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A barnstar for you!

Pakistani Barnstar of National Merit
Congratulations :)  M A A Z   T A L K  11:59, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Thank you! Ma'az.  samee  talk 13:35, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you ...

... for improving article quality in Febuary 2018! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:36, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Range Rover Evoque

06:26 Samee marked Land Rover LRX as reviewed. Article Range Rover Evoque: User I dream of horses (33,827 bytes) (+5,036)‎ (Reverted edits by Fabian_USA: unexplained content removal. See User talk:Fabian USA#Range Rover Evoque. See Range Rover Evoque: Revision history. Thanks.--Fabian USA (talk) 06:47, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Tea Party requested move

Greetings. I appreciate your attention to the requested move at Talk:Tea Party. However, I think it may have been better to re-list it for further input. As it stands, the low turnout (only four other editors participated) and general lack of policy-based arguments on the "oppose" side should really have resulted in a state of no consensus (see WP:NOTMOVED).

Please remember that consensus is not a vote; besides myself, only one other editor (Shadow007) used any policy-or-guideline-based reasoning at all. I would appreciate it if you revisited your closing statement accordingly. Thank you. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 13:55, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi Sangdeboeuf! I don't think it's compulsory to quote WP:XYZ to indicate that the arguments are policy-based etc. and I am of the opinion that all arguments there were based on policies and it would be inaccurate to say that they weren't based on policies at all. I may have made a mistake and my reassessment might not be equitable. Nonetheless, I appreciate your concerns and suggest you to file a review request at WP:MR. Thank you.  samee  talk 15:19, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Move review for Tea Party

An editor has asked for a Move review of Tea Party. Because you closed the move discussion for this page, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the move review. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 14:57, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello

Helloေနရွား (talk) 14:56, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Highway reverts

Hoping that you can explain why the recent rash of reverts for the highways in Utah, United States was necessary and/or helpful. Prior to your reverts, the existing disambiguation pages were in compliance with disambiguation guidelines. Now it causes hatnote links to the "disambiguation" pages to redirect from their target (disambiguation page) to other pages; pages that, in many cases, should redirect to the original page with the hatnote, not to the disambiguation pages. An Errant Knight (talk) 18:58, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

I don't think I need to give explanation especially when I have asked the same on your talk page. Would you like to explain why was it necessary to copy content from existing disambiguation pages (such as Special:Diff/828520850) and pasting it at titles that were already redirecting there (such as Special:Diff/828520775).  samee  talk 08:28, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
First of all, apologies for not noticing your previously posted question on this users talk page. It went unnoticed as it apparently got overshadowed by another, subsequent comment.
To understand the why you asked about, it must first be understood that, unlike most (if not all) other states, Interstates and U.S. Highways in Utah are by state law defined as state routes. The infoboxes in the articles for these Interstates and most of the U.S. Highways in Utah conveniently specify the applicable section of the Utah State Code (laws) and a hyperlink to it. (If you would like to refute these designations, you are welcome to address the issue with the Utah State Legislature, rather than argue the matter on Wikipedia.) Because of these designations, a significant amount renumbering of the state highways in Utah was required in 1977 to ensure that there were no duplicate route numbers. (Prior to 1977, there was both an Interstate 70 [I-70] and a State Route 70 [SR-70] within the state of Utah. Since 1977, I-70 within Utah has also been legally defined as Utah State Route 70.)
As indicated above, the state route pages for Interstates and U.S. Highways in Utah redirect to the appropriate article for the current and applicable road (at least they did and should have, prior to the reverts). For example, Utah State Route 70 appropriately redirected to the Interstate 70 in Utah article because it is by law "Utah State Route 70". Accordingly, a hatnote was added to the I-70 in Utah article indicating that "'Utah State Route 70' redirects here" (the hatnote has since been removed by another user). However, since there was a Utah State Route 70 prior to I-70 being designated as such and users may be looking for information regarding the former route, the hatnote continued by directing users to the Utah State Route 70 (disambiguation) page. That page then functioned as it should by providing a link to the former SR-70, as well as a brief explanation as to why I-70 in Utah is also considered Utah State Route 70. (At least it did, until it was reverted.)
Following your reverts, there are multiple disambiguation pages that simply redirect, rather than act as a disambigution page ("a non-article page which lists various meanings of [a particular term] and which links to the articles that cover them"). If there is a clear primary topic for a particular term, then the article for primary topic should be either on the main page or the main page should redirect to the article for the primary topic and that article should have a hatnote referring users to the disambiguation page. The main page should not act as disambiguation page. In this case, those who legally determine state route designations in Utah have determined the primary topic for all state routes in the state (even if they are commonly known by another name).— Preceding unsigned comment added by An Errant Knight (talkcontribs)
Thank you for the explanation. What you're saying is that you redirected Utah State Route 70 to Interstate 70 in Utah but what I see is that you redirected it to Utah State Route 70 (disambiguation) (Special:Diff/828520850), effectively we are at the same point. Take another example, you redirected Utah State Route 84 to Utah State Route 84 (disambiguation) Special:Diff/828520283, it's similar to swaping the titles. Your explanation does not address my query. My reverts might not have harmed since they essentially restored the pages to their earlier and long-standing versions. If you're involved with some other editors regarding these changes, you should talk with them and fix them accordingly per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT but if you want to redirect titles such as Utah State Route 70 to Utah State Route 70 (disambiguation), then you should visit WP:RM.  samee  talk 04:13, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Sannan Mahboob

