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Thanks for the explanation about the purpose of the page. But what kind of edits are permitted to be made to the essay? To the Talk page? What is considered acceptable and what is not? Is it anything goes because it's "humor"? I stumbled on this (wish I hadn't) very indirectly and am now trying to, uh, educate myself.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:29, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

@Bbb23: I don't think there are clear rules, but I'm no expert on humor-related pages. I do get the sense that most of them are edited pretty freely. Personally, I tend to regard edits to projectspace pages not in terms of how serious they are but how often they're cited. BEANS may be humor, but it's cited pretty regularly in "serious" discussions. Any of them should be editable, but the most cited ones are probably more likely to get reverted pending discussion. Meh. Nonzero effort is typically more effort than I'm interested to spend on humor pages. :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:51, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
You sure you're not thinking about WP:BEANS?--Bbb23 (talk) 14:55, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
I am, and see the subpage as part of that page (it was created not long after WP:BEANS was). I say do whatever editing you want to it and see what happens. :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:56, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
I saw the odd relationship, but they are two separate essays. BEANS has a real purpose and is cited often (e.g., by me at SPI), but the other is at best garbage (IMO). I don't know what page you mean me to edit to see what happens, so I can't try what you suggest.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:41, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Border patrol

I don't know what to do about this - currently the alien vs. migrant dispute. The posters, like Trump who they admire, are not interested in facts. Any suggestion? deisenbe (talk) 18:47, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for following up. I responded on the talk page. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:24, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

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Seeking help with edit request for Manhattan West

Hi Rhododendrites. I am Marlee, and I found your name listed as a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject New York City. Therefore, I thought you might be interested in an edit request I recently posted for the "Site and structures" section of Talk:Manhattan West. I am asking for your help to implement the edit request, which adds information and improves the overall content of that section. Whether you implement all or part of the request, I will be grateful. Thanks so much. Marlee Neff for Brookfield Properties (talk) 14:21, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

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Close paraphrasing wiki-essay and cases

Hi, I wasn't randomly select you for the input on wiki-policy/guideline, that would defeat the purpose, I am going to ask the same all the major contributors to wiki-essay Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing, and since you are the second largest contributor of the text there, I was wondering if you are still interested in matters covered in the essay, and if you are, would you be interested in looking at one interesting case - if you would, I would then present you with the specifics.--౪ Santa ౪99° 19:02, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

@Santasa99: Thanks for the message. I am not a big contributor to that page. It may appear that way, but it's just because of this edit reverting vandalism. :) Are you just looking for input about whether a particular edit/editor has issues with close paraphrasing? If so, you may want to leave a message at Wikipedia:Copyright problems. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 19:05, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
Great idea, thanks, it didn't occur to me to look up for Wikipedia:Copyright problems. I will certainly try there. (Yeah, I used page stats tool, and looked for the largest byte value.) Thanks for the speedy reply and the suggestion.--౪ Santa ౪99° 19:12, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

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Wanted to share our MetAfrofuturist report of new and improved articles related to the exhibition, and invite you to share at the Black Lunch Table office hours at 12pm Eastern on Sunday!

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As far as I'm concerned

The Original Barnstar
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DYK nomination of 2020-22 book banning in the United States

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I will allow another editor to review the article. I did enjoy the subject. Bruxton (talk) 20:23, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello, I went back to the DYK nomination and gave the article a tick. I think it is an important subject: thank you for writing the article. Also sorry for the delay. Bruxton (talk) 14:57, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

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Variable standards on businesses

