User talk:Ronten5
Re: Gervonta Davis[edit]
Greetings. Mainstream media has referred to Davis as a three-weight champion: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]. However, because of the WBA's Super/Regular title mess, there is dissent and rightly so: [6]. What we cannot do is change the terminology on Davis's page without first discussing the matter extensively at WikiProject Boxing.
There has been prior discussion, even somewhat recently, but nothing conclusive. Such discussion would need to be revisited in order for Davis's article, including many others, to be changed. Plenty of ways to go about it, but discussion comes first. Hope that helps. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 11:47, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- Main stream media refers to Davis as 3 weight champ, because of Floyd and PBC's promotional work. But the main thing is that Davis never fought WBA(super) super-featherweight champion Alberto Machado, he never fought WBA(super) lightweight champion Devin Haney, And he never fought WBA(Super) super-lightweight champion Josh Taylor. So in truth Davis is a 2 divison champion. Ronten5 (talk) 16:00, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- New discussion here. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 16:39, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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Re: Carl froch/WBA[edit]
It does matter what the WBA says, because they're the primary source on their own title. WBA rankings from June 2013, post-Kessler rematch, labelling Froch as "Unified" champion—not "World" (Regular) champion. Likewise WBA rankings from June 2014, post-Groves rematch, still labelling him as "Unified" champion. We have to go by their terminology or else we're not being factually accurate. Their shenanigans otherwise should not be clouding our judgement here. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 17:19, 2 May 2024 (UTC)