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We are not spammers...

Regarding our previous discussion, you still did not answer my question... what constitutes a notable, credible source? Have you looked at KevinNottingham.com, let alone read one of our reviews?

1) We are award winners. SOHH Online Hip-Hop Award winners http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOHH. Thus, we have been certified, by a "credible website" that we, ourselves, are credible and represent music better than some of the other websites out there.

2) If a website like RapReviews.com, which not only get less hits than us, but has blatantly pathetic reviews, is on Wikipedia, why can't we be?

3) We have interviews from highly credible artists including Akon and Talib Kweli; artist who will vouch for the website as a "credible source," specifically acknowledging our content, our interviews, and our album reviews.

4) We have no interest in promoting our website, in fact, we've made it where we are with zero promotion. We are concerned with educating people HONESTLY about an album or an album's content. While websites like Rapreviews give everything a 10/10 and HipHopDX give everything a 3.5/5, we present a larger scale and fuller, in depth reviews.

5) How are we promoting ourselves though, where Hip Hop DX and such aren't? We actually HAVE cited previous articles with information, especially regarding sample sources of particular hip hop songs that were even once inaccurate.

Once again, I beg to see how we are negative for Wikipedia. We put our link in the Review section because a) it is asked for and b) so people can read the full review. We have gotten some great clicks from Wikipedia turning new readers into big fans of one of the more credible hip hop sites out there. Not only do we have awards to prove it, we have a fan base of over 15,000 hits a day WORLD WIDE, attention from some of the best and biggest artists in hip hop and R&B, and a site owner that is heavily involved in the music industry. It pains me to believe that a site like RapReviews.com is "okay" but KevinNottingham.com isn't. Please, I emplore you to read one of the reviews, check out the site. Then you will see that we have no interest in spamming, instead we wish to improve the knowledge of hip hop.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pan21897 (talkcontribs) 03:54, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

the relevancy of WP:POKEMON

re: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephen Colbert at the 2006 White House Correspondents' Association Dinner (2nd nomination).

since you don't understand the applicability of WP:POKEMON, i'll explain it in terms that even you can understand. WP:POKEMON is an example of why WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS is true. that articles on other crap exist does not mean articles on other crap will always exist. people used to say "we can't delete this article because there are articles on pokemon!". well, there aren't, anymore, as that article very clearly establishes. similarly, "Stephen Colbert at the 2006 White House Correspondents' Association Dinner (2nd nomination)" ought not be cited as precedent for inclusion because there's no guarantee it'll be around forever.

in short, your comments in the afd "are asinine and completely missing the point" (to quote you). i suggest you refrain from participating in afd's in the future until you better understand wikipedia's policies. as is, your closing arguments hold no sway and are in violation of WP:JUSTAVOTE, WP:CIVIL, and WP:AFD. Misterdiscreet (talk) 23:38, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

WP:POKEMON and WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS are interpretations of WP:CCC and interpretations are perfectly valid reasons for deleting articles. want precedent? check out Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephen Colbert at the 2006 White House Correspondents' Association Dinner (2nd nomination). it was closed with WP:SNOW which, itself, is an interpretation of WP:IAR. my suggestion to you, sir, is to stop presuming to know anything about a subject you are clearly ignorant about Misterdiscreet (talk) 21:24, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
i must have missed that part in in WP:CIVIL where it says "thou shalt not disagree with Rwiggum". maybe you could point that section out to me? Misterdiscreet (talk) 21:38, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
you didn't look very hard then. Misterdiscreet (talk) 21:59, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
also, i'm not attacking - i'm defending. someone presents evidence that they believe counters my position and i'll defend my position. if i wasn't prepared to defend my position i have no business making it my position. that doesn't mean i'm not open to compromise, however, as previously demonstrated Misterdiscreet (talk) 22:03, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

You made me work for it... that's for sure. But thank you for requesting te closure. And in noting the removal of the additional reviews, I moved them to the talk page per guideline so they are accessible should anyone wish to glean them for additiona informations. And actually, I believe I will go through the director interviews again, as some of that stuff is quite helpful. It was through the director's own livejournal page that I was given the clues as to where to find some nice sources. Best, Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 16:40, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

re snowball clause

not that I'm interested in getting hung up on this goofy page, but don't you think this revert was a bit extreme? couple of points:

