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April 2022

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Happy April Fool's Day! Thanks for your contributions to improve the dissemination of free knowledge to humanity! North America1000 15:26, 1 April 2022 (UTC)


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Help with new infobox.

Hi! I'm trying to make an infobox, and the Wikiproject infobox doesn't seem terribly active. Looking through the list of members, you seemed a reasonable person to bug at random. Sorry. :)

My draft infobox is here: User:PianoDan/Infobox particle accelerator

I've posted it for comment at the Physics wikiproject, and made some changes based on feedback there, but I'm unsure of next steps. WP:IB/Proposed seems to be defunct.

So, assuming the general concept of a particle accelerator infobox makes sense, (it does to ME, but that may not be dispositive) I need to figure out how to do the following, and in what order:

  • Add categories to the infobox, without accidentally adding something in my personal space to lists of categories before moving it into general space.
  • Add coordinates to the examples and the template, without causing the same problem. (cough, again, cough)
  • Move the thing into the general space.
  • Other things that I don't even know I don't know.

Thanks for any help you may have time to provide! PianoDan (talk) 16:57, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Commenting here based on this edit summary (the diff itself fixed your coord issue) - I've moved the ib to the template space (I agree that it's pretty much good to go). As far as cats go, they should be added to the /doc (as it says in the commented-out note) - at the bottom you'll see a {{sandbox other}} call - categories go in there. Primefac (talk) 18:04, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Another talk page stalker adding my two cents - The example shows that it displays well and correctly, so looks pretty good. Some thoughts on infobox classification are Category:Physics infobox templates and Category:Buildings and structures infobox templates. Once you start rolling out, you'll probably get a few people who watchlist the accelerator pages to start adding in some functionality and other fields to the infobox. In some ways, just putting out a functional infobox into articles can be the best way of optimizing it. VanIsaac, MPLL contWpWS 18:35, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
    Thank you both for your help! Much appreciated! PianoDan (talk) 19:13, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
    Argh, something is broken. Specifically the first value after each header (type, energy, and length) do not display, even if given a value. Turning off autoheaders (by blanking the value, not by changing y to n) does not seem to fix the problem. What have I missed? (Template has been added to the Large Hadron Collider and Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider pages. Maybe I shouldn't have gone straight for the biggest one in the world, but I already had the example.) PianoDan (talk) 19:54, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
    Someone fixed it. Even though the example page has "header1" as well as "label1" and "data1", when I did it that way, it didn't work. Sorry to be a pest. PianoDan (talk) 20:03, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
    Fixed. There were conflicting numbers. You actually picked the best case for testing, since it was the most complex. Putting it on the template's /testcases page first would have been safer, but there was no harm done in this case. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:05, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Glad I have talk page stalkers. :-) This all seems to be well in hand.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  12:08, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Feedback request: Language and linguistics request for comment

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Plural vs singular article names

Hey, is there a guideline about singular vs plural article titles? I'm pretty sure Gusans should just be 'Gusan' since it was a role (like Troubadour). I don't know that this would even be controversial, so perhaps a formal RM isn't necessary? Not sure. Best – Aza24 (talk) 00:03, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

@Aza24: Yes, it should be singular, per WP:SINGULAR. We use plurals for things that are almost exclusively named plural in format (scissors, trousers), and for certain other classes of things, like ethnicities and nationalities (when "Foo people" doesn't work), because the article is about them en masse (Semitic people, Aztecs); and in such a case we prefer the singular form when it is also more commonly used as the plural than a -s or -es plural that is also attested (thus Navajo even though "Navajos" is also found in sources). This plurality does not generalize to other things, like occupations and the like (troubadour, astronomer, hero, viscount), or plants/animals (Douglas fir, cougar, Siamese cat). Anyway, gusans is clearly against WP:SINGULAR so should be proposed for a move to something like gusan (occupation)Gusan being a disambiguation page already, and this topic not being the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for that name (doesn't look like there is one, or that page would be at Gusan (disambiguation)).  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  10:29, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for all of this. I'm not even sure if 'gusan' is the most common spelling. I didn't even know the article existed because I was so used to the "gosan" spelling. It appears that in Persia it is referred to as 'gosan' but is 'gusan' in Armenia. Hmm... I will have to look further. Aza24 (talk) 22:45, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

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Feedback request: Society, sports, and culture request for comment

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ByteDance Controversies section

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April

April songs

Easter - resilience - Spring - thank you for improving articles in April - what do you think about Birtwistle? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:41, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

dance and singing, peace doves and icecream the composer looks better than when I wrote last. I wonder if you might be the right person to question the 2010 ban of infoboxes by one project which was cited in the discussion. I'm too involved. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:04, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

"Template:R from changed name" listed at Redirects for discussion

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