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A Dobos torte for you![edit]

7&6=thirteen () has given you a Dobos torte to enjoy! Seven layers of fun because you deserve it.

To give a Dobos torte and spread the WikiLove, just place {{subst:Dobos Torte}} on someone else's talkpage, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

7&6=thirteen () 18:46, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Most kind of you. My thanks. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 18:49, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Saturday February 6 in NYC: Black Life Matters Editathon[edit]

Saturday February 6 in NYC: Black Life Matters Editathon

You are invited to join us and the AfroCROWD initiative at New York Public Library's Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture for our upcoming editathon, a part of the Black WikiHistory Month campaign.

12:00pm - 5:00 pm at NYPL Schomburg Center, 515 Malcolm X Boulevard (Lenox Avenue), by W 135th St

The Wikipedia training and editathon will take place in the Aaron Douglas Reading Room of the Jean Blackwell Hutson Research and Reference Division, with a reception following in the Langston Hughes lobby on the first floor of the building at 5:00pm.

We hope to see you there!--Pharos (talk) 19:17, 1 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(Bonus upcoming event: WikiWednesday Salon @ Babycastles - Wednesday, February 17)

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I've cleaned up these and other disambiguation pages that you've worked on; the entries were much too long. From MOS:DABENTRY: "Keep the description associated with a link to a minimum, just sufficient to allow the reader to find the correct link." The purpose of dab pages is to allow readers to navigate to the specific page they already have in mind, not to be read as an encyclopedia article. As such, please only include key information that is useful to disambiguate; in the case of films, this will usually be a year (often part of the link), and possibly a director or a star; not supporting cast members or a plot summary. Such additional information belongs in the linked article, but not in its dab page entry. Thanks! —swpbT 17:54, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am most appreciative of your kindness in taking the time to communicate with me regarding your contribution to these two (and "others") disambiguation pages. Over the years, a few editors have left messages on my talk page concerning this matter and, rather than reword my answers to them, permit me to provide links to a couple of these communications:
—Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 18:57, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

swpb, you'll find that's a sugar-coated way of saying, yes, Roman's been told multiple times and know it doesn't fit with the consensus, but will still waste lots of editors' time and good will because they will need to re-write them. And yes, Roman's been asked multiple times to start a discussion on the Wikiproject if he think the guidelines should be adjusted slightly to his way of thinking, but for some reason won't do that and will just carry on unilaterally doing whatever he likes. Boleyn (talk) 19:23, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Postings from such a valued longtime contributor as User:Boleyn, who has visited my talk page on a few previous (all too rare) occasions (one of the above links details my exchange with Boleyn in April 2012), are always welcome and held in high regard. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 19:31, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
To editor Roman Spinner: Well now, that is interesting. Depending on how often you have been told this and ignored it, this may rise to the level of disrupting Wikipedia to make a point. At the very least, you now have one more editor who will be checking up on you to make sure you respect consensus. At the most, it's perfectly possible for you to endanger your editing privileges by continuing this way; arbitration is a definite possibility. A decade of seniority is meaningless when you choose to ignore the consensus of the community. Boleyn has told you the only proper way to challenge that consensus. —swpbT 19:59, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
To editor Swpb: I thank you for finding this matter interesting and hope that you have had the opportunity to peruse my responses to the earlier communications (linked above) to determine that my editing pattern does not, indeed, "rise to the level of disrupting Wikipedia to make a point". Any and all editors are welcome to "check up" on me to make sure I respect consensus of the community, which I do, indeed, respect and do not feel I have ignored (or have been ignoring) and never had any intention of challenging such consensus. As for "endanger your editing privileges" and "arbitration is a definite possibility", I see that your seniority is nearly equal to my "decade of seniority" and therefore I would welcome arbitration if that is the route you wish to take. In the meantime, your postings, such as those of User:Boleyn will always be welcome on my talk page. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 20:48, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Tuesday February 16, 5:30pm: Art+Feminism Training / Photo-Poetics @ Guggenheim

You are invited to join us for an evening of social Wikipedia training and editing at the Guggenheim, with a workshop given by the Art+Feminism project to prepare for next month's major campaign, and a tour and edit-a-thon of Photo-Poetics: An Anthology.

5:30pm - 8:30pm at Sackler Center Media Lab, Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, 1071 Fifth Avenue; enter through 89th Street staff entrance
Wednesday February 17, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our evening "WikiWednesday" salon and knowledge-sharing workshop by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

This month, we will also host a Newcomer's Wiki Workshop for those getting started on the encyclopedia project!

We will also include a look at our annual plan and budget ideas, and welcome input from community members on the sorts of projects the chapter should support through both volunteer and budgetary efforts.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects. We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming editathons, and other outreach activities.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 137 West 14th Street

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! (One talk this month will be on use of Wikipedia press passes for photographers.) Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 00:28, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Cast credits[edit]

Although putting names in the order they're billed in on a film's credits is fine, as is adding in names that have been missed, please do not make any other edits with the attempt to approximate the format of a film's credits. We use a standard format: [[Actor name]] ad Character name. Please use this in the future. BMK (talk) 22:33, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Also "Cast" is the standard section title, please don't use "The players" or other variations sometimes used by films. Thanks. BMK (talk) 22:33, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
My gratitude for your most valued input. It is greatly appreciated. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 23:52, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Re: "The Foursome" -- well done, sorry for my error. BMK (talk) 01:03, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

AN[edit]

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Most kind of you to notify me. I will be happy to proceed toward the indicated link and engage in said discussion. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 21:11, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

disambiguation page ban[edit]

lBy community consensus, you are prohibited from editing disambiguation pages and talk pages of disambiguation pages. As I said in my closing statement, I suggest you create a sandbox if you wish to propose changes to dab pages.

I'd like to say one more thing: your points are being lost because you're using too many words. Be more concise. Longer isn't necessarily better. Katietalk 20:59, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I thank you for your most kind attention to this discussion and the very helpful suggestion of the manner in which dab page changes may continue to be proposed. As for the word count, I regret that there were too many statements to submit and too few words with which to make such statements. I am able to make very brief statements and have made them, along with the lengthy ones, here on this talk page. However, if I counteracted the opposing arguments with short replies, without submissions of supportive evidence, then such short points would have had even less effect than my long statements, without even leaving a historical record as to the basic particulars at the heart of this discussion. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 01:16, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mystery of the Wax Museum[edit]

Hi, Roman. Glad to help if I can. First off, I should say I don't know offhand the MOS for "&" writers; I know the Writers Guild distinction between "&" and "and", but without looking it up myself, I honestly don't know if our infoboxes simply list names and leave the &/and specifics for the article body.

I would say: based on = "The Wax Works" by Charles S. Belden

The "music" field in the infobox is for the composer, not the orchestra and conductor.

Unless the Vitaphone Corp. was a studio or a production company, it should not be in the "studio" field.

Keep in mind infoboxes shouldn't contain information unsupported elsewhere in the article. I know this was not your edit, but we cannot list Henry Blanke as an uncredited producer without RS citation, so I'm removing that but leaving your edits intact for you and other editors to work on. Hope this helps. --Tenebrae (talk)

I very much appreciate your taking the time to examine the details of this matter. As to the points you raised, some films separate writers by using a comma, other films use an "and" and still other films use an ampersand. The on-screen writing credits in this film use "&" for separation. If that symbol is considered inappropriate, any other connecting mark will suffice.
The on-screen credit states, "based on the story by Charles S. Belden" (there is no mention that the story's title is "The Wax Works" or that it is unpublished -- both of those elements are unsupported)
The sole on-screen music credit is given as "Vitaphone Orchestra conducted by Leo F. Forbstein" (there is no mention of composer Cliff Hess -- his name is an unsupported element).
The on-screen credit states "Warner Bros. Pictures, Inc. & The Vitaphone Corp. Present", but since Vitaphone Corp. was a sound system company, rather than a studio or a production company, then that would apparently make it ineligible for the "studio" field.
As you indicate, producer Henry Blanke's name was not part of my edit, and does not appear in the credits. I left it as it was, reasoning that the parenthetical "(uncredited)" would be sufficient.
However, regarding your words, "I'm removing that but leaving your edits intact", I should explain that although I initially left you this link, I neglected to leave you the link for the edit that immediately followed and which left none of my edits intact. However, 12 minutes after you made the edit concerning Henry Blanke's name, there were 13 edits made in the space of 39 minutes to Mystery of the Wax Museum, but in those 13 edits, only two of my 12 links/adjustments were restored and even those restorations were incomplete. In any event, I appreciate your willingness to help and thank you for it. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 03:49, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If you attempt once again to force your preferred version of the article by editing it without a consensus of editors on the talk page, I will immediately take your behavior to AN/I to be examined by the editors there. If you want to discuss the other items that I disagree with, I'm happy to read succinct explanations of your reasoning, but I am not spending my life reading walls-of-text from you. BMK (talk) 21:54, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No force is necessary. The consensus of all reasonable editors is already there, because none of my edits are matters of opinion or personal preference, but straight facts and corrections. The sole editor who insists on retaining all the errors, omissions, lack of links and all other inadequacies is yourself. I would more than welcome an ANI review. I have already explained in complete detail at Talk:Mystery of the Wax Museum all of the necessary corrections to be made within the article. It is you who is refusing to explain why you wish to retain the clearly incorrect and incomplete portions which I have completed and corrected. The corrections are so clearly indicated that I am truly astonished that you refuse to see them and discuss them. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 22:12, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Saturday March 5, 10am-5pm: Art+Feminism Edit-a-thon @ MoMA

You are invited to join us for the MoMA Art+Feminism edit-a-thon on Saturday, to support the expansion of Wikipedia's coverage of women in the arts.

