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Hello, SAttebery.19, and welcome to Wikipedia! My name is Shalor and I work with the Wiki Education Foundation; I help support students who are editing as part of a class assignment.

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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:00, 9 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright[edit]

Hi, it looks like the reason why the pages were getting deleted wasn't because of a citation error but rather because the article contained content taken from other sites, such as Dr. Lee's personal websites. All content is considered to be copyrighted on Wikipedia unless it's explicitly stated as falling within the public domain or released under a compatible Creative Commons license. This means that even if you include the original source as a citation, it's considered to be a copyright violation if you post the work in a way that suggests that it's your own. In general you can only include very small amounts of text from other sources, typically short quotes that are attributed to the source. I would like for you to review the training module on plagiarism and copyright.

As far as the article goes, my recommendation would be to not take anything content-wise from her websites and instead write a basic framework article in your own words to get things started. One of the harder parts of this will be finding sourcing, since a lot of the coverage for her tends to focus heavily on skin care in general - making her more of someone they brought in to comment on the subject rather than to focus on her specifically. Here's some sourcing I found: Metro, Cosmo, another Cosmo source, Der Standard, Independent, News.com.au.

This should be enough to get you started. If you need help, such as a basic framework to work from, please let me know. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:08, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.

You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Sandra Lee (dermatologist), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. CNMall41 (talk) 04:56, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi - I took a look at the content using my main account and I have to agree that the content was very promotional. Phrases like "Ranging from full-on dermatological procedures to the simple popping of a pimple, Lee has got it covered" come across as marketing "sell" speak so you need to make sure that you take a "just the facts" basis with this. I've gone ahead and made a very basic starter article for Lee. What I want you to do is go in and add in little details, like where she went to school and things of that nature. Please make sure that it's just stuff like "In 2010, Lee did X" and stuff like that - I know that you meant well, but you really need to be careful and avoid writing in a way that persuades the reader to see her in a very positive light.
On a side note, if you like Lee then you should check out Enlisa Brown. The stuff she sees is incredible. Josefa Reina is also good. (I worked in a place where many of my coworkers would bring up these videos to show to everyone else as entertainment.) I would also recommend some of the ear wax cleaning videos, as they're kind of soothing to watch and it's amazing in the same kind of way. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:27, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]