Hi, thank you for your perfectly reasonable request for a link. My AfD for a New York icecream shop is Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mikey_Likes_It_Ice_Cream. I might be completely wrong about this one; there are three shops in existence now, I believe, so it might qualify as a notable chain. I didn't like the standard of references; some are in what I would consider good sources, but they turn out to be interviews, or filler-stuff, the sort of human-interest that gets stuck in a vacant place on a low-news day, or they're more about some celebrity who's decided to visit the ice-cream shop than the shop (raising the question of whether this makes the shop notable because a celebrity likes it, or whether that's a bit too close to inherited notability). I would really like to see one or two good references that are not interviews, that are in-depth, independent and that don't look as though they were generated by Microsoft's PR department (there seems to have been a mutually-beneficial arrangement between Microsoft and Mikey's ice-cream, but whether it's notable I'm not sure; Microsoft do a lot of advertising, as you'd expect from any such company). I am giving you the link here because I don't want to encourage spurious other-stuff-exists arguments in the petzone AfD. But I do feel that we tend to be more sympathetic to businesses in the US or UK than businesses in the middle east. On a related note, we accept an article on a place in the US provided there is some evidence that someone once lived there, even if it's a mere address in an ancient newspaper - but we reject articles on complete new housing estates in other parts of the world because we're suspicious that they sound as though they're advertising the developer - even though they are tangibly places where thousands of people live. It's a difficult one to get right. I also don't want to solicit people to visit Mikey's AfD with any particular viewpoint; it's just a discussion, anyone's welcome, and I'm happy to be proven wrong. Elemimele (talk) 21:59, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

@Elemimele: Thanks for the message. Mikey Likes It looks like a tough call. I'd have to dig in a bit more, but what you're talking about seems like one element of Wikipedia's systemic bias. I don't think it's that people aren't sympathetic or that they don't want more articles about topics from outside North America/Europe, but (a) not everywhere has the publishing customs and infrastructure to generate many of what Wikipedia considers "reliable sources", and (b) even when they do, there aren't enough people here who know the language and are familiar with the sources. We might be able to determine what the one or two best sources are for a region, but have a hard time differentiating the rest of the spectrum from good to terrible. Mikey Likes It is in one of the largest media markets in the world, with dozens of papers/sites we consider reliable for food and business reporting. Most of the bigger publications in NYC also follow some strict journalistic standards when it comes to promotional content (certainly not all, though). That doesn't mean I think it's notable (I don't know). The last thing is: business articles are a category of article at AfD that does depend on who shows up to the discussion, because several people at AfD are very sensitive to what they perceive as promotion, and paint "promotional content" with a broad brush. Most of the time I appreciate this, but it's frustrating sometimes. It typically requires detailed source evaluation to push back in those cases when someone wants to push back. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:19, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
@Rhododendrites: I think you've hit the nail on the head. It's not deliberate, but it's very hard for us in New York or London (I'm not quite in London, but I can see through London eyes fairly easily) to look at something like the Mikey Likes it ice-cream thing and say "that's not promotional, I know what promotional looks like in London, and that one isn't, it's just that it's in a place that is home to a lot of important people and a lot of big news businesses, so people will have heard of it, and it's made a genuine splash" - But I can't look through Kuwaiti eyes and recognise whether a newspaper there, writing about an ice-cream chain there, is merely promotional fluff or a genuine indication of notability. And as you say, many in WP err on the side of caution when it comes to businesses. I've been quite frustrated by a few AfDs that have ended up deleting major housing projects in the middle east, which amount to complete new city suburbs housing tens of thousands of people, because most of the sources are accounts of the funding being granted to produce the things, the builders being proud to have delivered only 3 years late, or minor news articles about crimes that have been committed by the residents. This contrasts oddly with all the AfDs for a railway siding in Iowa, which end with "keep" because someone's tracked down a local newspaper from 100 years ago that says someone ran over a chicken that belonged to Mrs Smith of that address (and therefore it's an inhabited place, and thus notable, even if nothing happened there beyond one squashed chicken). It's not a deliberate bias, but it's hard to know what to do about it! I'm not going to argue the Mikey one as I don't care much either way; it's not my expertise and if New Yorkers say it's notable, then

so be it. AfD is for discussion, and if we can't discuss and accept the conclusion, what's the point? Elemimele (talk) 14:52, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