Your reason for declining my biography doesn't seem valid, you can search for the notability of Sannan Mahboob on google,i provided real and appropriate citations for the verification. You should review it ThanksSannanmahboob (talk) 14:53, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

@Sannanmahboob: I did not decline your draft for being non-notable or because I commented it's an autobiography. I declined it because additional citations are needed to verify the claims written in the draft. You may add additional references and help us verify claims and notability.  samee  talk 14:58, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Check for references before accepting additions

Hey Samee, I see you accepted an edit ([1]) on Pakistan Armed Forces which did not have any reference. Can you please be careful in the future when you accept such additions as this plain number inflation. If you are unsure about the edit, you can let some other editor who has experience in the the topic area review the edit. Thanks. Adamgerber80 (talk) 21:00, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing it to attention. I've updated active personnel stats with a reference.  samee  talk 13:02, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

tag

Please look into this article [2] which has more than 20 citations including reliable ones such as BBC, Dawn, Tribune which are leading newspaper dailys. If there are one or two unrealiable sources or there is OR as mentioned in the tags by a user who hasnt replied to on the page's talk page ever since applyinh these tags, the tags should be specifically placed at specific places where the problem lies. To generalise the whole article by placing tags on top of the article affects the credibility of the whole article itself which is unfair (103.228.156.95 (talk) 00:07, 8 March 2018 (UTC))

Sorry I won't be able to resolve the matter for the time being.  samee  talk 13:25, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Provide topics for editing

Hey Samee ! Thank you for inviting me to wiki project for my beloved country.Now ,Can you please suggest me topics for editing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lillyput4455 (talkcontribs) 16:02, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Lillyput4455 it's up to you. You may continue to edit the topics you've been editing.  samee  talk 13:29, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Wikiproject Pakistan

Thankyou for inviting me to wikipedia Pakistan. Can u please tell me how to formally join the wiki project? (Regent007 (talk) 17:51, 8 March 2018 (UTC))

Regent007 It's simple. Join the WikiProject Pakistan by adding your name at WikiProject Pakistan/Members. :-)  samee  talk 13:21, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Done, thankyou once again (Regent007 (talk) 16:56, 9 March 2018 (UTC))

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20:37:24, 10 March 2018 review of submission by Hellinadustcart


