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A cupcake for you!

A sugary confection for no reason whatsoever! Enwebb (talk) 16:15, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
@Enwebb: and it's not even a demo! Thanks — Rhododendrites talk \\ 16:45, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
You don't even have to revert :) Hope you had a good day yesterday. Enwebb (talk) 17:08, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

You were right

You nailed this one, and I sensed you were right. Hindsight - 20-20. Atsme Talk 📧 16:55, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

@Atsme: Hmmm. What did I miss? — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:48, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Oops. Should've just looked for a sec first. I see. Apparently I have some catching up to do at the TPUSA talk page... (or perhaps not -- it's nice out today...). :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:49, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
Thank you! Guettarda (talk) 20:09, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

WikiCup 2020 July newsletter

The third round of the 2020 WikiCup has now come to an end. The 16 users who made it into the fourth round each had at least 353 points (compared to 68 in 2019). It was a highly competitive round, and a number of contestants were eliminated who would have moved on in earlier years. Our top scorers in round 3 were:

  • New York (state) Epicgenius, with one featured article, 28 good articles and 17 DYKs, amassing 1836 points
  • Botswana The Rambling Man , with 1672 points gained from four featured articles and seventeen good articles, plus reviews of a large number of FACs and GAs
  • England Gog the Mild, a first time contestant, with 1540 points, a tally built largely on 4 featured articles and related bonus points.

Between them, contestants managed 14 featured articles, 9 featured lists, 3 featured pictures, 152 good articles, 136 DYK entries, 55 ITN entries, 65 featured article candidate reviews and 221 good article reviews. Additionally, Denmark MPJ-DK added 3 items to featured topics and 44 to good topics. Over the course of the competition, contestants have completed 710 good article reviews, in comparison to 387 good articles submitted for review and promoted. These large numbers are probably linked to a GAN backlog drive in April and May, and the changed patterns of editing during the COVID-19 pandemic. As we enter the fourth round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met. Please also remember that all submissions must meet core Wikipedia policies, regardless of the review process.

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I have half a mind of semi-protecting this talk page, until that little storm blows over. I haven't yet looked in the history to see if any flagrant BLP violations were committed. You have any thoughts on it? Drmies (talk) 01:11, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

@Drmies: I haven't been watching the article. I've seen Bnguyen1114 around for the past several months. Mainly when we had a minor disagreement over what kinds of endorsements to add to lists of endorsements of democratic candidates. He was adding a lot ... to several of the candidates' lists, as I recall (i.e. not just Harris). I do not have the impression that this is someone who signed up just to promote Harris. That's not to say I've vetted his edits and find them to have no problems; it means I have no reason to believe they're WP:NOTHERE and thus should be extended the same good faith we would anyone else who hasn't been mentioned in the media today. That was really my only point in posting to the talk page. If people want to present evidence that some policy has been violated, or that he should be topic banned from Kamala Harris, or whatever else, people can make that case through the appropriate fora. But I'm seeing unpleasant stuff on Twitter supplemented by interrogation/insinuation on the article talk page, where it just shouldn't be. I'd like for us to be particularly sensitive about how off-wiki [criticism] of someone's edits affects that person, and be sure we use proper channels... because it means they're already having an unpleasant time elsewhere so we should really strive for that AGF thing we try to do. What the best thing to do on the talk page is? I don't know. Semi-protect may help, but I'd prefer to just see personal comments removed/hatted and redirected to ANI/COIN/whatever. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 01:55, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
After I left this I saw that a comment had indeed been scrubbed; there's all kinds of related material popping up now, some of which I've scrubbed as well. I'm not so much concerned with Bnguyen, unless they're being doxxed or unjustly criticized of course, but--as usually happens--new and "new" editors are popping up like, well, I don't know, things that pop up rapidly. Drmies (talk) 02:09, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Editing news 2020 #3

On 16 March 2020, the 50 millionth edit was made using the visual editor on desktop.

Seven years ago this week, the Editing team made the visual editor available by default to all logged-in editors using the desktop site at the English Wikipedia. Here's what happened since its introduction:

  • The 50 millionth edit using the visual editor on desktop was made this year. More than 10 million edits have been made here at the English Wikipedia.
  • More than 2 million new articles have been created in the visual editor. More than 600,000 of these new articles were created during 2019.
  • Almost 5 million edits on the mobile site have been made with the visual editor. Most of these edits have been made since the Editing team started improving the mobile visual editor in 2018.
  • The proportion of all edits made using the visual editor has been increasing every year.
  • Editors have made more than 7 million edits in the 2017 wikitext editor, including starting 600,000 new articles in it. The 2017 wikitext editor is VisualEditor's built-in wikitext mode. You can enable it in your preferences.
  • On 17 November 2019, the first edit from outer space was made in the mobile visual editor.
  • In 2019, 35% of the edits by newcomers, and half of their first edits, were made using the visual editor. This percentage has been increasing every year since the tool became available.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 02:06, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Fictional books cited by Steiner's Rhinogradentia

Hm, the whole article is about fictional stuff. Why is your opinion of what its worth including better than mine?
Some readers of the book may think that those additional books exist,and waste time looking for them. So that section could serve toprevent that. --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 15:02, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

