User talk:SakyaTrizin

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Your recent work in history of Tibet[edit]

Hi. Welcome to Wikipedia. Please use the talk page to propose major changes like changing the titles of articles. Don't just change them yourselves without prior discussion. Thanks. Bertport (talk) 14:53, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, didn't mean to walk over your edit just now. Bertport (talk) 00:10, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Tibet under Yuan administrative rule[edit]

On 28 January 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tibet under Yuan administrative rule, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that during the Yuan administrative rule of Tibet, the Mongol approved d-pon chen, or "Great Administrator", was responsible for the administration of Tibet under the Yuan Dynasty? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 06:03, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed Tibetan naming conventions[edit]

A while back, I posted a new proposal for Tibetan naming conventions, i.e. conventions that can be used to determine the most appropriate titles for articles related to the Tibetan region. This came out of discussions about article titles on Talk:Qamdo and Talk:Lhoka (Shannan) Prefecture. I hope that discussions on the proposal's talk page will lead to consensus in favour of making these conventions official, but so far only a few editors have left comments. If you would be interested in taking a look at the proposed naming conventions and giving your opinion, I would definitely appreciate it. Thanks—Nat Krause^{(Talk!·What have I done?)} 16:20, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Invite to WikiConference India 2011[edit]

Hi SakyaTrizin,

The First WikiConference India is being organized in Mumbai and will take place on 18-20 November 2011.
You can see our Official website, the Facebook event and our Scholarship form.

But the activities start now with the 100 day long WikiOutreach.

As you are part of WikiProject India community we invite you to be there for conference and share your experience. Thank you for your contributions.

We look forward to see you at Mumbai on 18-20 November 2011

DYK for Neolithic Tibet[edit]

On 15 August 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Neolithic Tibet, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the divergence in the Sino-Tibetan language family between the Sinitic languages in China and other Sino-Tibetan languages likely occurred during Neolithic migrations into the Tibetan plateau from the Neolithic cultures of the Yellow River? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template talk:Did you know/Neolithic Tibet.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Add opinion of another editor regarding Tibet[edit]

Hello Sakya Trizin, As a previous editor of the Tibet page, may I request you to refer to the page again under the Demographics section, for another opinion on recent edits? I believe the page may be currently hijacked by pro-communist China whereby there is an attempt to exclude foreign statistics, and to politicise the Dalai Lama by using non-neutralist terms (compare edits by me and two other users, Quigley and Tartanator). Thank you. --Celinabluewick (talk) 17:35, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your viewpoint[edit]

I'd seen some of your edits. What is you view about the Qing Dynasty? What country do your think it was originally founded? ༆ (talk) 19:30, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Qing Dynasty was a sincized dynasty, albeit it was ruled by Manchus. Qing Dynasty considered the country a Chinese entity since the Ming was defeated, as can be seen in several treaties such as s:Convention Between Great Britain and China Respecting Tibet of 1906. --76.65.34.92 (talk) 14:52, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The debate over the sinicization of the Qing Dynasty, and the degree of sinicization, is contentious. Historian Evelyn Rawski argues that the Manchus were rulers, not of a "Chinese empire", but a "multi-ethnic and multicultural regime where the rulers ruled different ethnic groups with different cultural policies." Rawksi asserts that the notion of a "Chinese Qing dynasty" is the product of 20th century Han nationalism used to justify the territorial claims of the ROC, and later, the PRC. Referring to Qing rule over Tibet as either a "Chinese rule" (which is a pro-China POV) or just as a "Manchu rule" creates NPOV issues. The most neutral approach, I think, is to refer to Qing rule as a "Manchurian Qing rule," which sidesteps the POV debates over the Chinese-ness of the Manchus.--SakyaTrizin (talk) 22:12, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Similar to my point: Qing is a Manchurian dynasty/empire and NOT a Chinese one. China distorted history as if Yuan and Qing are China because that is the only way to justify the occupation and domination of Manchuria, Inner Mongolia, East Turkistan, Tibet and even Taiwan. As you can see, Mongolia still exists today, so that is why we know that Yuan is a Mongol dynasty and NOT a Chinese one. If Manchuria (or Manchuko) still survived to this day, EVERYONE would realize that Qing is also NOT a Chinese dynasty, but a Manchu one. So, during the Yuan dynasty, both China and Tibet were parts of Mongolia, and during the Qing dynasty, all Mongolia, East Turkestan, China and Tibet were parts of the Manchu state. So, we should just stick with the idea that saying Qing is Manchu/Manchurian one. ༆ (talk) 23:02, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Era of Fragmentation[edit]

On 7 July 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Era of Fragmentation, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the dissolution of the Tibetan Empire following a civil war led to the Era of Fragmentation, a period of political turmoil dominated by warlords and uprisings? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Era of Fragmentation. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:04, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Soapboxing[edit]

Wikipedia is not a soapbox, a battleground, or a vehicle for propaganda. Please do not continue to make statements such as "China's cultural genocide of Tibet is disgusting"[1] and "all moral Tibetans have resisted against the PRC regime".[2] Statements like these polarize users and cast a pall over your edits. Thanks. Shrigley (talk) 13:27, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom elections are now open![edit]

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