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Three-pronged test for Elements of Fiction[edit]

I have drafted a revsion to WP:FICT that may address some of your concerns. I would be grateful for your views at WT:FICT#Three-pronged test for Elements of Fiction. --Gavin Collins (talk) 00:50, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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243 Ida[edit]

We're very close to being ready to start writing this article. I was wondering if you might be up for an intensive wiki-thon at some point in the next week or so where we would write the whole thing in one swell foop. I can block out about four hours for it. Wronkiew (talk) 07:40, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm extraordinarily busy in RL at the moment, don't know if I'll be able to put aside four hours but I will try to put in some work on Thursday and Friday night. Reyk YO! 09:17, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Cool. If you can make some headway on it then I'll do some writing this weekend, hopefully enough to satisfy the DYK criteria. If you don't have time right now, I understand. Wronkiew (talk) 08:19, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Also I was thinking that we could work on it in article space, as long as we can substantially finish writing it in the next five days. Wronkiew (talk) 16:41, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have my doubts if it can be finished that quickly. Reyk YO! 21:41, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Alright then, we write it on the collaboration page. I'll call dibs on sections I want to write before I start working on them, so we don't duplicate work. After we're done writing, we each move the sections that we wrote over to article space. Does this sound okay? I'm glad that the end is in sight. The article is going to be spectacular! Wronkiew (talk) 05:27, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, sounds good. I'm also very optimistic about how this article is going to turn out. Reyk YO! 06:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Congrats on the GA[edit]

Thank you! It is now, btw, listed at FAC: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Flywheel, Shyster, and Flywheel. Please comment on how you think it may be improved. Regards, Matthewedwards (talk contribs  email) 17:37, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Ida notes[edit]

If you wouldn't mind, can you leave the notes in place? It'll help later if we need to change things in response to reviews. Wronkiew (talk) 07:41, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it looks like you were right. This is going to take longer to write than I thought. I'm going to get some sleep now. Great work so far. Wronkiew (talk) 08:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Meh. My Crater section is a bit of a dog's breakfast. I struggle to write prose well, especially if the information is a lot of random facts that are hard to organize into a cohesive whole. I'll have another look at it tomorrow. Reyk YO! 08:34, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, sorry I haven't been making progress on the article recently. I have to finish up a long-neglected GA review, and then I'll be back to writing. Wronkiew (talk) 06:47, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • That's OK. I've had stuff in real life to deal with so I haven't always been around myself. Anyway, there's no deadline and I'm still very confident in how this thing's going to turn out. Reyk YO! 11:42, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I had some random thoughts about the article. Almost all the sections are done except for a bunch of the Dactyl ones. We could just write a summary of it for the DYK stage, and then flesh it out afterwards. I'm a little worried that if we pull in the Dactyl article now, we'll have to do a 5x expansion of that material as well. Also, with only two sections plus the summary left to go, we could move it into article space this weekend! The other thing is that the copy of the original article is just taking up space on the (bloated) workpage, so I think I'm going to delete it. Wronkiew (talk) 07:32, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I think we're going to need the Dactyl stuff to meet the 5x expansion. I've been keeping a little tally: the original article contains 654 words, so for a fivefold expansion the final version needs to be 3270 words or more. Currently we're at about 2250 (70% of what we need), and that's including all the Dactyl material. I do agree though about having the current article in the workpage- I've got rid of it. Reyk YO! 08:21, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How's our word count now? Wronkiew (talk) 06:05, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • We are very close: by my tally we're up to 3114/3270 (95%). I assume you're familiar with this tool? It's what I've been using, and what the DYK people use, to estimate a word count. Reyk YO! 06:13, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Move to article space on Friday? Wronkiew (talk) 05:47, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Sure. My latest count has us just barely over the 5x threshold, so we should be good to go. Reyk YO! 07:06, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Very good. I'm going to get some sleep now, but I'll start merging in my sections tomorrow. Wronkiew (talk) 07:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and nominated it at WP:GAN. Wronkiew (talk) 06:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Responses[edit]

This is Dallezam. You sent me a letter to remove a contribution - fine, no hard feelings. As a result I have temporarily removed the write up. I have a list as to why it is important to the NLL but no sources because these are rare. I honestly think that I am the only person who owns this tape.

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RFA thankspam[edit]

Thank you for weighing in at my RFA. Someday we should get back to finishing our work on Geelong Football Club! :) Somno (talk) 06:11, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Yeah, I haven't forgotten. Reyk YO! 10:45, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge discussion at Talk:Tom Tucker (Family Guy)[edit]

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DYK for Interstellar comet[edit]

Updated DYK query On March 3, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Interstellar comet, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Regarding this[edit]

Please note that sources do attest to its notability, i.e. "the story most familiar with US audiences" and that is verifiable in published books. Best, --A NobodyMy talk 22:56, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Notability (Fiction)[edit]

There seems to be some progress being made towards redrafting the guideline. Most of the arguments for a permissive guideline seem to have been countered in the sense that they have been found not to be viable. My attempts to obtain a compromise earlier this year seem to be leading towards a slightly stricter applciation of WP:V for fiction that should discourage topics which are only the subject of in universe plot summary, trivia and cruft. A recent post at WT:FICT#The rules seems to make this clear. Can you provide some cool and clear support towards drafting a compromise that is compliant with existing Wikipedia policies and guidelines? --Gavin Collins (talk) 19:32, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Notablility (populated places)[edit]

