User talk:Rozo93

December 2014

Hello, I'm Deadbeef. I noticed that you recently removed some content from Quercetin  with this edit, without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Deadbeef 03:20, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi I edited and added more to the quercetin page but it was deleted as to the part that I deleted it was a mistake sorry about that but why was my information deleted thanks

Rozo93 -- thanks for what I believe are your good-faith edits, but your additions to Quercetin are preliminary, unconfirmed research, not facts, so fall under WP:PRIMARY as not compliant with WP:MEDRS. You should read those guidelines before further editing. Please do not edit war as you have been doing today, or you will be blocked from further participation; see WP:3RR. --Zefr (talk) 04:42, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

So would something like this be better for quercetin's side effects? I've never posted to wiki before and this is for a biology class assignment so I want to get the right format down so my professor can grade me on it. thanks. Quercetin has two major side effects: cell death and reduced neuronal arborization. Cell death was caused in a concentration dependent manner when quercetin was administered to the cells. The higher concentration of quercetin the more cell death there seemed to be. Furthermore, quercetin affects neuronal morphology. At high quercetin doses there are high amounts of arborization in neurons which is lessened branching in the dendritic region. This is problematic because lessened dendritic branches can reduce the amount of communication between neurons and ultimately this could lead to cell death. Jakubowicz-Gil, Joanna, Wojciech Rzeski, Barbara Zdzisinska, Piotr Dobrowolski, and Antoni Gawron. "Cell Death and Neuronal Arborization upon Quercetin Treatment in Rat Neurons." Neurobiologiae Experimentalis 68.2 (2008): 139-46. PubMed. Web. 16 Oct. 2014. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.proxy.bc.edu/pubmed/?term=Cell death and neuronal arborization upon quercetin treatment in rat neurons by J. Jakubowicz>. Thanks for your help.

Ok, I understand your need for coursework and testing, but that is not appropriate to add to Wikipedia. Perhaps if you entitle your report as "effects of quercetin in vitro", you'd be ok in reporting the effects. But no scientist considering all possibilities of what can be interpreted from in vitro studies would assign them to the human condition. Specifically, cell death and neuronal arborization are in vitro phenomena only, not applicable to humans. Best of luck. --Zefr (talk) 05:05, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Rozo93 -- Deadbeef and I have reverted your edits on the quercetin page and discussed them adequately with you here. As a new user, you may not understand that repeated replacement of content that has been reverted by experienced editors is a reason for you to be blocked from further editing; see WP:3RR and WP:BLOCK which apply to you. Rather than my requesting others to be involved with reverting your edits and blocking you, please revert your own edits on Quercetin to the 5 Nov version as I indicated. If you haven't completed this within a day, I will request that you be blocked from further editing.--Zefr (talk) 06:59, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

I did not delete anything again I switched the order, what do you mean by the 5 Nov version? Also, I thought I had edited the sections adequately with proper citations of review articles? Thanks.

You seem to be having difficulty understanding the Wikipedia editing process under WP:MEDRS. The material you're trying to add is not encyclopedic in quality because it is not factual for the human body, but rather is the most preliminary of research that will take many years to advance to human application when it would become eligible for Wikipedia content. To practice your skills to become a reliable Wikipedia editor, please write content drafts in your own sandbox -- live Wikipedia article pages are not for practicing and are not intended as a demonstration of science editing for your biology class assignment (perhaps writing in your sandbox would be sufficient for this purpose). After you practice sandbox writing and follow WP:MOS and WP:MEDMOS, then choose articles to follow until you see the pattern and methods of editing that follow the guidelines. Best of luck. --Zefr (talk) 15:26, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi I am finding new sources at the moment and as soon as i'm done with this I will post it on my sandbox. are you able to to see it so you can give me feedback and if not then can i post it here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.167.195.46 (talk) 20:22, 4 December 2014 (UTC) I'm in the process of finding new sources and will hopefully be able to share them with you soon. i have a new source and i added it on the sandbox all the subsections are information from the same article so i referenced the main subheading assuming that that would encompass the subheadings and their information. heres the link to my sandbox. If you could take a look I would really appreciate it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rozo93/sandbox

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Inhibition of Heat Shock Proteins Quercetin is able to inhibit production of heat shock proteins in many malignant cell lines such as breast cancer, leukemia, and colon cancer. Heat shock proteins allow tumor cells to bypass normal mechanisms of cell cycle arrest by forming a complex with mutant p53 and allows for an increased survival rate of cancer cells under different bodily stresses such as low circulation and high fever. "

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"Inhibition of Heat Shock Proteins Quercetin has been found to inhibit production of heat shock proteins in several malignant cell lines, including breast cancer,39 leukemia,40 and colon cancer.41 Heat shock proteins form a complex with mutant p53, which allows tumor cells to bypass normal mechanisms of cell cycle arrest. Heat shock proteins also allow for improved cancer cell survival under different bodily stresses (low circulation

This level of minimal changes are through the rest of the content you added and is not sufficient. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:34, 5 December 2014 (UTC)