@Jorge Stolfi: Other than the most basic facts about a subject, which can be sourced to the subject itself, we need a reason to include something. That's especially true for whole blocks of trivia. I will say that it is indeed a strange article on a strange book that doesn't quite fit our models for writing about fiction nor writing about biology (of course) in terms of "basic facts". So I tried to base it mostly on what secondary sources mention, knowing that a few fundamentals could be included based just on the work itself as per under e.g. MOS:PLOT/WP:PRIMARY. But you've added is just a block of trivia with no sources. Yes, it's fictional stuff. It uses some fake places and real places, some fake people and real people, some fake sources and real sources. It's WP:INDISCRIMINATE trivia to just pick which one you think is most interesting/relevant and include those irrespective of sourcing. You didn't even include all of the fake references.
Ultimately, it's not a matter of "I add what I think is useful/funny, and you add what you think is funny/useful"; it's just "for anything but the basics, find a reliable secondary source." If you would like to argue that a partial list of fictional references is so fundamental to the article that it merits inclusion without sources, I suppose that's a possible approach but wouldn't fit within any interpretation of our policies and guidelines I've ever seen. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 15:32, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
@Rhododendrites: I will not fight this further, but obviously an article about a book does not need any secndary sources for a claim about the contents of the book (as opposed to claims about external facts that the book makes). The most authoritative (and most easily available) source for "Hamlet dies at the end of Hamlet" is of course Hamlet itself.
On a higher level, please keep in mind that all the "WP:" and "MOS:" pages are just the opinions of a handful of editors who like writing rules for other editors. Methinks that Wikipedia would be instantly and hugely better if some accident wiped out the entire "Wikipedia:" namespace and all its backups.
All the best, --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 16:49, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Sidestepping most of this to just point out that you're talking about verifiability. Yes, the book is a reliable source for what the book says. What I'm talking about is about the process of determining what to include, not whether it exists in the book. There needs to be a reason for including this part of the book but not that part without just relying on the whims and preferences of Wikipedia editors. Wikipedia turns to secondary sources for determining that. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 16:56, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Well, I dispute that. A wikipedia article must strike a balance between completeness and readability, but it is the editors' judgement that should decide what to include. In an article about the Hamlet play, the plot summary should mention the death of Ophelia, just because it is central to the plot -- irrespective of whether there are external sources that mention that detail.
Unlike printed sources, Wikipedia's "paper" is almost free; and sectioning can be used to achieve unlimited depth while keeping the article readable for the more casual readers.--Jorge Stolfi (talk) 17:35, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Washington Examiner

I agreed with all of your suggestions and changes to the Washington Examiner article. One small thing though: The article says that an Examiner editor, Jim Nicosia, was fired from his job, citing the information to CNN, and laying out the reasons for his firings. For reasons of fairness, I thought it was important to include a sentence as to his own explanation as to why he was fired. In all media, newspaper articles, wire service copy, online journalism, encyclopedias, it is most often required to include a comment for explanation by the person being accused of something to complain. I am not sure of Wikipedia's standards, but assume its standards are like anyone else'-- which to include a single sentence at least allowing the person to take issue with the allegations of wrongdoing already included in the article. Moreover, his explanation appears even plausible. By adding this information, nobody is endorsing it. The reader is told all sides of the story and thus can choose for themselves, or at a minimum, at least know both sides. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cathradgenations (talkcontribs) 17:11, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

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Gaillardia pulchella

Gaillardia pulchella is a North American species of short-lived perennial or annual flowering plant in the sunflower family, Asteraceae. It is often known as the Indian blanketflower, perhaps because of the resemblance of the inflorescence to the brightly patterned blankets made by Native Americans. It is a drought-tolerant plant native to northern Mexico and the southern United States, often carpeting fields and the sides of highways for miles in the summer and fall. These G. pulchella blooms were photographed in Aspen, Colorado.

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length

I' know my p. is too long, but I'm trying to figure out why some people find it actually unreadable--I just now loaded it from an current model iphone, which i had never done before, and it worked instantaneously; I loaded it from a 11 year old imac with 4 GB using Chrome with no other window open, and it also worked immediately . I have nothing older to test it with. . I know it gives problems with multiple windows, but what usually stops my machine (using Safari with 16 GB) is when there are multiple windows and one or two of them has a continually reloaded content. DGG ( talk ) 06:00, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

@DGG: My computer is less than a year old, but to be fair, when it crashed the other day I had upwards of a hundred tabs open plus Lightroom. Still, the only pages across Wikipedia I've ever had trouble with are yours and EEng's. It doesn't crash every time, though. Still, seems less ideal. On my phone, very long pages and/or pages with lots of javascript can load kind of slowly because I use desktop view (never a big fan of the mobile site), so appreciate archiving there, too, but it doesn't crash at least. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 15:14, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
And here I thought I was being ridiculous for customarily working with 50 open windows ! As a guide to my buying my next machine how much RAM do you have. I am thinking of going to 64 rather than 32. But yes, I need to archive. The problem is that what I really need to to reorganize into essays, which is harder. DGG ( talk ) 16:25, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

The Philosophy Barnstar
Whenever I see your signature at the Village Pump or elsewhere, I've come to expect a well-reasoned point, useful insight, or innovative proposal; you are one of the most clear-sighted thinkers on the project. Have you thought about acquiring a mop? {{u|Sdkb}}talk 01:52, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
@Sdkb: Thanks for this. Very kind. The idea of a mop comes up from time to time, but for a number of reasons it's not that appealing to me. Maybe someday. :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 15:10, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
September 26, 12:30pm: Met Fashion Virtual Edit Meet-up

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Userboxes

D'ye know who the admin they're claiming left because of the anti-gay-rights userboxes being removed is? I'd like to see what the situation was. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.5% of all FPs 06:12, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Rhododendrites, I hope you don't mind this intervention. @Adam Cuerden:, the admin is Ad Orientem (intentionally not pinging them out of respect for their intention to retire). --Dps04 (talk) 06:16, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
...Alright. Good to know, thank you, Dps04 Given the whole page is basically people attacking me for having made that MFD, I think it's best I say as little as possible. Even though I really, really want to. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.5% of all FPs 07:18, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

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