We encourage both people new to Wikipedia, and people who have experience editing online, or have joined us for past edit-a-thon events.

This is by far our biggest event of the year (over 200 participants in the last edition), and every extra hand counts, so please join and volunteer to help us engage new communities!

10:00am - 5:00pm (drop-in anytime!) at The Dorothy and Lewis B. Cullman Education and Research Building at the Museum of Modern Art, 4 West 54 Street - between 5th/6th, New York, NY 10019
Please note that this entrance is one block north of the main 53rd Street entrance, closer to 5th Avenue.

And bring your interested friends and colleagues!

For those outside of the city, or unable to join on Saturday, check out Art+Feminism regional and global events as well. --Pharos (talk) 21:49, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Wednesday March 16, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent (Art+Feminism!) and upcoming edit-a-thons, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

We will also vote on nominations for the global Wikimedia Foundation board.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 137 West 14th Street

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! (One likely talk this month will be on the Wikidata project.) Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 18:00, 10 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Wednesday April 13, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon NYC and Mini-Video Opportunity

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

Special this month, a Mini-Video opportunity for individuals to share their Wikipedia experiences (during pre-meeting, 6-7pm, and in side-office during regular meetup). A videographer will be present to record 1-3 minute Mini-Videos of folks informally speaking, sharing anything about their Wikipedia-related projects, whether an edit-a-thon they joined, an article they edited, or a class project they were a part of, etc.

We will also follow up on plans for recent (Art+Feminism!) and upcoming edit-a-thons, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

We will also place our chapter's votes for the global Wikimedia Foundation board.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

6:00pm - 7:00pm Mini-Video and social hour
7:00pm - 9:00pm Regular meeting: Introduction for new participants, Noshing, Chapter projects

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience!

Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 14:19, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]


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Saturday April 30, 1-6pm: Contemporary Art of the Middle East and North Africa @ Guggenheim
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On Saturday April 30, 2016, in conjunction with a global campaign, the Guggenheim will host its fourth Wikipedia edit-a-thon — or, #guggathon — to enhance Wikipedia's coverage of modern and contemporary artists from the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) region, and to counter geocultural systemic bias on Wikipedia.

The Guggenheim aims to further the goals of the Guggenheim UBS MAP Global Art Initiative, and build on the model of campaigns like the Wikipedia Edit-a-thon at the Guggenheim: Women in Architecture, Wikipedia Asian Month, and Art+Feminism.

New and experienced editors are welcome. The event will include a training session for participants who are new to Wikipedia and Wikipedia specialists will be on hand to provide basic instruction and editing support.

Can’t join us in New York? Visit our global MENA Artists Month partnership page to coordinate international and online events as well.

Time: Presentation: 1:00 pm - 2:30 pm, Edit-a-thon: 2:30pm - 6:00pm
Location: Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, 1071 Fifth Avenue (88th Street), New York City, New York 10128
Guests should enter using the 88th Street entrance via the ramp at 88th Street and Fifth Avenue

Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) ~~~~~

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Wednesday May 25, 6pm: WikiWednesday Salon NYC / Enterprise MediaWiki Conference

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon.

This month's WikiWednesday Salon, we'll meet and share with the MediaWiki software development community, through a community learning night at NYU on May 25.

6:00 pm: Introduction, pizza
7:00 pm: MediaWiki tutorial, community involvement and extension ideas, novel uses of wiki technology
8:00 pm: State of the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikipedia / Wikimedia community
9:00 pm: Monthly WikiSalon in San Francisco video-link, casual bicoastal chat

Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 13:49, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]


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Sunday June 5, 12-5pm: Women in Jewish History Edit-a-thon

Join us for a full Sunday of social Wikipedia editing at the Center for Jewish History (drop-in any time!), during which we will create, update, and improve Wikipedia articles pertaining to Women in Jewish History.

All are invited, with no specialized knowledge of the subject or Wikipedia editing experience required.

Expanding coverage of Jewish women on Wikipedia makes these women and their creations discoverable, addresses the gender bias on Wikipedia in a positive way, and works to correct imbalances archival collecting practice and institutional projects that have historically silenced women's narratives.

A training session on editing Wikipedia will be held at 12:30 pm. Experienced Wikipedians will be on-hand to assist throughout the day. Please bring your laptop and power cord; we will have library resources, WiFi, and a list of suggested topics on hand.

Light refreshments will be provided.

Make edits! Ask questions! Be bold!

Time: 12:00 pm – 5:00 pm
Location: Center for Jewish History, 15 West 16th Street (between 5th and 6th Avenues), New York City, New York 10011

Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 15:01, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Stay tuned / sign up early for our June 15 WikiWednesday and other upcoming events.

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2016 Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Community Survey[edit]

The Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation has appointed a committee to lead the search for the foundation’s next Executive Director. One of our first tasks is to write the job description of the executive director position, and we are asking for input from the Wikimedia community. Please take a few minutes and complete this survey to help us better understand community and staff expectations for the Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director.

Thank you, The Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Steering Committee via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:49, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Since you changed the name you should really also fix the template, which has the old form of the name (with diacritic): [[Template:André de Toth]] Quis separabit? 17:52, 8 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I thank you for the kind reminder and will attend to the matter immediately. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 00:28, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Wednesday June 15, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

Featuring special guest presentations on Wikipedia Asian Month and Wikipedia Club at Ohio State University.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent (Art+Feminism! AfroCrowd!) and upcoming edit-a-thons, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 137 West 14th Street

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 01:37, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Stay tuned / sign up early for our AfroCrowd June calendar, June 29 Pride Edit-a-thon @ MoMA, and July 15 Wiknic @ Central Park, among other upcoming events.

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Wednesday June 29, 6-8:30pm: Wiki Loves Pride Edit-a-thon @ MoMA

Join us for an evening of social Wikipedia editing at the Museum of Modern Art Library's second annual Wiki Loves Pride Edit-a-thon, during which we will create, update, and improve Wikipedia articles pertaining to LGBT art, culture and history.

All are invited, with no specialized knowledge of the subject or Wikipedia editing experience required.

Also featuring a lightning talk by CUNY students at the La Guardia and Wagner Archives on a project to document local 1980s HIV/AIDS activism on Wikipedia.

Experienced Wikipedians will be on-hand to assist throughout the day. Please bring your laptop and power cord; we will have library resources, WiFi, and a list of suggested topics on hand.

Time: 6:00 pm – 8:30 pm
Location: Dorothy and Lewis B. Cullman Education and Research Building at MoMA, 4 West 54 Street - between 5th/6th Ave, New York, NY 10019
Please note that this entrance is one block north of the main 53rd Street entrance, closer to 5th Avenue.

Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 21:02, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Sunday July 10: WikNYC Picnic @ Central Park[edit]

Sunday July 10, 3-8pm: WikNYC Picnic

You are invited to join us the "picnic anyone can edit" in Manhattan's Central Park, as part of the Great American Wiknic celebrations being held across the USA. Remember it's a wiki-picnic, which means potluck.

