list allowed to be exactly, no more than 18? I'm sorry but 3 US charts is a joke. — Realist2 03:42, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In response to not having over 18 - then why does "Womanizer" have 25 charts on it? And besides, Kww is right about what is allowed... the rest of her singles have the Dance chart CloversMallRat (talk) 03:48, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's irrelevant, siting what's happened on other articles doesn't mean anything, maybe all the others are wrong too. Yes there's 25, but that doesn't give you the right to make it 26. We already have 2 US charts on there.Realist2 03:50, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not saying the Womanizer has a reasonable chart list, or talking about one particular article. I've just noticed that reasoning in your edit summaries. But yes, 18 is the max, and chewing it up with multiple US lists isn't a good idea.—Kww(talk) 03:55, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't been misleading, I haven't been too aggressive with my interpretation of component charts, I'm just following a long standing rule that we don't have 26 charts on a table. America has it's piece of the cake with 2 charts. I'm right, everyone else is wrong, or something like that anyway... — Realist2 04:04, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lady GaGa[edit]

Hi. I did not add unverified info to Lady GaGa. I have her CD and in the liner notes it states that her full name is Stefani JOANNE Germanotta. The reference that claims that her first name being Joanne is wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jemgrrrl (talkcontribs) 04:08, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, you really did add unsourced information to the article, you just said so yourself. — Realist2 04:10, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I re-sourced an article from the UK newspaper THE TIMES, a VERY reliable source, that clearly states her name Stefani JOANNE Germanotta. Let's keep it that way, shall we.

Yep, thanks for sourcing it. — Realist2 04:36, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Careful: you really don't have a broad consensus on this one[edit]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Womanizer (song). Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. —Kww(talk) 04:20, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm ignoring all the rules today, if he wants more than 18 charts on a table he can argue for policy change. — Realist2 04:28, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If an administrator wishes to block me for "edit warring" on Womanizer (song) feel free. I'm off to bed now. If the block is for anything more than 2 days, please remove my WP:GAN nomination of "They Don't Care About Us". — Realist2 05:04, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can you help me[edit]

Hey, J.delanoy just referred me to you (I asked for help). I need a second unbiased opinion in this debate I am having here. It is about a cover of Land of Confusion by Disturbed. The debate is about user interpretation. I am debating that comments such as "the soldiers resemble SS Nazi soldiers" are user interpretation without a valid reference, and his description of the music video (this debate has revolved around the description of the music video) is full of these user interpretations without valid reference. He keeps citing the video itself as a reference, and he doesn't understand that citing it would be fine if we were describing the events of the video (as I am, but every time I change the summary to something without that interpretation, he reverts me), but we can't interpret it ourselves and claim that as a valid reference; we'd need a reliable source stating the interpretations. Anyways, I basically just want another opinion to go in there, you don't have to side with me, I just want you to go in, check it out, and make your own opinion (hopefully making a consensus we all agree on, as this user refuses to with just me). If you could do this, I would be so grateful. I have to get off the school computer as I type this, and I won't return for five hours, so if you need to contact me, just drop me a line at my talk page. Thanks in advance. --The Guy complain edits 15:39, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I'll look at it later today, I've only just got online, I need to check my watchlist and I need to have some food, but you will get a response later today, I promise. — Realist2 17:42, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

NJR[edit]

'Tis okay, take your time! CarpetCrawler (talk) 19:48, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]