If you look at all the other Wikipedia UK ombudsman pages this is the most substantial (It is the biggest) and has the most references. It links to regulators, broadsheet media and academic websites regarding reports. Please can you be more specific about which references are not acceptable and what sentences are promotional? Thank you

Hellinadustcart (talk) 20:37, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi Hellinadustcart. The tone and style of the article are promotional. Lead of the article does not assert the notability partly because it is written in non-encyclopaedic tone. Headings are also not appropriate. The length of the draft does not matter, if the subject is notable and draft is very short I won't shy away from accepting it. I suggest you to go through other similar articles on Wikipedia and also read these policy pages at WP:NEUTRAL, WP:Encyclopedic style, and MOS:PUFF and rewrite your draft accordingly. Thank you.  samee  talk 20:47, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Please could you give me an example of where I have used promotional tone or expressed fact as opinion as I am genuinely at a loss? Also the headings are all the different ombudsman sectors within Ombudsman Services. In effect they could all have separate pages? But it's probably better that they are all on the one? Or I could give each a seprate page as separate ombudsmen? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hellinadustcart (talkcontribs) 21:27, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Your draft starts as The Ombudsman Service Limited trades as Ombudsman Services. It was incorporated on 11 January 2002 as Telecommunication Industry Ombudsman Limited trading as the Office of the Telecommunications Ombudsman (Otelo). it does not assert notability. It should introduce what's it etc. The phrases like has expanded into other sectors, competent authority which, ensures its members etc. are problematic. In short, the first half or particularly, the lead of the draft needs revisions. I suggest you to read similar articles and follow their style.  samee  talk 05:36, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Eagleash. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, East Timor, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Eagleash (talk) 00:16, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

  • Hi, ignore the above. Accidental click! Eagleash (talk) 00:27, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Chris Troutman (talk) 14:39, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

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Request

Hello. Help improve the article Maureen Wroblewitz. Thanks you very much.27.75.126.99 (talk) 10:43, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

20 March, 2018

Hello Friend!Thanks for inviting me to WikiProject Pakistan.I have joined it and Please help me in improving an article Kaghan Valley related to WikiProject Pakistan which has a little information on it.I shall be very thankful to you for this. Regards: User:Shoaib74444 (talk) 11:06 20 March,2018(UTC)

Project Tiger Writing Contest

In 2017 – 2018, the Wikimedia Foundation and Google working in close coordination with the Centre for Internet and Society (CIS), Wikimedia India Chapter (WMIN) and user groups from India, are piloting a program encouraging Wikipedia communities to create locally relevant and high-quality content in Indian languages. This program will (a) support active and experienced Wikipedia editors through the donation of laptops and stipends for internet access and (b) sponsor a language-based contest that aims to address existing Wikipedia content gaps.

Phase (a) has been completed, during which active contributors were awarded laptops and internet stipends. Phase (b) will be a contest in which editors will come together and develop a writing contest focused on content gaps. Each month three individual prizes will be awarded to each community based on their contribution for the month. The prizes worth 3,000 INR, 2000 INR, and 1,000 INR, will be awarded to the top contributors for each month. The contest started at March 1, 2018, 0:00, and will end at May 31, 2018, 23:59 (IST). Useful links are as follows:

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tag

Hey can u pls label the references number 18,24,28 on this page [3]. Thanks! (119.153.58.55 (talk) 15:42, 10 March 2018 (UTC))

Already done by someone.  samee  talk 18:00, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Deletion review for Plan 9 (startup incubator)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Plan 9 (startup incubator). Because you're involved in Pakistani-related articles in recent time so, you're invited to participate to get a thorough consensus. Störm (talk) 07:33, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

New Page Review Newsletter No.10

Hello Samee/Archives/2018, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

ACTRIAL:

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bare url

Can you please fill a bare url of reference #16 on this page [4]. TIA! (119.157.247.169 (talk) 19:47, 30 March 2018 (UTC))