3–8pm - come by any time! The picnicking area is the southwest section of the Great Lawn, north of the Delacorte Theater, just inside the park at Central Park West between 81st & 82nd. Enter the park at West 81st St.
Look for us by the Wikipedia / Wikimedia NYC banner!
Subway: 81st Street – Museum of Natural History, C Line

We hope to see you there! --Pharos (talk) 14:55, 5 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Carol Saunders Wood[edit]

We don't usually title articles by the full legal names of their subjects, but rather by the names they most commonly used: see WP:COMMONNAME. In the case of Carol Wood, "Carol Wood" is the name she published under and also the name on her personal web site, so that's the name I think we should use as the article title. Therefore I have moved it there, in effect undoing your page move. —David Eppstein (talk) 03:49, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am deferring to your expertise as the creator of this article. As a way of explanation, however, I'd like to offer a few observations. When making the move, I submitted the following edit summary, "the full name is indicated in appended cites, including subject's own curriculum vitae as well as the Wesleyan University faculty list and Mathematics Genealogy Project". In fact, while the above-mentioned personal website's main header states, "Carol Wood's Home Page A work in progress…", directly below, the link to her own Curriculum Vitae leads us to "CAROL SAUNDERS WOOD". Among the article's own cites, AMS Biographies of Candidates 2006 lists the name as Carol Saunders Wood as does the Mathematics Genealogy Project. Still another cite, Commencement Speakers Past, also depicts MATHEMATICS + BERKELEY 1998 - Carol Saunders Wood, Professor of Mathematics at Wesleyan University.
Faced with those cites, it seemed to me at the time I moved the article title that "Carol Saunders Wood" was, in fact, the WP:COMMONNAME, rather than the existing main title header, Carol S. Wood. There was no appended example of her pen name, although one of the cites, which referred to her as "Carol Wood", indicated that it was likely "C. Wood".
I will end on that point, but would also like to point out that, as a result of these moves, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carol Wood was appended to Talk:Carol Wood. The AfD refers to another (now deleted) same-named subject. I am deleting it from the mathematician's talk page. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 23:32, 27 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Wednesday Auugust 17, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

Featuring special guest presentations on WikiVerse and Bringing Wikipedia to the Last Mile.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent (UN Women!) and upcoming edit-a-thons, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 137 West 14th Street

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 23:20, 16 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Prep for our chapter elections next month in September (and add your candidacy!): Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Elections

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Please do not unarchive discussions as you did here, especially when they have been archived for almost two years. Archiving discussions does not "hide" the discussions as they are easily accessible via the "Archives" link at the top of the page. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 14:42, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your contacting me regarding this matter.
One of the reasons for my action was based on the lead sentence of Help:Archiving a talk page: "It is customary to periodically archive old discussions on a talk page when that page becomes too large."
Talk:Peter Pan (1953 film) was / is, even in its full form, a relatively brief talk page containing various topics which would certainly be of interest to anyone who cared enough to move to the talk page after visiting the main page. Whether the page was archived almost two years or almost two days ago should not matter since there was no claim that the reason for archiving virtually the entire collection of talk page comments for the 63-year-old film was because the content of said comments was outdated or immaterial.
It might seem that leaving the talk page nearly empty is unhelpful to the extent that users, often or not, continue to respond to visible old postings containing fact queries and other questions raised through the years. Many casual users, especially ones unfamiliar with detailed usage of Wikipedia, may miss the tiny number "1" in the "Archives" box or may not even realize that it represents a link.
The absence of any visible discussions may, in fact, discourage users from leaving comments [the sole visible postings are two micro-comments which are three-and-a-half and two-and-a-half years old, respectively]. Although you refer to past discussions as being "easily accessible", once those are archived, "out of sight, out of mind" appears to be the most frequent outcome, with a nearly-non-existent possibility of continuing a thread from past years which is now buried behind a layer of archiving.
I will leave it at that and, with due respect to your viewpoint, we will have to agree to disagree regarding archiving of the nature displayed at Talk:Peter Pan (1953 film). —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 15:43, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Willis Campbell listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Willis Campbell. Since you had some involvement with the Willis Campbell redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. -- Tavix (talk) 14:36, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Point of order[edit]

Just kidding. Hello RS. Thanks for taking care of the move of William Campbell (actor, born 1923) and for being so detailed in the edit summary. It sure helped to make clear what was going on. Considering the fact that the 50 year anniversary of the broadcast of the first Star Trek episode is next week the article should have been moved to William Campbell (Trelane, Koloth) but I'm guessing that only works on the Memory Alpha wikia :-) Thanks again and cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 01:09, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

And my thanks to you for taking the time to post such a considerate note. Your sentiments, especially as a Trekkie, are very much appreciated. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 01:21, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You are most welcome. I hope that you have a pleasant Labor Day weekend! MarnetteD|Talk 01:53, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I thank you, once again, for your kind words and for all your continuing contributions to Wikipedia. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 13:29, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Billie Campbell listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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Wednesday September 14, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon / Wikimedia NYC Annual Meeting

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our evening "WikiWednesday" salon and knowledge-sharing workshop by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

This month will also feature on our agenda, upcoming editathons, the organization's Annual Meeting, and Chapter board elections.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent (UN Women and CFR!) and upcoming edit-a-thons, and other outreach activities.

We also hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects. We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming editathons, and other outreach activities.

Along with the main meeting, hummus and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles, 137 West 14th Street

Featuring a keynote talk this month to be determined! We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 18:06, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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NYTM Wikipedia Edit-a-thon[edit]

Glad to see that you plan to attend the event. I am wondering if you are planning to come both days, September 27th and 29th? Also I need to have your name as listed on government issued photo ID for the security guards. If you don't wish to give it here in talk, you can register at http://NYTMWikipedia.eventbrite.com Librarianhelen (talk) 18:33, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for such a well-selected event and, while I may still be able to attend both days, another engagement on the morning of the 27th, makes it likelier that my sole day there will be the 29th. As for my name, it is the same as my username, Roman Spinner. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 19:03, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Such a perfect name for a textiles event. There are fewer folks signed up for Thursday, so I am happy to add another to the list. I will be sure to place you name on security list for Thursday. Please remember to bring a government issued photo ID, which you will need to enter the Goodman Center building on the SE corner of 27th St and 7th Ave. The library entrance is on the 5th Floor. See you then. Librarianhelen (talk) 21:06, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am looking forward to it. Thank you for contacting me. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 22:10, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Bobbi Healey listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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Bobbi Healy listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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Bobi Healy listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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Bobi Ball listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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Sunday October 16, 2pm: CommonsLab / Open House NY Photo Contest + Hackathon

On Sunday, October 16, Wikimedia NYC will host a multimedia tutorial, workshop, and hackathon focused on Wikimedia Commons and the work processes for cultural multimedia wiki-projects.

The CommonsLab is the concluding "upload party" to the Wikipedia @ Open House New York Weekend photo scavenger hunt, and an accompanying Wikimedia Commons multimedia hackathon.

The event will take the form of a modified unconference, with sessions for photographers/creatives, editors/writers and hackers/software folks!

2:00pm - 8:00 pm at NYU ITP, Tisch School of Arts, 721 Broadway, 4th Floor

Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 13:35, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

And RSVP now for our next event after this, focusing on Latin American art and artists:

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Saturday October 22, 10am: WikiArte Latin American Edit-a-thon @ MoMA

Join us for a full Saturday of social Wikipedia editing at the Museum of Modern Art (drop-in any time!), during which we will create, update, and improve Wikipedia articles pertaining to the lives and works of Latin American artists.

The WikiArte (Wiki Arte y Cultura Latinoamerica) edit-a-thon is a global campaign to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Latin American arts and culture and to counter geocultural systemic bias on Wikipedia.

Featuring an opening Artists' Panel at 10am, with Sol Aramendi, Sharon Lee De La Cruz, and Marisa Morán Jahn, to be moderated by Rocío Aranda-Alvarado, curator at El Museo del Barrio.

The Museum of Modern Art and Fundacion Cisneros/Colección Patricia Phelps de Cisneros are uniting with international allies to focus on the lives and works of Latin American artists, architects and designers. With keystone events scheduled for October 22 in New York City and other cities throughout the month (Mexico City, Buenos Aires, Caracas, & others), the campaign aims to further similar goals to Art+Feminism.

All are invited, with no specialized knowledge of the subject or Wikipedia editing experience required. Introductory training on the basics of Wikipedia editing will be given throughout the edit-a-thon. Please bring your laptop and power cord; we will have library resources, WiFi, and a list of suggested topics on hand.

10:00am - 6:00pm at The Dorothy and Lewis B. Cullman Education and Research Building at MoMA, 4 West 54th Street (between 5th and 6th Avenue)
Please note that this entrance is one block north of the main 53rd Street entrance, closer to 5th Avenue

Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 23:29, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Buddy Holly template[edit]

Hello, You've contributed to Buddy Holly template. There's a conflict on it and I'd like you to give your opinion. Elfast (talk) 16:37, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

My sole edit to the template, five-and-a-half years ago, was intended to adjust a disambiguating qualifier, but I see nothing objectionable in returning to participate in a discussion. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 02:24, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oleh Sentsov[edit]

Thank you for your comment and explanation. There is much to consider.

I am particularly alarmed (I struggled to find a more neutral word for that and failed) by your statement that Amnesty International continue to use Oleg. Surely they would be aware of the implications?

