User talk:S Banack
Welcome[edit]
Welcome
Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate encyclopedic contributions, but some of your recent contributions, such as your edit to the page Kawasaki Versys, seem to be advertising or for promotional purposes. Wikipedia does not allow advertising. For more information on this, see:
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May 2010[edit]
This is the final warning you will receive regarding your disruptive edits. The next time you insert a spam link, as you did to Kawasaki Versys, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Persistent spammers may have their websites blacklisted preventing anyone from linking to them from all Wikimedia sites as well as potentially being penalized by search engines. Last and final warning for your third insertion of this spam site. Biker Biker (talk) 16:31, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Notability of bike clubs[edit]
A club for a single model of bike is not notable and does not belong on Wikipedia - take a look at WP:ELNO. There are a number of people at Wikipedia:WikiProject Motorcycling who will back me up with that. Why don't you join the project, take a look at the work that is done on motorcycling articles and perhaps consider contributing? --Biker Biker (talk) 07:16, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- "Notability" on Wikipedia has a rather special meaning, in this case it would be more like "encyclopedic noteworthiness". For a number of reasons the Wikipedia community has set up even stricter rules for which external links are appropriate in an encyclopedic article (The guideline page is at WP:EL, if you're interested). It boils down to that if a forum isn't of encyclopedic notability by itself (by having received in-depth coverage in newspapers or the like), they should not be mentioned on related articles, and no links to them should be added to those articles. You can see that in action on the Metallica article, for example, where you will find only two external links to official pages of the band. You can imagine how many forums and fan pages are out there that would like to add their links to the article.
Please remember that Wikipedia is trying to build an encyclopedia, and not a general purpose portal for all things "Kawasaki Versys", in this case. That does mean that you won't find certain kinds of information in the articles. It hopefully means though that the information you will find there is in general of higher quality, with a higher signal to noise ratio. - Long story short: Please don't just add that link back. If you are convinced that it would be highly beneficial for the article, please go to the article's talk page or to WT:WikiProject Motorcycling, start a discussion there, and look for consensus. In the end, the only way to keep a disputed piece of information in an article is to convince other editors here that it is a good idea. If you can manage that, they will support you and make sure that it actually stays in there.
Thanks, and if you have any questions, feel free to ask. Amalthea 17:54, 28 May 2010 (UTC)- Seeing that you went ahead right away and restored your change had me block your account, but it's possible that you just didn't notice my message, so I'm moving it down here. Please discuss this issue. Edit warring over it, where the guideline on external links (WP:EL) is very explicit, is not going to help. As I said, the only way is through a talk page discussion. Amalthea 21:57, 28 May 2010 (UTC)