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Interesting that there is actually a note already at the bottom of that section saying it's good practice to leave a note at the discussion. I've proposed strengthening the statement. valereee (talk) 18:07, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. Going to leave a comment there. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 18:09, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

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Nicely done

I wanted to complement this edit [1]. It's a great (and sadly too uncommon) example of respecting the logic of a person even while disagreeing with the outcome. We would probably have far fewer embittered disagreements if more people followed that lead. Springee (talk) 20:39, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

WikiCup 2022 March newsletter

And so ends the first round of the WikiCup. Last year anyone who scored more than zero points moved on to Round 2, but this was not the case this year, and a score of 13 or more was required to proceed. The top scorers in Round 1 were:

  • New York (state) Epicgenius, a finalist last year, who led the field with 1906 points, gained from 32 GAs and 19 DYKs, all on the topic of New York buildings.
  • Christmas Island AryKun, new to the contest, was second with 1588 points, having achieved 2 FAs, 11 GAs and various other submissions, mostly on the subject of birds.
  • Kingdom of Scotland Bloom6132, a WikiCup veteran, was in third place with 682 points, garnered from 51 In the news items and several DYKs.
  • Philadelphia GhostRiver was close behind with 679 points, gained from achieving 12 GAs, mostly on ice hockey players, and 35 GARs.
  • United Nations Kavyansh.Singh was in fifth place with 551 points, with an FA, a FL, and many reviews.
  • SounderBruce was next with 454 points, gained from an FA and various other submissions, mostly on United States highways.
  • United Nations Ktin, another WikiCup veteran, was in seventh place with 412 points, mostly gained from In the news items.

These contestants, like all the others who qualified for Round 2, now have to start scoring points again from scratch. Between them, contestants completed reviews of a large number of good articles as the contest ran concurrently with a GAN backlog drive. Well done all! To qualify for Round 3, contestants will need to finish Round 2 among the top thirty-two participants.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of Round 1 but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Anything that should have been claimed for in Round 1 is no longer eligible for points. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

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WikiCup 2022 March newsletter

And so ends the first round of the WikiCup. Last year anyone who scored more than zero points moved on to Round 2, but this was not the case this year, and a score of 13 or more was required to proceed. The top scorers in Round 1 were:

  • New York (state) Epicgenius, a finalist last year, who led the field with 1906 points, gained from 32 GAs and 19 DYKs, all on the topic of New York buildings.
  • Christmas Island AryKun, new to the contest, was second with 1588 points, having achieved 2 FAs, 11 GAs and various other submissions, mostly on the subject of birds.
  • Kingdom of Scotland Bloom6132, a WikiCup veteran, was in third place with 682 points, garnered from 51 In the news items and several DYKs.
  • Philadelphia GhostRiver was close behind with 679 points, gained from achieving 12 GAs, mostly on ice hockey players, and 35 GARs.
  • United Nations Kavyansh.Singh was in fifth place with 551 points, with an FA, a FL, and many reviews.
  • SounderBruce was next with 454 points, gained from an FA and various other submissions, mostly on United States highways.
  • United Nations Ktin, another WikiCup veteran, was in seventh place with 412 points, mostly gained from In the news items.

These contestants, like all the others who qualified for Round 2, now have to start scoring points again from scratch. Between them, contestants completed reviews of a large number of good articles as the contest ran concurrently with a GAN backlog drive. Well done all! To qualify for Round 3, contestants will need to finish Round 2 among the top thirty-two participants.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of Round 1 but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Anything that should have been claimed for in Round 1 is no longer eligible for points. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:55, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