Feel free to reply or to email me (andrewa at alder.ws if you wish to use an anonymous server for this, which I don't think you can do using the link on my user page). Andrewa (talk) 07:41, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am most appreciative of your concern with the human rights aspect of this discussion. Although there is a fairly common belief that disagreements regarding main title headers are of minor importance because redirects attend to all other variants, in cases where national linguistic pride is involved, there is no compromise with the unrelenting desire to possess the main header, as attested by numerous WP:RMs.
Such accented and/or diacritical considerations may be considered fairly trivial in most cases, but when a political prisoner faces spending much of his life in harsh faraway confinement, name transliteration gains additional importance. That is not to imply that any name form would influence Sentsov's fate, but it would be, at least, a statement, based upon the clearly WP:NPOV application of WP:UKRAINIANNAMES. While Sentsov has a Russian surname and completed some of his higher education in Moscow, I have not seen any claims that he has dual Russian-Ukrainian citizenship and there is no disputing the fact that he was arrested on internationally-recognized Ukrainian territory and is himself internationally recognized as a Ukrainian citizen.
Although I am dismayed by Amnesty International's use of "Oleg" rather than "Oleh", it is to be expected when the Ukrainian government's own foreign ministry, in its condemnation of Setsov's arrest, has used "Oleg". The unfortunate, but simple, explanation is that the Ukrainian language has long been a poor stepchild of Russian and the transliteration of Cyrillic alphabet variants (into forms used in Latin alphabet) has long followed the dominant Russian example.
In taking nothing away from the praiseworthy dedication of Amnesty International, we should realize that it is an international organization, operating in many languages, which uses forms generally seen in reliable sources and, in issuing an English-language pronouncement, apparently did not consult with those who are knowledgeable in Ukrainian-Russian name variants nor, as you point out, realized any possible implications in such variants. The U.S. State Department, on the other hand, obviously did consult with its Ukrainian experts before issuing its communique which uses "Oleh".
The Ukrainian foreign ministry's use of "Oleg" may appear to be even more dismaying until one realizes that all such government announcements are originally in Ukrainian and are subsequently forwarded to government translators tasked with rendering these into the world's major languages. All of the previous Ukrainian government were, in one way or another, subservient to Russia and many or most of the government employees are likely holdovers from the Soviet era or later hires who studied in Russia.
Finally, I also appreciate that you are concerned regarding my need for anonymity. Although my name and my user name are the same, I am based in the U.S. and feel that an honest discussion of this topic, along with the welcome participation of Russian Wikipedians, should be free of rancor and not cause jeopardy for any participant. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 20:49, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A cup of coffee for you![edit]

At Commons:Commons:Village_pump#Polish_speaker_needed someone requested a check of some categories from a Polish speaker. Are you able to comment to assist? Thanks. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:21, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the notice and, of course, I will immediately follow the link and participate in any ongoing state of affairs. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 17:47, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Saturday November 12: Women in Science Edit-a-thon @ NY Academy of Sciences (plus Sunday Indigenous People's Justice event)[edit]

Saturday November 12, 12-4pm: Women in Science Edit-a-thon @ NY Academy of Sciences

Join us for a full Saturday of social Wikipedia editing at NY Academy of Sciences (drop-in any time!), during which we will create, update, and improve Wikipedia articles covering Women in science for their second annual edit-a-thon!.

This event also coincides with the year-long celebration of the Academy's 200th Anniversary and a Women in Red online campaign.

Beginning and experienced Wikipedia writers are both welcome, and there will be helpers on hand to assist those new to editing the encyclopedia.

Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 19:26, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

And RSVP now for our other event this Sunday in Brooklyn, focusing on Indigenous communities and social justice:

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A propos of Carl Gustav Jung and his Frauen[edit]

Hello Roman. I have a request for help, if you can. I am of very recent vintage on Wikipedia and would like to propose the deletion of a Jung-related article, Jungfrauen it is a non-topic, but could I suppose be justified as trivia in a paragraph merged into the main Carl Gustav Jung article. I don't know how to tag it to get a discussion going to delete and merge. I have had a go at editing it, and have left my comments there, but in truth I think it's a prank. Thank you. --Po Kadzieli (talk) 19:43, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your contacting me regarding this curious subject. I will examine the matter and participate in providing a resolution. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 14:43, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you and a propos your editorial birthday, and incidentally the excellent summary on the CGJ talk page, 'wszystkiego najlepszego oraz dużo pomyślności!'. Kind regards, --Po Kadzieli (talk) 09:35, 26 November 2016 (UTC)== A propos of Carl Gustav Jung and his Frauen ==[reply]

Hello Roman. I have a request for help, if you can. I am of very recent vintage on Wikipedia and would like to propose the deletion of a Jung-related article, Jungfrauen it is a non-topic, but could I suppose be justified as trivia in a paragraph merged into the main Carl Gustav Jung article. I don't know how to tag it to get a discussion going to delete and merge. I have had a go at editing it, and have left my comments there, but in truth I think it's a prank. Thank you. --Po Kadzieli (talk) 19:43, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your contacting me regarding this curious subject. I will examine the matter and participate in providing a resolution. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 14:43, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you and a propos your editorial birthday, and incidentally the excellent summary on the CGJ talk page, 'wszystkiego najlepszego oraz dużo pomyślności!'. Kind regards, --Po Kadzieli (talk) 09:35, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
My gratitude for your taking the time to send such supportive sentiments. I też jestem wdzięczny za otrzymanie takich dodatkowo przyjemnych słów w języku ojczystym. Thank you. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 05:19, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I salute your patience and stamina in your entirely justifiable proposal. I don't know if this is of any use, but 'Carl Jung' is a celebrated German manufacturer of non-alcoholic wines, established in 1903. You may like to consult: www.carljungwines.com/. Moreover, jako długoletni analityk, student i wykładowca w tejże dziedzinie, prawie wyłącznie w języku angielskim, you will always have my vote in this regard. However, as I have already discovered during my brief sojourn on Wikipedia, there are some 'hard nuts' that will not be told. This is why I have withdrawn from the discussion. If they were not so proprietorial, I would suggest consulting any one of the learned societies in the field, in Great Britain, the United States or in Zurich which is the seat of the International Association for Analytical Psychology. I have little doubt they would endorse your proposal. On the other hand, there are people out there who are 'camp followers' - and good luck to them - who may have a tendency to bowdlerise somewhat and hence the current title. Jak powyżej, dużo pomyślności! --Po Kadzieli (talk) 00:40, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open![edit]

Hello, Roman Spinner. Voting in the 2016 Arbitration Committee elections is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Saturday December 3: Contemporary Chinese Art Edit-a-thon @ Guggenheim

On Saturday December 3, 2016, in conjunction with a global campaign, the Guggenheim will host its fifth Wikipedia edit-a-thon—or, #guggathon—to enhance Wikipedia's coverage of modern and contemporary artists from Greater China. The event will cap off Wikipedia Asian Month, an online campaign dedicated to augmenting Asian content on Wikipedia throughout November.

New and experienced editors are welcome. The event will include a training session for participants who are new to Wikipedia, and Wikipedia specialists will be on hand to provide basic instruction and editing support. Editors are invited to view the exhibition Tales of Our Time following the event.

The Guggenheim aims to raise awareness of the artists featured in the Tales of Our Time exhibition supported by The Robert H. N. Ho Family Foundation Chinese Art Initiative, and build on the model of campaigns like the Wikipedia Edit-a-thon at the Guggenheim: Women in Architecture, Wikipedia Edit-a-thon at the Guggenheim: Contemporary Art of the Middle East and North Africa, and Art+Feminism.

  • Enter at the 88th Street entrance via the ramp at 88th Street and Fifth Avenue.

Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 09:46, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The Squall (1993 film) listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect The Squall (1993 film). Since you had some involvement with the The Squall (1993 film) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:27, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the notice and will visit the linked page. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 05:19, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Wednesday December 21, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

This will be the holiday party! Celebrate a December holiday with us, or in wiki-fashion, edit the calendar itself and join us to celebrate any holiday of your choice regardless of when it usually happens.