  • it really is an extension of 'not a bureaucracy', and has more in common with common sense, point, and civility than IAR. the snowball clause actually works against 'Ignore all rules'.
  • a lot of the writing in my revisions is just plain better than what was there previously.

read it more carefully and see if you disagree. --Ludwigs2 01:03, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

hmmm... interesting. you've made edits since I left this message (so I know you've seen it), but you didn't respond, here or on the talk page. so I'll revert, and open a discussion on the talk page. see you there! --Ludwigs2 20:27, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of AnimationToolkit

An article that you have been involved in editing, AnimationToolkit, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AnimationToolkit. Thank you.

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I've declined your request for deletion of the Timothy Training Institute per A7. To avoid A7 an article only needs to make a claim at importance/significance. This article clearly does so in numerous places. For example, the claim to serving 2 million people is a claim of significance. The claim of working in 40 countries is a claim to significance. The role of providing training to people who otherwise wouldn't have recourse to formal training is one of importance. Any one of these is enough to avoid a CSD... that does not mean that any of these will protect it from AFD. But it is enough to avoid CSD. For more on this you might want to read Why I hate Speedy Deleters or Field guide to proper speedy deletion.---I'm Spartacus! NO! I'm Spartacus! 19:40, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok, so I have edited the page and included even more info-but I still don't know what would make this page, to be "approved". Why would a page, e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Doors be considered, when the creator didn't even add one reference, yet when I include more info and add references, the page is still flagged for deletion. I accept the fact that you have guidelines and if my page gets deleted, that's fine, but Im having trouble in understanding why...especially when I compare it to other pages...Is it perhaps a matter of private interpretation? Kevincarldavis (talk) 14:08, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Queen Hyde Park AFD

There were too many comments to justify a relist. –Juliancolton | Talk 19:54, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey there Rwiggum, I've asked SJ to explain what he sees in this article that justifies removing the CSD tag. Generally, I am opposed to restoring CSD tags from articles once an independent party has removed it. But in this case, I don't see the reason it should have been removed.---I'm Spartacus! NO! I'm Spartacus! 23:56, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello Rwiggum Can you explain why my page for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nozio was deleted when a similar page exists that has hardly any content or references and in my mind is clearly an advertisement for the company? for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotels.com Travelbrit , also I'm happy to follow your guidelines as long they are applied to everyone or this this not the wikipedia way? thx (talk) 21:06, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Norwegian: Bruker du bleie?

Bruker du bleie? I asking you. Did you know what "bruker du bleie" means? Well, I know it, so I must say: BRUKER DU BLEIE? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bad News Live 1982-87 (talkcontribs) 13:30, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Doornails (song)

That's fine with me, I made that page when I first started with wikipedia. (User: Whoneedspants) 23:55, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

As you made the original nomination for this article, you may be interested in the above. Black Kite 19:11, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

If you have time, I'd appreciate your looking in at Horror film genre-specifc reliable sources and either comment, advise, or contribute. I think something like this should have been a while ago so as to help stop the bickering at AfDs. I figure that by offering a simple article that shows how certain (not all) independent review sites meet guideline, we can perhaps have someplace to look in our checking of source suitability. I have found your discussions at AfD to be inciteful and would much appreciate your input. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 21:47, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi! I see yor thoughts on an expedient

Hi ok well I see your thoughts on the Avril Lavigne Bonez World Tour

ok please check onc egain the page We already put tons of new info, pictures, references, background and well just to see the dates and see that the tour was worldwide means that this was an important tour. I don't think this should be delated pleaseee also imagine all the hard work of puttin the 144 dates one by one that's a hard work anyway the page is gettin each time with more info and it would continue gettin more so it has defenetly to stay

also we decide to create the Avril tours pages because she was one of the only biggest artist that doesn't have it

we promise and I more than anything I promise to continue collaborating with all the best info we find :D BUT PLEASE don't delated I don't think that's fair.

thank you and take care bye —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emmanuel rocks (talkcontribs) 04:05, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

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Instead of getting into an edit war, and also because you provided me with a link to an article which is maintained frequntly, I've decided to message you here.