I would like to draw your attention to this discussion. OrangeDog (talkedits) 14:41, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are invited to revisit the article. I know you may yourself have had trouble with sources for the title... but I was just determined enough to dig until I found the gold. The article is now sourced and includes some nice reviews. Thanks. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 05:33, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I have withdrawn my objection. Reyk YO! 05:44, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Fair enough, and I appreciate the good faith. I will point out that Kirkus Reviews is even notable enough to have their own article on wiki. Best regards, Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 05:55, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • Well, you learn something new every day. I will remember that if it comes up again. Reyk YO! 05:57, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ranga Ediriwickrama[edit]

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DYK for 243 Ida[edit]

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Way to go! I'm sad I missed seeing it on the front page. Now that word count is no longer an issue, I deleted one of your sections. Wronkiew (talk) 05:34, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ready for peer review? Wronkiew (talk) 16:29, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Ready when you are. :) Reyk YO! 12:28, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Take Care[edit]

Please don't use Science Apologist's talk page to have long and involved discussions with users that are not SA. This has caused problems in the past. Thanks. Hipocrite (talk) 12:49, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Huh? I made one comment. Reyk YO! 21:49, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


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Titan[edit]

Sorry about that. I'm in the middle of a bit of an edit war. Wish I could resolve it peacefully. Serendipodous 21:25, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry also- I am the other party. I think we will resolve this happily. Fotaun (talk) 21:54, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Not a problem. Happy editing. Reyk YO! 22:02, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pixelface[edit]

Hi, I was offline yesterday; a local holiday. I'm all for sorting this issue. Cheers, Jack Merridew 02:41, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, done. Reyk YO! 04:03, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I just commented there. I'll also let Cas and Moreschi know. Cheers, Jack Merridew 04:14, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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If you get a chance...[edit]

I've posted a question about your comments here [1]. Thanks! Hobit (talk) 04:28, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, could you head back to it and see if the sources provided on the talk page are sufficient to address the issues with WP:N? Thanks! Hobit (talk) 14:17, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

More Ida[edit]

Now that the peer review is winding down, I think it's time to move towards FAC. I'm mercilessly copyediting the article, but I haven't gotten very far. Also, I have nagging concerns about two sentences:

  • "Ida's spin axis coincides with its maximum moment of inertia, if its density is assumed to be even throughout." I'm not entirely sure what this means, and it's very close to the source.
    • I'll try to think of a clearer wording for this. Reyk YO! 05:50, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      Your reworded version is much clearer. Nice work! Wronkiew (talk) 06:09, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Dactyl's surface was initially thought to be composed of equal parts clinopyroxene and the silicate minerals olivine and orthopyroxene but later studies indicate that the evidence for clinopyroxene is 'weak'." The wording in this one is also kind of close to the source, but my main concern is that it doesn't really say anything about Dactyl, except that we don't know what it's made of. I had originally included this in the source notes to prevent us from including wrong information, and had not intended for it to be mentioned in the article.
    • I thought it was intended as an example of one of the differences between Ida and Dactyl, but on rereading it I think you're probably right that it isn't necessary. I'll head over now and take it out. Reyk YO! 05:50, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have any remaining concerns? Wronkiew (talk) 06:42, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

    • I think we've addressed all the concerns at the Peer Review, so I agree we should start moving it along to FAC. Reyk YO! 06:23, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      I'm not sure what we should do about moving the exploration section. My inclination is to wait and see what happens at FAC. Other then that, I still need to finish copyediting. I'll try to get that done this weekend. Might be time to close the peer review. Wronkiew (talk) 06:28, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      I noticed a few American/British spelling inconsistencies in the article while I was re-reading it. Do you want to go through and fix any words I may have, in my Yankee arrogance, misspelled? Wronkiew (talk) 07:12, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ready? Wronkiew (talk) 00:53, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Go for it! Reyk YO! 01:12, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, add your statement to Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/243 Ida/archive1. Wronkiew (talk) 01:36, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Now I think I'll give a heads up to the people who have reviewed it at GA or Peer Review. Reyk YO! 01:47, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RFA thanks[edit]

My RFA passed today at 61/5/4. Thanks for participating in my RFA. I appreciate all the comments I received and will endeavor to justify the trust the WP community has placed in me. Have a nice day. :-) AdjustShift (talk) 21:06, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. Reyk YO! 21:07, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Easter![edit]

I don't know how well this message will be received as I know you and I have had been on the opposite sides of various discussions and issues, but you know I really don't want to view anyone as an actual opponent or enemy. I think of a lot of these things, even when heated as polite or academic disagreements and as it is a holiday, well, on behalf of the Kindness campaign, I just wanted to wish my fellow Wikipedians a Happy Easter! Maybe somewhere along the way we'll even find somewhere to agree and help each other out!  :) Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 06:55, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I think it's fair to say we don't see eye to eye on a great many things. Still, no hard feelings (though I'm pretty certain I'll disagree with you about things in the future) and have a good holiday. Reyk YO! 07:04, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, you too! Regards, --A NobodyMy talk 07:12, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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