Featuring special guest presentations on structure data, university library meetups, metrics and reporting, and other topics.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, savory and sweet pies and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 137 West 14th Street

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 21:43, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Duplicate move request[edit]

Hey Roman Spinner, just wondering why you created a separate move request[1] instead of proposing your alternative within the current discussion. It isn't a best practice to have two desperate conversations going on regarding a move. Respectfully, please refactor your alternate proposal into a !vote for an alternate title as part of the current discussion thread. Tiggerjay (talk) 22:27, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Tiggerjay. I appreciate your contacting me regarding this matter, thus presenting an opportunity to clarify any possible misunderstandings.
Judging by the link you submitted above, your reference to "two desperate conversations" is focused upon Talk:Weija-Gbawe (Ghana parliament constituency)#Requested move 12 December 2016 and Talk:Weija-Gbawe (Ghana parliament constituency)#Requested move 13 December 2016, with a glance at the withdrawn Talk:Weija-Gbawe (Ghana parliament constituency)#Requested move 11 December 2016.
The key point to be noticed in these nominations is that, while I commented upon their specifics, all three were submitted by User:Sandiooses.
The related, but separate, mass nomination of 24 entries which I submitted is located at Talk:Ablekuma Central (Ghana parliament constituency)#Requested move 13 December 2016.
I did notify sandiooses regarding my nomination, but have had no other communication. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 23:44, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Merry[edit]

Season's Greetings, Roman Spinner!
At this wonderful time of year, I would like to give season’s greetings to all the fellow Wikipedians I have interacted with in the past! May you have a wonderful holiday season! MarnetteD|Talk 19:17, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
[reply]

So considerate of you to write, MarnetteD. I am most grateful and wish you a happy future for all the years to come! —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 19:48, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You were involved in the previous RM discussion. I invite you to comment on the latest RM one. --George Ho (talk) 20:05, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year, Roman Spinner[edit]

How thoughtful of you to send such a much-appreciated card, Sam Sailor. Please accept my gratitude for your contributions to Wikipedia and my sincerest wishes for your continued enjoyment of life! —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 04:16, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Weija (Ghana parliament constituency)[edit]

All sorted now! Thanks for supporting sandioosesTextMe 13:06, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sunday January 15: Wikipedia Day NYC 2017

You are invited to join us at Ace Hotel for Wikipedia Day NYC 2017, a Wikipedia celebration and mini-conference as part of the project's global 16th birthday festivities. In addition to the party, the event will be a participatory unconference, with plenary panels, lightning talks, and of course open space sessions.

With special guests Katherine Maher of the Wikimedia Foundation and Tim Wu of Columbia Law School speaking on our Post-truth panel!

Also featuring an International/Multilingual panel, a Documenting Activism panel, a Multimedia/Tech Panel, a Science panel, an Art panel, and more.

And there will be cake.

We also hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

10:00am - 7:00 pm at Ace Hotel, 20 West 29th Street in Manhattan

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 14:57, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A page you started (British Academy Scotland Awards) has been reviewed![edit]

Thanks for creating British Academy Scotland Awards, Roman Spinner! Wikipedia editor Xcia0069 just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

Good page

To reply, leave a comment on Xcia0069's talk page. Learn more about page curation. Xcia0069 (talk) 09:12, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the posting, but cannot take the credit for creating this page. While I did create, over four years ago, the redirect which contained this page's main title header, the creator of the page's content is User:ChrisGFA who also contributed numerous other entries in this series. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 03:30, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks User:Roman Spinner, thought the article needed a fresh lick of paint ChrisGFA (talk) 12:19, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You are most welcome, ChrisGFA. All of your entries exemplify the highest level of professional effort and are a true credit to Wikipedia as well as being much appreciated. You more than deserve all the accolades and "Good page" evaluations. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 12:53, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page watcher) Hi Roman. Lugnuts and I had a similar situation in Dance of the Polar Bears; I'd created a redirect, and a year or two later Lugnuts turned it into an article. Since only he and I had edited the page, we decided to move it to his userspace without leaving a redirect, and he restarted the article in main space and got the credit he deserved. Since the only substantial edits to British Academy Scotland Awards have been by ChrisGFA, I suppose something similar could be done in this case. You could try asking Anthony Appleyard, who knows these matters like the back of his hand. Best, — Sam Sailor 14:23, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Sam. Very kind of you to offer such helpful advice. I will immediately contact Anthony Appleyard and ask for assistance in remedying this situation. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 21:27, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Anthony Appleyard, thank you for your help. If it is possible to delete my name from the article's revision history, that would solve the matter or, alternatively, the entire article could be temporarily deleted and subsequently restored with a new revision history indicating ChrisGFA as the first user name. Perhaps others may have additional suggestions. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 04:34, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate your involvement and will be happy to accept whatever resolutions anyone is willing to propose. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 04:54, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Wednesday February 15, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

Featuring special guest presentations on WikiProject La Guardia and Wagner Archives, WikiProject Metropolitan Museum of Art, Wiki Loves the Dominican Republic, and more.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 137 West 14th Street

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 22:17, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Get ready now for Black WikiHistory Month Weekend:

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Coro region[edit]

Good day, I saw you support the change name of Sistema Coriano to Coro region. Since the article is talking about a geographic natural region of Venezuela, the name of "Coro region" haven't been in use in English language to describe this unit. I'm suggesting (if the case it's to change the article name in English) the use of Coriano System, Coro System or Lara-Falcón Hill System since a lot of scientist papers and other reliable source have mentioned that name for that region. I might show you the following links so you can check:

I haven't seen any article neither other information in English language, naming that geographic-natural area as "Coro region". That's why I don't support the change of name to "Coro region", since there are other reliable English-name for that area, we can use instead of the proposed one. --Gabrielsanz (talk) 07:28, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • I appreciate your contacting me regarding the region's English-language name and taking the time to provide a wealth of data on this subject. On the basis of those submissions, I will defer to your geographical expertise by changing my vote to "Neutral". —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 14:10, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

FYI. [2]. I didn't ping you on the page, so as to keep the votes cleaner. --David Tornheim (talk) 06:11, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Editing comments[edit]

Please read Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines#Own comments, note that this is a behavioural guideline and that this edit is in violation of it.

I have now replied to your modified comment, so please do not revert it or change it again. Thank you. Andrewa (talk) 17:47, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relevance of other Wikipedias[edit]

I urge you to put your views at WT:AT#Article names in other Wikipedias, from which I have now twice pinged you.

I believe that your continued reference to other language Wikipedias [3] is at least bordering on failing to get the point. Andrewa (talk) 05:55, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your notification and will follow the link to join the above-mentioned discussion.
I am surprised, however to find that you seem to consider our sister/brother/fellow Wikipedias as so unworthy of consultation that the mere mention of other Wikipedias' main title headers in discussions should bring forth accusations of disruptive editing. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 13:16, 4 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It is not the mention of them that is disruptive. It is the repeated raising of this particular argument in the face of a clear and policy-based consensus that it is irrelevant.
I do not consider our sister/brother/fellow Wikipedias as so unworthy of consultation... at all. This rhetoric is unhelpful and untruthful, and was also raised by you in point 2) of a post to which I have already replied. Andrewa (talk) 01:47, 5 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I am glad to have the opportunity to discuss this matter further. If I understand you correctly, it is not disruptive to mention other Wikipedias, but it is disruptive to mention that the article titles in those Wikipedias are different from those in English Wikipedia. More specifically, if I dare to mention on the pages of English Wikipedia that 67 other-language Wikipedias use the name Carl Gustav Jung or that other-language Wikipedias use the main header Oleh Sentsov, I would be guilty of behavioral problems and disruptive behavior requiring punishment, since such facts regarding our fellow projects have been judged to be irrelevant to the discussion and, as a result, must be kept from our fellow Wikipedians lest it confuse and disturb those who may not have researched these topics on their own time. If I am incorrect in this perception, I would welcome an explanation as to which aspects of my depiction above are incorrect.
While I mentioned the form of main title headers upon other-language Wikipedias' talk page discussions regarding Jung and Sentsov, I never made other Wikipedias the centerpiece of my argumentation, but simply felt that it was one aspect of the total picture that should be made available to those Wikipedians who may have been unaware of it.
As for engaging in rhetoric, that was never my intention, but accusations of behavioral problems and disruptive editing are deeply negative charges which were entirely based upon my mention of other Wikipedias' headers atop their Jung and Sentsov entries. The natural progression from that point appeared to represent that your comments were a denigration of other Wikipedias as having nothing relevant or helpful to contribute to the discussion.
Since the behavioral/disruptive accusations were based upon the Jung/Sentsov discussions, I had to provide the proper context for the original mentions and therefore had to make frequent mention (at the WT:AT#Article names in other Wikipedias discussion) of the foreign Wikipedias, thus making it appear as if I make mentions of these Wikis on regular/continuous basis.
I posted all my responses at the same time, 13:16, 4 March 2017 (UTC), well before your mention, "and was also raised by you in point 2) of a post to which I have already replied", since your reply was dated 21:20, 4 March 2017. In any event, since you describe my above-quoted comments as "unhelpful and untruthful", I offer my apology for them and hope to arrive at a reasonable resolution. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 05:10, 5 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As there now appears to be no hope of consensus at wt:Article titles#Article names in other Wikipedias, I must withdraw my suggestion that your repeatedly raising this argument is disruptive, with apologies. It remains my opinion that you would do better not to appeal to this particular argument at all, but this is just a personal opinion. Andrewa (talk) 07:31, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am grateful for your taking the time and effort to contact me. In my eleven years of editing Wikipedia, I have rarely resorted to pointing out comparisons between name forms in English Wikipedia and other-language Wikipedias, but if such a comparison ever needed pointing out, then the Jung and Sentsov pages were certainly prime candidates for it due to the highly particular circumstances I felt were inherent in the argumentation therein.
I respect your view and the the views of others who hold a different opinion, but feel that when an editor comes across a naming dispute centering upon a topic from outside the English-speaking world, he or she should not feel constrained or afraid of violating a clearly-stated guideline if an opportunity presents itself to offer the discussion participants a neutral view of the topic from another perspective. Such a view may well be rejected by the participants, but they should not be prevented from being exposed to it. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 08:59, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