A nod of appreciation

Connoisseur of Fine Imagery
I just submitted my first featured picture candidate and noticed you nominated one of my photos in the past, Thank you for doing that. I really appreciate the recognition, even if it didn't get the votes. Needsmoreritalin (talk) 23:09, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
@Needsmoreritalin: No problem. I should say there are two Featured Picture processes. One is here on Wikipedia; the other is over on Wikimedia Commons. It's a sister site to Wikipedia -- it's where all the images are hosted and also serves as the world's largest free media resource. The Commons FP process gets a lot more participation, and involves more photographers. I used to participate in both, but found the chronic lack of participation at the process here too frustrating (and the idiosyncratic opinions about the relationship between images and articles). Commons just focuses on the photo, typically. Not to dissuade you from nominating here -- you should -- but you may also want to nominate there. :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 23:22, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
@Rhododendrites: Thanks for the advice. I may try that. To be honest, I was in a photo contest one time, and I didn't like what it turned me into. I came in second, and I decided I can't be competitive with my photos, so I post some on Wikipedia, and I sell some for charity, and its made it fun and not stressful. I saw some of your images too, and they are wonderful. Needsmoreritalin talk \\ 01:54 4 March 2022 (UTC)

DYK for 2020–22 book banning in the United States

On 7 March 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 2020–22 book banning in the United States, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a spokesperson for the American Library Association told ABC News in late 2021 that she had "never seen such a widespread effort to remove books on racial and gender diversity"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/2020-22 book banning in the United States. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, 2020–22 book banning in the United States), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Kusma (talk) 00:03, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Hook update
Your hook reached 12,559 views (1046.5 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of March 2022 – nice work!

Bruxton (talk) 18:15, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

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DYK for Sunset Park Material Recovery Facility

On 11 March 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sunset Park Material Recovery Facility, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Sunset Park Material Recovery Facility in Brooklyn is the largest commingled recycling facility in the United States? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sunset Park Material Recovery Facility. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Sunset Park Material Recovery Facility), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for Urinal target

On 14 March 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Urinal target, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that according to a Schiphol Airport official, installing pictures of flies in urinals reduced "spillage" by 80 per cent? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Urinal target. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Urinal target), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

  • The trouble with this sort of topic at DYK is that it tends to get hidden at the bottom, in the quirky slot, even when you have some good pictures. That's what happened to my recent tinkle and now Dumelow's Sons of Neptune are being flushed away too. Still, I did manage to get top billing once... Andrew🐉(talk) 12:13, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
Hook update
Your hook reached 7,144 views (595 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of March 2022 – nice work!

Bruxton (talk) 19:07, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

  • Yes, that was good as mine only got 4,397 and Dumelow's 5,602. You win the contest! Andrew🐉(talk) 15:46, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
    I didn't know there was a "quirky slot", but this does seem like it qualifies. I cropped the image, but could've probably cropped it more to just be a picture of the fly. Meh. I don't always know what criteria the set-makers go by. I mentioned in the DYK nom that I was weakly tempted to add an alternative hook based on the Apis joke in the article, but it felt a little too crass. Would've gotten more clicks, I bet, though. :) 16:28, 17 March 2022 (UTC) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 16:28, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

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March songs

March songs

Thank you for support in the RfC for DYK - music with a chance to listen, - the piece by Anna Korsun begins after about one hour, and the voices afterwards call "Freiheit!" instead of "Freude". Music every day, pictured in songs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:59, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the link, Gerda. Always nice to see a saw :) but very unsettling to my ears. Almost like some of the post-rock I listened to years ago (sans guitars). — Rhododendrites talk \\ 16:52, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
agree about unsettling sirens --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:58, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
The Prayer is on the Main page, finally + new flowers --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:32, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

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Mar 27: Wiki-Tent Brunch in Brooklyn

March 27, 11am-2pm: Wiki-Tent Brunch in Brooklyn
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You are invited to join us for a planned outdoor gathering between the local Wikimedia NYC community and visitors from the global Wikimedia Foundation at Sahadi's tent in Brooklyn's Industry City.

All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. In addition, to participate in person you should be vaccinated and also be sure to respect others' personal space, and we may limit overall attendance size if appropriate.