Template:Infobox_Musical_artist#Past_members states clearly that all former members should be listed under Former Members if the band is inactive.

Which is right and which is wrong? There seems to be a conflict here? »—Mikaytalkcontribs 19:49, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the speedy reply to my message! :D

There does seem to be a fine line here. I went and looked in the featured articles to see the general consensus and there's a discussion about this issue on the Nirvana talk page. The consensus seems to be the way you have said, but there are some valid arguments against the latter.

You're right about SoCo though, I guess if they were to return from their hiatus, they'd return in the form of the "Current Members" list. Interesting discussion though - I think the template probably needs updating. »—Mikaytalkcontribs 20:00, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

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I saw you moved it, but did you see my post on the talk page?I personally think the article should be deleted. Thoughts? --HELLØ ŦHERE 23:35, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

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Your edit: Could you please explain. It was declined without reason. This is an attack page. Personal attacks are serious what is the next step. ANI? IQinn (talk) 03:44, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

I've removed the prod tag from this article as I (strongly) suspect this band meets the notability threshold and I've neutralized the language quite a bit. It still needs sourcing, but it's less bad than before. That said, this may well be a candidate for AfD. I'm not the guy to do it, though, since I would be inclined to vote to keep. Majorclanger (talk) 22:19, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Could use your thoughts

Cheers, buddy. I've recently been working on cleaning up the article on Braid. I rememberd earlier you mentioned that you had read Post by Eric Grubbs. I don't know if you know much about Braid, but I'd appreciate it if you took a look at what I've got so far and give me a little feedback. I havn't gotten the sources punched in yet, but I could use any help you may have there as well, since most of my info comes from Post. Keep up the good edits.Natt the Hatt (talk) 05:47, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I actually went to Amazon and got a copy. It does have a lot of info about a couple of bands. Most of what I have is from that. Now I just need to get a few other sources to round things out a little.Natt the Hatt (talk) 15:02, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I was just looking over the list of members on the Podcasting group and wanted to see if you were still active in the project. If so, it looks like the project could use a little jump-start. In particular, I think notability requirements and assessment guidelines could be added/updated. Please check out the page if you're still interested and move your name to the 2011 active list. Thanks! Udeezy (talk) 23:14, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

RE: There Are Rules assessment

Exist many unsourced statements ("However, after Reynolds left Myspace, he approached the band about self-distributing the album on their own label. The album was released on January 25, 2011 on compact disc, 180 gram vinyl and digital download. The iTunes version of the album came with two bonus tracks.", "One of the most positive takes came from Alternative Press, who gave the album four-and-a-half stars out of five", the personnel and chart performance sections; still missing the commercial performance, a solid WP:LEAD, promotion (if exists), etc. So that's why it is not a B-class article. Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 19:36, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

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The Revolution goes on...

Sorry, the band DOES have an article The Duckworth Lewis Method. There can be a problem finding out because of Duckworth Lewis Method also existing and being a redirect to Duckworth–Lewis method (which is where the band get their name from). Confused? So am I. I don't understand cricket. (I understand American sports even less...) Whether or not the track is notable, I'm not sure. Probably is from the look of things. Whichever, it's not a speedy job. You have to have non-notable AND redlink for A9. (I've linked the group's name, and the track in their article.) Peridon (talk) 20:53, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

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As the concept of a "Pixar Universe" preceded the Negroni thesis by a decade, I seek your opinion about THIS. Thanks, Schmidt, Michael Q. 20:53, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps I can fold my little sourced article into the main topic Pixar and we'd have a suitable redirect target for The Pixar Theory? Schmidt, Michael Q. 22:10, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

The Civility Barnstar
Uggg my mistake on the Kicker (EP) article, I went through all the interviews on Billboard and FINALLY found one that talked about Kicker making it to number 10 on the Billboard Vinyl chart which was all it really needed. The Indie chart that's listed on the bands discography is behind a paywall. Thanks for being chill and responsive, I almost made a really stupid mistake to an important article. You were super cool and professional which I really appreciate. Thanks again! Dr vulpes (💬📝) 01:54, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

@Dr_vulpes Aww, thank you so much for this!! My pleasure! Rwiggum (Talk/Contrib) 03:57, 7 July 2022 (UTC)