March 11: Art+Feminism Edit-a-thon @ MoMA (and beyond!)[edit]

Saturday March 11: Art+Feminism Edit-a-thon @ MoMA

Join us at the Dorothy and Lewis B. Cullman Education and Research Building at the Museum of Modern Art, 4 West 54th Street, on Saturday, March 11, 2017 from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. for an all-day communal updating of Wikipedia entries on subjects related to art and feminism. There will be childcare, snacks, multiple trainings and panel discussions. People of all gender identities and expressions welcomed and encouraged to attend.

This year’s edit-a-thon kicks off at 10:00 a.m. with a conversation about information activism with writer Joanne McNeil and Data & Society Research Institute Fellow Zara Rahman, moderated by Kimberly Drew, the social media manager for the Metropolitan Museum of Art, creator of the Tumblr “Black Contemporary Art,” and the person behind @museummammy on Instagram. Afternoon breakout groups will engage in focused discussions about related issues, including intersectionality and librarianship, power structures in notability guidelines on Wikipedia, and radical archives. --Pharos (talk) 18:46, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]


And a broader calendar of events on the theme this week/weekend, and the next:

  • Mar 08 - Gladys Marcus Library, Fashion Institute of Technology
11am - 5pm
in New York, NY
Wikipedia:NYC/FIT/Womens Day Edit-a-thon
  • Mar 11 -Purchase College Library
11am - 4pm
in Purchase, NY
Facebook event
  • Mar 11 - The Museum of Modern Art
10am - 5pm
in New York, NY
Facebook event
MoMA event
  • Mar 12 - Interference Archive
2pm - 6pm
in Brooklyn, NY
Interference Archive event
  • Mar 12 - Kickstarter HQ
10am - 5pm
in Brooklyn, NY
Eventbrite event
  • Mar 18 -SVA Library
12pm - 5pm
in New York, NY
Eventbrite event

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Sunday March 26: Action=History Wiki-Hackathon @ Ace Hotel

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For this month, and following on the recent Art+Feminism campaign, we'll focus on building better edit-a-thon tools for a variety of different thematic campaigns, and user-testing them with the community. Towards a goal of advancing these tools for wider use with diverse local groups.

Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 05:13, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Wednesday April 19, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

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We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

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Space after heading[edit]

You appear to be automatically removing the spaces after headings, such as in [this edit]. A blank line after the heading is optional per MOS:HEAD and established optional styles should not be changed without a good reason per WP:STYLEVAR. SpinningSpark 11:23, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your taking the time to communicate with me and for presenting me with the opportunity to explain those edits. When editing articles for corrections, additions, disambiguations, links, etc, I also pay attention to spacing consistency. If all section headers in an article are uniformly followed by a blank space or if all such headers are immediately followed by text, I make no adjustments. However, in the case of random inconsistency, such as that within the article you presented within the linked example above, I tend to adjust such spaces.
In examining the content of the article in question, Topology (electrical circuits), as it appeared immediately before my edit, one can determine the then-existing section header spacing:

1."Circuit diagrams" had no space
2."Topology names" had a space
3."Series and parallel topologies" had a space
4."Y and Δ topologies" had no space
5.Simple filter topologies" had no space
6."Bridge topology" had no space
7."Bridged T and Twin-T topologies" had no space
8."Infinite topologies" had no space
9."Components with more than two terminals" had a space
10."Graph theory" had a space
10.1."History" had a space
10.2."Graphs and circuit diagrams" had no space
10.3."Incidence" had no space
10.4."Equivalence" had a space
10.5."Trees and links" had no space
10.6."Tie sets and cut sets" had a space
10.7."Nullity and rank" had a space
10.8."Solving the network variables" had a space
10.9."Duality" had a space
10.10."Node and mesh elimination" had a space
10.11."Mutual coupling" had no space
10.12."Active components" had a space
10.12.1."Hypergraphs" had a space
10.13."Non-homogeneous variables" had a space
10.14."Network synthesis" had a space
10.15."Infinite networks" had a space
11."Notes" had no space
12."See also" had no space
13."References" had no space
14."Bibliography" had a space

Thus, among the 30 section headers, 13 had no space and 17 had a space. It seemed to be a non-controversial adjustment to indicate all headers uniformly without a space. If you would prefer, however, that I return the headers to their original spaced/unspaced form, please let me know. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 22:36, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ANI[edit]

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April 2017[edit]

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Sunday May 21, 10:30 am - 4:30pm: Metropolitan Museum of Art Edit-a-thon

The Metropolitan Museum of Art Edit-a-thon: Met Open Access Initiative is the Metropolitan Museum of Art's first edit-a-thon, being hosted on Sunday May 21, 2017 in Thomas J. Watson Library at The Met Fifth Avenue in New York City.

The Met is excited to make available over 375,000 images of public domain artworks for contribution to Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons from the museum’s collection spanning 5,000 years of art. The event is an opportunity for Wikimedia communities to engage The Met's diverse collection onsite and remotely. The event is a key marker too of The Metropolitan Museum of Art's first Wikimedian-in-Residence program, with resident Richard Knipel (User:Pharos), along with Wikimedia NYC. We invite you to help enhance Wikimedia communities and platforms with open access images from The Metropolitan Museum of Art.

The event requires pre-registration. To register, 1) please sign-up with Eventbrite via The Met's website and 2) add your Wikipedia username to the #Participants on the wikimeetup page. Please check-in with museum staff when you arrive at the Thomas J. Watson Library within the museum.

We also welcome remote participation for the global Met Open Access Artworks Challenge (15 May - 30 June, 2017), you can sign up there at Met Open Access Artworks Challenge/Participants. --Pharos (talk) 16:23, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Wednesday May 24, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

Topics this month include the TED wikiproject, the Met wikiproject, and encouraging free video on Wikimedia Commons!

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 137 West 14th Street

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 19:30, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • P.S. bonus event this weekend:

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"Motion Picture Guide" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect "Motion Picture Guide". Since you had some involvement with the "Motion Picture Guide" redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. UnitedStatesian (talk) 02:26, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

We're on Twitter![edit]

WikiLGBT is on Twitter!
Hello Roman Spinner!
Follow the Wikimedia LGBT user group on Twitter at @wikilgbt for news, photos, and other topics of interest to LGBT Wikipedans and allies. Use #wikiLGBT to share any Wiki Loves Pride stuff that you would like to share (whether this month or any day of the year) or to alert folks to things that the LGBT Wikipedan community should know. RachelWex 21:36, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Thursday June 22, 6-8:30pm: Wiki Loves Pride Edit-a-thon @ MoMA

Join us for an evening of social Wikipedia editing at the Museum of Modern Art Library's third annual Wiki Loves Pride Edit-a-thon, during which we will create, update, and improve Wikipedia articles pertaining to LGBT art, culture and history.

All are invited, with no specialized knowledge of the subject or Wikipedia editing experience required.

Themes for this event include art related to HIV/AIDS activism and on LGBTQ artists of the African Diaspora as part of the Black Lunch Table project.

Experienced Wikipedians will be on-hand to assist throughout the day. Please bring your laptop and power cord; we will have library resources, WiFi, and a list of suggested topics on hand.

Time: 6:00 pm – 8:30 pm
Location: Dorothy and Lewis B. Cullman Education and Research Building at MoMA, 4 West 54 Street - between 5th/6th Ave, New York, NY 10019
Please note that this entrance is one block north of the main 53rd Street entrance, closer to 5th Avenue.

Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 21:40, 15 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Stay tuned / sign up early for our Sunday June 25 Hackathon @ Ace Hotel, the Sunday July 9 Wiknic on Governors Island, and other upcoming events.