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Featured picture scheduled for POTD

Hi Rhododendrites,

This is to let you know that File:Palace of Fine Arts (16794p).jpg, a featured picture you uploaded or nominated, has been selected as the English Wikipedia's picture of the day (POTD) for March 26, 2022. A preview of the POTD is displayed below and can be edited at Template:POTD/2022-03-26. If you have any concerns, please place a message at Wikipedia talk:Picture of the day. Thank you! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:22, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Palace of Fine Arts

The Palace of Fine Arts is a monumental structure in the Marina District of San Francisco, California. It was originally constructed for the 1915 Panama–Pacific International Exposition to exhibit works of art. Completely rebuilt from 1964 to 1974, it is the only structure from the exposition that survives on site. The most prominent building of the complex, a 162-foot-high (49-meter) open rotunda, is enclosed by a lagoon on one side, and adjoins a large, curved exhibition center on the other side, separated from the lagoon by colonnades.

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A kitten for you!

very cool pics, thx! :)

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A few items, re NYC meetup events

hi there. it was good to see you on the last Zoom call. just want to thank you, for being so helpful, and for providing some helpful data and information on the articles that I presented during the call.

  • Just wanted to ask one question, or make a suggestion, re the meetup today at Industry City today, in Brooklyn. do you think you could please take just a few photographs, and post them on the page for the NYC meetup? i think that would be very helpful, if you want. is that ok? thanks.
  • Also, here is another idea. I'm thinking that sometime in the future, maybe we could actually organize a zoom call which would be speifically for multiple local Wikipedia meetups. it could either be simply for various local meetups groups from around the USA, or maybe it could even be centered upon or based upon one or more specific topical areas. for me, obviously if I organize it, then probably I would choose to focus it around areas related to history. right now, it is just an idea, but I just wanted to mention that. Feel free to express any comments on this, if you want.

I really appreciate your help. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 18:09, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi, Sm8900 - Unfortunately I did not take any photos at the event yesterday. I think a couple people did. Jim.henderson had his camera.
Regarding a call for multiple groups, have you seen WP:WALRUS? It's basically representatives from various US-based groups. I don't know if there have been meetups for topic-based groups. I suspect a lot of people (including me :) ) are rather over-Zoomed, but I'd be curious to hear how it goes. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 20:59, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
hi. thanks for that link! Actually, I was not aware of that. It's good to hear that. Thanks for that info! I think I might have a few ideas on how perhaps we might help to build up that resource, and nurture and promote some possible ways to increase participation. I'd like to think this over for a little bit. but yes, perhaps we could revisit this topic again, and look at some ways to work to develop this particular idea. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 16:03, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

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Your thoughts on a page

Very nice to see you at the Wiki NYC meetup last week.

I was hoping to ask your advice once again regarding the Village Preservation page Talk:Greenwich_Village_Society_for_Historic_Preservation. I agree with your comments on the editorial changes and the POV framing that's taking place on the page. So what are the next steps that can be taken here to repair the page and make it more accurate/neutral? It seems as if the initial editor who introduced the changes in the page won't accept anything, and I'm probably not the right person to make any changes with my COI.

Any guidance here would be appreciated! DVillageP11 (talk) 17:02, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

For any page watchers, the context here is DVillageP11 joined a Wikimedia New York City event, which is open to all, asking for advice along the lines as on that page. They got a mix of advice, and I largely said there what I had already said on the talk page. DVillageP11, the reason I'm giving this context is because off-wiki canvassing/coordination is a big concern for Wikipedians and I want to be clear that I was already involved on the talk page, didn't say anything in that meeting that I didn't say on the talk page, and am not continuing to participate because of any sort of off-wiki arrangement. Like I said, conflict of interest is messy business here. :)
I think you're doing fine. It'll be slow. I'm concerned about some of Snooganssnoogans' edits alignment with core content policies, but if I just went in and undid them right away I would risk compounding rather than fixing the problem. I'd give it a few more days. It would be ideal if other voices got involved, but the next step to do that would probably be an WP:RFC, and it would be better for one of us without a COI to start that process if it comes to it. In the meantime, you could open a new section with another proposed change (ideally with citations to support it). — Rhododendrites talk \\ 17:20, 30 March 2022 (UTC)