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Your edit to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/GreenMeansGo

Did you intend to remove my reaffirmed support from the page? If you did, may I ask why? Best, OhKayeSierra (talk) 14:41, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

@OhKayeSierra: Yikes! Very bizarre that I didn't even get an edit conflict error. Sorry about that. Thanks for fixing it (and also sorry to Javert2113, whose comment I somehow removed at the same time, and thanks to Pawnkingthree for fixing that one). — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:48, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
No worries! I thought that it might have been a mistake, but I wanted to be sure. Stranger things have happened on this site. OhKayeSierra (talk) 14:50, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Yes, we even have an article about it, though I haven't seen it yet. :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:51, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Eh, things happen. — Javert2113 (talk) 15:00, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

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Sorry that you feel like I was misrepresenting you: that wasn’t the intent. I simply disagree with your view that sourcing is required throughout N separate from the GNG, which I suspect is why we were talking past each other. FWIW, I find the ARS comparison a bit funny, as they are the main reason I hate the GNG and want to move as far as possible away from it. My point is that a merit-based system would work so long as WP:V is met. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:19, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

@TonyBallioni: Thanks for the message. While you were leaving it, I was removing my last comment there, which doesn't really further the discussion. I don't know how you can possibly read WP:N that way, without skipping over the nutshell and several of the sections, but hey,(can't help myself) we can resume the discussion when it actually matters. :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 18:23, 1 May 2018 (UTC)


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Any input?

Hey, didn't know if this would be something you'd be interested in or not: Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#Student_welcome. (This is Shalor, btw) ReaderofthePack (｡◕‿◕｡) 20:55, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

@ReaderofthePack: I agree it needs updating. It has for quite some time, really. Wiki Ed tends to prefer the community edit the education program pages that aren't only relevant to the US/Canada, so I've not felt comfortable doing so. I'd be happy to help on the talk page if someone else wants to rework it, though. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 19:39, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

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Data base Horizon pleins textes

I dont understand why you reverted my edit. I was mentionning as an academic database that is also a repository known world wide of a French research institute called IRD-Institut de recherche pour le développement You can verify the existence of the database. http://horizon.documentation.ird.fr/ I am not knowledgeable enough to revert your revert. Rigas — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rigas (talk • contribs) 19:20, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

@Rigas: Hi there. Thanks for adding to Wikipedia. Most lists on Wikipedia do not aim to be exhaustive, including everything that exists. There are some examples, but they're usually things like "list of states in the United States", "discography of the Rolling Stones," "list of prime ministers of australia," etc. -- lists that can definitively include everything in a set rather than examples of a type. The way we typically restrict inclusion is to include only notable examples. "Notable" is Wikipedia jargon (see WP:N) for a threshold of coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject that would justify having an encyclopedia article on that subject. For simplicity, many lists just say "only include examples with Wikipedia articles" (with the presumption that the article shows notability via its citations, and that if it does not the article will be deleted). That's why I removed what you added here. Note that all the rest of the databases/search engines in that list are blue links, pointing to a Wikipedia article. You may want to consider writing the article about it if it is a notable example. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 19:36, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

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May 23: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

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Is there...

...a tutorial on using AWB? I saw you were a user and it has been very difficult for me to figure out how to use it. Is there a youtube video or something? Best Regards, Barbara ✐  ✉ 23:34, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

@Barbara (WVS): I'm not sure about a tutorial, but there is a user manual.
I remember being a little overwhelmed by it myself -- it's a surprisingly powerful tool. If there's something specific you want to use it for, I may be able to help with steps. That's presuming nothing major has changed in the last few years (I used it a lot a few years ago, but not much since).
Once you get permission to use it, install it, and log in, the first step is to make a list of articles in the bottom-left panel. I usually just use my user contributions, but you could use anything. Use the "source" drop-down. One of the most common people use is a category. The "recurse" options are how many subdirectories to look in. "Category" is just that category. "Category (recurse 1 level)" is that category and its subcategories. If you select "Category (recurse user defined levels)" it will prompt you for a number. Each number adds all of the subdirectories of all of the subdirectories (adds up quickly). For the sake of example, let's try Category:American women film producers with recurse 1 level. That yields a list of 191 pages.
Once you have a list, click "filter". Select "sort alphabetically" and "remove duplicates". Make sure nothing is checked in the first two columns aside from "Main/Article" (AWB works in any namespace, but you should get used to articles before messing with talk pages IMO). Then click "apply". That brings the list down to 186 pages for me.
Next step are those tabs in the bottom-middle panel.
Options tab: Auto changes are a big reason people use AWB. I tend to keep auto tag, apply general fixes, and unicodify whole page checked. I also check regex typo fixing. Find and replace is powerful, and I have a bunch of things that I keep stored in there (remember to save your settings btw), but I'd skip it while you're learning the program.
To keep it simple, I'd skip the "more" tab. In the "disambig" tab, again, to keep it simple at first I'd turn off "enable disambiguation".
"Skip" tab: the only things I have checked here are to skip if the "page is in use", "no changes are made", "only whitespace", "only casing", "only minor genfixes". A pet peeve for a lot of people is AWB use to make changes that don't really do anything. If you don't pay attention to what it's doing, it'll make an edit just to remove an extra space at the end of a paragraph (i.e. a space that nobody can see because there's no text after it) and all sorts of other pointless edits. If you're making a bunch of other edits that are more substantial, then it doesn't hurt to do that too, but you want to make sure there's some noticeable improvement. "genfixes" are those sorts of minor details. It'll reorder references, add or remove line breaks, make formatting changes, etc. of various significance. I automatically skip it if it only changes whitespace, only changes casing (this isn't just article text but templates, etc. casing that nobody can see unless you edit the page), and only minor genfixes.
Finally, under the start tab, you can change the edit summary you use, and mark it as a minor edit, which is a good idea. When you're ready, click "start".
Once you start, it'll show you a diff of the proposed changes. It doesn't save automatically. You need to decide whether to "skip" or "save" in that start panel. If it looks like a useful edit, save it. If it doesn't look useful, skip it. If it's partially useful, you can either save and then go back manually, or you can use the bottom-right "edit box" to edit manually through AWB. The different tabs of that panel show you different aspects of what it has noticed and/or wants to change about that page in particular.
If you used my example category above, Category:American women film producers, the first one to pop up is probably Angela Robinson, where AWB wants to change "award winning" to "award-winning". That seems like a useful enough change to me, so I'd save it (I'm skipping for now so you can use that as an example if you want). It also noticed multiple wikilinks (look in the start tab towards the bottom). Since each link should only be linked in its first instance, you can remove the others (as with anything AWB-related, though, it requires some care, since it's ok to link to something more than once if doing so in the lead, caption, infobox, tables, lists, etc.).
The next one is Adriadne Getty. It wants to make several changes. Whether changing "September 30th" to "September 30" is a significant change is debatable, but it also moves a comma from after to before a reference, which is useful, so I'd save that one too.
And so on. This is perhaps more than you asked for. Let me know if it's not the sort of help you were looking for. :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:41, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
Thank you so much! You put in a lot of time to explain this to me and you didn't have to do it. You cut right through the parts I didn't understand in the users manual. Thank you. Aren't you supposed be studying or writing or something? Best Regards, Barbara ✐  ✉ 19:07, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Dark purple Trichoglottis