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A beer for you![edit]

Thank you for editing with Black Lunch Table at Wiki Loves Pride!
Heathart (talk) 02:32, 23 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sunday July 9: WikNYC Picnic @ Governors Island[edit]

Sunday July 9, 1-6pm: WikNYC Picnic

You are invited to join us the "picnic anyone can edit" on New York City's green and historic Governors Island, as part of the Great American Wiknic celebrations being held across the USA. Remember it's a wiki-picnic, which means potluck.

1–6pm - come by any time! Our reserved picnicking area is Grill #5 by Nolan Park in the northern part of Governors Island.
Look for us by the Wikipedia / Wikimedia NYC banner!

We hope to see you there! --Pharos (talk) 11:03, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Wednesday July 19, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 02:37, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Sunday July 30: Action=History Wiki-Hackathon @ Ace Hotel

On the last Sunday of every month, the Boardroom at Ace Hotel New York hosts Action Equals History — a unique opportunity for New Yorkers to learn hands-on in a technology training/workshop session about the mechanics, practices and benefits of Wikipedia and the Wikimedia projects. This is an opportunity for all to gather, share and work collectively towards a more robust account of history.

For this month, we'll focus on Wikipedia casual editing, ways to use and develop Wikidata, building better edit-a-thon tools for a variety of different thematic campaigns, and user-testing them with the community. Towards a goal of advancing these tools for wider use with diverse local groups.

Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 14:21, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Pretty Hurts[edit]

Hello, I don't know if you remember recommending a dab page for Pretty Hurts, but I had it made for you just so you know. 2601:8C:4001:DCB9:E559:381A:F74C:F65B (talk) 15:17, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your effort and kindness in notifying me is much appreciated. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 15:32, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much. However, my work has been removed by Cuchullain. I am setting up a move request at Talk:Pretty Hurts#Requested move 24 July 2017 that I would like you to participate in to help me get my point across if you are interested. 2601:8C:4001:DCB9:E559:381A:F74C:F65B (talk) 22:20, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Move requests at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests concerning commas[edit]

Hi, Roman Spinner. When you requested that Benjamin Franklin Jr. be moved back to Benjamin Franklin, Jr. (diff), Dicklyon then listed nine more such cases (diff). I just wanted to let you know that I initially removed them (diff) and started a discussion at User talk:Dicklyon § Move requests at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests concerning commas after your own revert request. But to no avail, as the edits were re-listed (diff) and completed (diff). Just wanted to let you know that I'd tried some action against the constant listings. -- AlexTW 08:46, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Lawrence of Rome has been nominated for discussion[edit]

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Category:Year of birth missing (living people) has been nominated for discussion[edit]

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Category:Place of birth missing (living people) has been nominated for discussion[edit]

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Wednesday August 30, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 12:03, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Wednesday September 27, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon / Wikimedia NYC Annual Meeting

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

This month will also feature on our agenda, upcoming editathons, the organization's Annual Meeting, and Chapter board elections.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 00:42, 13 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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September 2017[edit]

Information icon Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Talk:Home Alone. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been reverted.

Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continual disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. The Old JacobiteThe '45 23:00, 13 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I will reply to your posting in the same wording and spirit as you replied to mine: "Do not leave any further messages here". Your deletion of my posts on the article talk page was in violation of Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines#Editing others' comments and the deletion of those posts is being done not by "multiple editor", but only by you and one other editor, on an alternative basis, and if you continue to delete them, I will continue to repost them, since the talk page clearly states that it is the venue for suggesting improvements to the article, and my posts are most assuredly suggestions for improvements to the article and contain no "inappropriate" elements. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 01:54, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Two editors is "multiple" editors.
I fail to see how posting the entire cast list "for the record" has anything to do with improving the article. - SummerPhDv2.0 00:02, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate your participation in this discussion which may hopefully provide a fresh outlook regarding the issue in question. You are, of course, correct that "Two editors is "multiple" editors", but still not "multiple editor", as it appears in its original venue. Furthermore, using such a form, even with plural "editors", blurs the fact that the author of this posting added self to create the multiplicity of two editors. Under those circumstances, the use of "multiple" to buttress one's own argument seems disingenuous.
It should be also noted that the deletions have continued to encompass not only the cast list, but also my two postings under section header "Larry Hankin in the opening credits of Home Alone", thus leaving another editor's original posting bereft of follow-up commentary.
Furthermore, this was my posting at the top of the complete cast list: Because issues have been raised regarding the listing and positioning of cast members and their character names, the list below, depicting the film's exact on-screen credits, serves as a reference tool for resolving any uncertainties. As an example, the character portrayed by Anna Slotky, although listed, as of this writing, in the article's cast list as "Brooke", appears in the credits as "Brook".
At the bottom of the list, I added these words: It may also be noted that had the cast list been confined to the first 14 names, it could be considered as a complete listing up to that point. However, as of this writing, the list omits the 15th-billed and 16th-billed cast members, but includes the 17th, 18th and 19th-billed names, thus qualifying for placement under section header "Selected cast list".
The explanations (as indicated in green, above) have continued to be deleted, along with the complete cast list. As a result, users are confronted with a cherry-picked cast list, but discussion of that fact is being deleted on the talk page.
As a further examination of that point, a cherry-picked cast list consisting of all the blue-linked cast members is possible if properly presented. I attempted such a presentation within the article here by listing all 11 cast members who appear in the opening credits and, alongside, a second list, selected to indicate all those who have a Wikipedia article, but are listed only in the closing credits [listing them in the order of those names' on-screen appearance under the heading "Selected cast list in closing credits"]. That cast list was almost immediately restructured and reduced, while being described as "That's not constructive" in the edit summary.
One of the purposes of a complete cast list is that it deliberately redlinks names which do not have a Wikipedia article, thus enabling users who care about such matters to easily distinguish the positioning of those missing cast members amidst the names of blue-linked actors. Anyone who cares enough about the film to peruse the film's article, may also wish to peruse the content of that film's talk page or leave a comment, possibly regarding the redlinked cast members. Although a number of the redlinked names will likely never rate a Wikipedia article, they were a part of this film and were listed on-screen, therefore the talk page is the place where such a list may be positioned.
Also 8 of the film's blue linked actors who are listed in the closing credits: Matt Doherty, Ralph Foody, Billie Bird, Bill Erwin, Gerry Becker, Alan Wilder, Hope Davis and Kenneth Hudson Campbell have Wikipedia articles, but are missing from the article's current cast list (and the links that flow to the article) because their parts are considered too minor. The film's talk page (with its complete cast list) is thus the only venue where these linked names are connected to the film. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 02:55, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop making disruptive edits, as you did at Talk:Home Alone.

If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. The Old JacobiteThe '45 13:52, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Although you deleted my posting of a similar boilerplate on your talk page, I have always maintained complete historical accuracy of my talk page and will retain all your postings "For the record". —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 03:03, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Vietnamese place names[edit]

Hi Roman, all Vietnamese geographical names on en.wp are spelled in Vietnamese, just like all Turkish, Maltese whatever are all spelled in local Latin font with diacritics. All, 100%. That RM was started by a sock of Genealogizer/Bobby Martnen. The SPI hasn't wound up yet. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:28, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

First off, I'm not a sock, and secondly, shouldn't all names of any sort on the the English Wikipedia be spelled in English? I don't expect to find an article titled chien, nor do I expect to find one titled casa, nor do I expect to find one titled Mittwoch. Why should geographic names be any different? Most actual reliable sources (i.e. Britannica, Columbia, Oxford) that aren't just an anonymous person on the internet agree with me. No offense, but I trust reliable peer-reviewed works far more than I trust someone whom I know absolutely nothing about. And just so you know, apparently the Grand Duchy of Cracow article you want to move to the Polish version of its name was originally at "Cracow", if I'm reading the revision history properly. Academicoffee71 (talk) 03:29, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Bobby, the evidence on the SPI clearly says otherwise. As the case is about to be filed if you wish to defend yourself you should go there quickly. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:08, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, In ictu oculi and thank you for taking the time to contact me. Regardless of submission/presentation circumstances, each topic of contention still deserves to be discussed on its own merits. Even if Academicoffee71 turns out to be the blocked/banned user Genealogizer/Bobby Martnen, his arguments have always been presented in a well-reasearched and highly articulate manner, while the issues he raises still need to be resolved. We have disagreed with his view that the various uses of Kraków should be rendered as Cracow, but I and/or others may agree with him on revision/removal (in English Wikipedia) of diacritics from some names, such as Thiago Alcântara, or from some (obviously, not all) Vietnamese entries that have become, as a result of the Vietnam War or other historical factors, known and referenced in the English-speaking world to a degree sufficient for consideration as exonyms. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 16:33, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Move Review[edit]

An editor has asked for a Move review of Grand Duchy of Kraków. Because you participated in the requested move, you might want to participate in the move review. Academicoffee71 (talk) 05:01, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sunday October 15: Wikipedia @ Open House New York / Weekend Photo Competition

This event is the concluding "upload party" to the Wikipedia @ Open House New York Weekend photo scavenger hunt, and an accompanying Wikimedia Commons tutorial and multimedia hackathon,

Learn how to work with your photos to illustrate New York City articles!