Sorry for the late response. I think it's worth renominating after the fix. Tomer T (talk) 12:24, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

@Tomer T: Thanks. Not sure if I'll renominate sooner or later, but at some point. :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:42, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Possible AfD

Hello. I see you posted the AfD for Ideological bias on Wikipedia and I wonder whether you think that this article, Metropolitan bias, should also be deleted. To me it looks like POV OR cobbled together with some SYNTH misappropriation of unrelated sources that are not addressing the topic stated in the lede. What do you think? SPECIFICO talk 13:41, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

@SPECIFICO: I'm not sure. It does seem like it pulls together a few different topics nominally related to "urban areas are different from rural areas". Would probably require some additional research before I felt comfortable opining in any "official" capacity. To the extent it's about media bias, it would likely make a sensible addition to the media bias article. It's the media bias plus the other elements of the article that makes it possibly problematic in pulling together various things that are just, again, differences in statistics, coverage, etc. of urban vs. rural areas. Not sure. I'll watch the article, but won't be nominating it for deletion. I'd want to do more research first. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 15:08, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. I commented on the WP bias AfD talk page with some of my concern. I think it's cherrypicking statements about "bias" in diverse meanings to support a narrative of political or ideological bias. I started to do an AfD but got confused with all the templates and gave up. SPECIFICO talk 15:43, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
@SPECIFICO: FYI WP:TW makes XfD really really easy. Just use the XfD tab, type in the reason, and it takes care of the rest. That's not an endorsement of deletion of this page, necessarily, but technical reasons shouldn't be cause not to. :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 16:01, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for that. SPECIFICO talk 16:25, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

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Book Expo

The Photographer's Barnstar
Thank you for braving the crowds at Javits/BookCon to take author photos for Wikimedia Commons! The pictures of John Kerry and Sally Fields are my favorites. Jaldous1 (talk) 14:50, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
@Jaldous1: Thanks! Just finished uploading/adding the last batch of them. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 17:08, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Invitation to join WP:RRTF

Hello, Rhododendrites! I'd like to invite you to join the Rick Riordan Task Force (formerly the "Percy Jackson" Task Force) of WikiProject Novels. We work to improve articles related to Rick Riordan and his books. We appreciated the new image and are always looking for new supporters. Even if you're only tangentially interested, look us up! We have very few requirements. Please, check out our project page or contact me to learn more! -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 00:17, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
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@2ReinreB2: Thanks for the invite, and I'm glad you you found the pic useful. I confess I've not read anything by Riordan, though. :) I'm familiar enough with his work that he was on my shortlist of people I wanted to get a picture of at the BookExpo this past weekend (other pics here), but a task force about his work is not a particularly good fit for me. :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 00:23, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
I understand, thanks for replying. We've been trying to branch out and recruit members with interests outside the books (technical editors, copyeditors, etc.) but with very little success. I appreciate you taking the time to read our message! -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 00:36, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

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29 June 2018

Information icon Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions at Rape in Germany. Although this may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is known as "edit warring" and is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, as it often creates animosity between editors. Instead of reverting, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to be blocked from editing Wikipedia. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, and violating the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a block.

Please observe you have reverted the same content twice already in less than 24 hours, which, should you persist, could lead to the consequences outlined on the previous paragraph.

Thank you. — XavierItzm (talk) 20:27, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Sigh. Context for posterity. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 20:42, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

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A beer for you!

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