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The "Cry"-ing game[edit]

Hiya, Roman. Personally, because of the quote marks, I think Cry 'Havoc' doesn't needs a parenthetical differentiator. But it's not something I feel strongly about either way. --Tenebrae (talk) 21:47, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sunday November 19, 10:30 am - 4:00pm: Metropolitan Museum of Art Edit-a-thon

The Wikipedia Asian Month Edit-a-thon @ The Met will be the Metropolitan Museum of Art's second edit-a-thon, hosted on Sunday November 19, 2017 in the Bonnie Sacerdote Classroom, Ruth and Harold D. Uris Center for Education (81st Street entrance) at The Met Fifth Avenue in New York City.

Following the first Met edit-a-thon in May 2017, the museum is excited to work with Wikipedia Asian Month for the potential to seed new articles about Asian artworks, artwork types, and art traditions, from any part of Asia. These can be illustrated with thousands of its recently-released images of public domain artworks available for Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons from the museum’s collection spanning 5,000 years of art. The event is an opportunity for Wikimedia communities to engage The Met's diverse Asian collections onsite and remotely.

10:30 am - 4:00 pm in Bonnie Sacerdote Classroom, Uris Center for Education
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A barnstar for you![edit]

The Special Barnstar
Thank you for championing keeping Cathy Shim's page - of course I wished for another outcome, but I appreciated you alerting about it on the Women in Red page. I wouldn't have found out otherwise. Thank you. SunnyBoi (talk) 12:38, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm grateful for your kind words and the barnstar. The participation was sparse and consensus, such as it was, indicated a lack of unanimity. An actress with a career lasting more than a decade, with over 160 credited film and television roles, certainly deserves a Wikipedia entry and will have it restored in due time. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 22:31, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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In the Heat of the Night cast section[edit]

Roman, please stop changing the cast section on In the Heat of the Night. Your edits on it are too bulky for anyone with smaller computers, including one of my friend's, and they are having a hard time with it. BattleshipMan (talk) 05:17, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

BattleshipMan, I regret that you or your friend are having technical problems but, as anyone who examines the film's revision history can instantly see, the difference between your 06:06, 5 December 2017 edit and the previously-existing text is 191 bytes, which is absolutely negligible. Here are 191 bytes: xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx.
The above amount of text, represented by those 191 bytes, is so minuscule that it would not overburden even the earliest-made computer. Wikitables containing names, dates, facts and figures appear in multi-thousands of Wikipedia articles which can be viewed on any variety of devices and have not, for a few years now, faced criticism of causing "bulk".
Furthermore, as I attempted to explain in my Heat of the Night edit summaries, the current cast list, which you have just restored, is a jumble of cast and character names which does not represent the on-screen form.
Ultimately, however, since all of your complaints have always been about the purported "bulk" of the cast list which I have been submitting in place of the one which you have been repeatedly restoring, that Wikitable cast list can be again easily re-inserted, but with the Wikitable, itself, erased. The proper cast list, with the Wikitable lines removed, would not only compensate for those 191 bytes, but would actually use fewer bytes than the currently-existing cast list. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 06:34, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Wednesday December 13, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

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Thank you, Tenebrae. So kind of you to keep me in mind during this season of remembrance. I am most grateful for your words. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 06:27, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe interesting[edit]

Came by to thank you for inspiring an edit run of the It's a Wonderful Life articles (that 'A' should be probably be capitalized, according to the title screen grab), and, in doing so, resurrected the page of Clarence Odbody, the angel. Pulled it from the river, so to speak. The article has been gone since 2015, when it was deleted in an undiscussed good faith edit and redirected to the film page. If you have time, can you please maybe read, add to, or polish the page? I figure it'll be fun to keep the Clarence the angel page around this time, especially in the spirit of the season (or the season in the spirit). It gets a very nice amount of views per day, which pick up this time of year (and I just created 'Clarence the angel' as a redirect). Thanks, and happy December. Randy Kryn (talk) 02:31, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And I thank you for your thoughtfulness in taking the time to drop me this much-appreciated note. I particularly enjoyed your taking advantage of the opportunity to channel Captain Spaulding in the recent RM. 'Tis indeed the Season to revive Clarence Odbody and Wikipedians owe you additional thanks for returning him to us. I will, indeed, look in on Clarence and see if I can be of any happy and merry assistance. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 03:46, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, you are a gentleman and a scholar. Angels tend to gather this time of year, and you have to scatter them with rough language and a bit of the blarney or you never hear the end of it. In my edit run through Wikipedia's It's a Wonderful Life collection I'm finding that the links to Clarence have never been removed, even in the lead of the film's article, thus fueling, in that instance, a two-year circular link (better than solar paneling in some universes). Randy Kryn (talk) 04:13, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Although an editor has again blanked the page I've brought it back again and added to it. The 1986 musical and 1990 film likely add more detail to the character biography, data which wouldn't be added to the 1946 film page (I've never seen the 1990 film, or what sounds like an interesting 1977 gender-switch version). Randy Kryn (talk) 11:18, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas![edit]

I am happy to receive the greeting. Thank you so much for the thoughts. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 18:08, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Seasons' Greetings[edit]

...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 17:01, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Snow-covered greetings… Very enjoyable… So nice of you. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 18:08, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays[edit]

Happy Holidays
From Stave one of Dickens A Christmas Carol

Old Marley was as dead as a door-nail. Mind! I don’t mean to say that I know, of my own knowledge, what there is particularly dead about a door-nail. I might have been inclined, myself, to regard a coffin-nail as the deadest piece of ironmongery in the trade. But the wisdom of our ancestors is in the simile; and my unhallowed hands shall not disturb it, or the Country’s done for. You will therefore permit me to repeat, emphatically, that Marley was as dead as a door-nail.

So you see even Charles was looking for a reliable source :-) Thank you for your contributions to the 'pedia. ~ MarnetteD|Talk 19:07, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This is a little late as I only got through the first half of the alphabet in my deliveries before heading to sleep. Cheers and thanks for your card! 19:07, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
Always appreciated. Thank you very much. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 18:08, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sunday January 14: Wikipedia Day NYC 2018

You are invited to join us at Ace Hotel for Wikipedia Day NYC 2018, a Wikipedia celebration and mini-conference as part of the project's global 16th birthday festivities. In addition to the party, the event will be a participatory unconference, with keynotes, plenary panels, lightning talks, and of course open space sessions.

And there will be cake.

We also hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

10:00am - 6:30 pm at Ace Hotel, 20 West 29th Street in Manhattan

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Clarence[edit]

A high-five (literally) on saving Clarence from the dust heap of Wikipedia. Your well reasoned research and listing of important sources likely kept away further opposition. To help pull Clarence from the river, hold off those trying to drag him back in, and do this enthusiastically during Christmas week indicates to me that you've already earned your wings long ago. And wasn't it fun! This time we were (and again, quite literally) on the side of the angels. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:57, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am equally appreciative of your gentlemanliness and scholarship. Without your angelic Christmastime initiative, the entire effort would have never gotten off the ground. Like us, Henry Travers was mortal and, at the time of playing Clarence, was approaching the end of his career. Thanks to you, however, and the better angels of Wikipedians yet to come, the links from his Clarence and all future Clarences can now flow to Wikipedia through the next Millennium and into eternity. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 01:05, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia in the next Millennium (Project 3030) will show the Clarence Odbody article in perfect-holographic brain-imprinted form which instantaneously explores a few million points-of-view at once and leaves the reader with total recall of Clarence's own emotions, intents, and the characters own impact on the flow of society (and the negative turns society would have taken if the Wikipedia page had been deleted back in 2017). Randy Kryn (talk) 01:14, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
From your thoughts to the ears of the Universe. To paraphrase Edward R. Murrow, "Wikipedia can teach, it can illuminate, yes, and it can even inspire… but it can only do so if we look after articles like Clarence and keep Clarence's angelic promise. Otherwise, it is just keystrokes floating into the ether". Perhaps the next step may be to rescue and improve The Last Temptation of Clarence Odbody, which was speedily redirected six years ago (January 6, 2012). There's Clarence and Mr. Potter fan fiction, additional fan fiction involving Clarence, as well as other related texts. Projects for the infinite future. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 01:58, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Good finds. If a couple of those articles find Wikipedia residence there soon may be a 'Clarence Odbody' category. Wings all around. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:27, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]