User talk:Shardsofmetal/Archive 2
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You recently reverted my edit to the User firefox template changing the image to a public domain version of the Firefox logo.
- Again, the people behind the Open Clipart Library lack the right to release the image into the public domain.
You state that "It's clearly a derivative work".
- Yes, it is. It's a close copy of a highly distinctive logo.
The image is up for deletion at Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Firefox logo.png. So far, the vote is 3-1 in favor of Keep.
- That's irrelevant. The image can't be voted into the public domain. The "keep" arguments are invalid, and the closing sysop should disregard them accordingly.
If the image is kept at commons, it can be used here.
- If the image is kept at the Commons, it will be due to an error that we have no obligation to uphold.
If you disagree with it's usage, I'd suggest you vote at commons. A couple of points mentioned there:
- It is possible that Firefox released the image into the PD to the Open Clipart library to be distributed with Firefox for software packages that only distribute entirely free material.
- Firstly, "Firefox" is the name of the software. Secondly, Mozilla has done no such thing. Please read their logo usage policy. The icon's globe portion (excluding the fox) is available under three open licenses, but even that isn't in the public domain.
- If somebody contacts the Open Clipart library, and gets them to remove the image, then I will change my vote to delete.
- It makes no difference what they do. They're in the wrong.
- Although it resembles the Firefox logo, it lacks a lot of the detail the real image has, making it able to be available in the PD.
- The law simply doesn't work that way.
If the image is kept after the request has closed, I will change the template back.
- If you do, I'll revert your change without further explanation (and protect the template if necessary). This is a serious, nonnegotiable legal issue (and one that can't be voted away). —David Levy 23:18, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
- I read your reply on my user page. It seemed to me that you weren't very pleasant about this matter. I hope that I didn't seem mean earlier. I'm still wondering, however, how it can be that an image can remain on Wikimedia servers, but can't be used on any pages. Also, can I use this image on my user page, provided it stays? If you respond to my user page, please be nicer than last time. You violated the second rule on my talk page, and Wikipedia:Civility. Shardsofmetal [ Talk • Contribs ] 00:14, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not attempting to be uncivil. I'm simply conveying the reality of the situation. I'm sorry that I'm unable to make that more pleasant than it is.
- The image is not legal, and it should not remain on Wikimedia servers. I'm not telling you this to be rude; I'm telling you because this is a very important legal issue for the Wikimedia Foundation. Again, I'm sorry that I can't sugar-coat this for you. —David Levy 00:27, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- I'm also sorry if I was uncivil at all. It's not your fault, I just got stressed trying to defend an image I uploaded with good intentions. Since the image appears to be a copyvio, and I can't use it on the template anyway, I've done the responsible thing and changed my vote to Delete. I have also decided to take a break from uploading PD images for a while. I uploaded this image with the intent of improving Wikimedia, which it clearly did not do. I hope my next PD image contribution will be a better one. Thanks for your understanding, Shardsofmetal [ Talk • Contribs ] 02:08, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- You were not uncivil. Furthermore, you are not to blame for this situation. I fully understand why you defended the image, and your intentions were never in question.
- This occurrence (encountering an image inappropriately labeled "public domain" by a reputable source) is unusual, and I hope that it won't discourage you from continuing to contribute to Wikipedia and to the Commons. —David Levy 04:47, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Well, I don't mind having that moved to the original author, but the problem is, that lots of people has already updated their userboxes and using the gus solution template to tell them it's been moved again is inappropriate usage. And contacting everyone on that what links here list is just too much for one to do. I think it's best to just leave it there. Feureau 13:01, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Feureau has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!
- Hi! Glad to have made your day, why don't you spread WikiLove too! ;)
- On the topic: well, it's considered impolite to just go in and edit people's userpage. Also, moving the template must involve the deletion of the resulting redirect from the move. That'll cause dead links to appear on people's pages. And that's a LOT of people that'll get effected. With the amount of work and lingering flak, I still think it'd be best to just leave the template there.Feureau 03:36, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
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Thank you for your wishes on my birthday! I really appreciate it :) --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91 06:52, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Re:User:ais523/Sandbox/Clock
The problem was with the Taylor series expansions to the sin and cos functions I was using; as the article says, they don't work very well far from zero (ie times late-night UTC when you pointed out the problem). I've fixed it by changing the time that represents zero from 3:00 UTC to 15:00 UTC (so times can't be as far from zero now) and increasing the number of terms in the expansion. There's now also a new syntax for using it; {{User:ais523/Sandbox/ClockUTC}} for the current time or {{User:ais523/Sandbox/ClockUTC|20|10}} for a specific time (I've left the redirect from Clocknow for now but might request its deletion eventually, so you may want to change over the syntax). Hope that helps! --ais523 16:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- User:Shardsofmetal/Clock looks pretty good! At least on the browser I'm using at the moment (IE), there's an extra blank section just below the clock; I've edited your version to remove it. (Revert me if it breaks anything in FireFox; I don't think it will, but I don't know for certain.) By the way, I have no problem with other people editing 'my' subpages; it's a wiki after all! --ais523 07:27, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
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Deleting your userpage
You have exactly one edit to the page User:Shardsofmetal/Sandbox/Accessable Userpage, which is covered with templates requesting {{db-author}} deletion. Do you really want this deleted, or is it a mistake? --Ginkgo100 talk · e@ 22:02, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
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Great work! One of my favorite designs. Koweja 02:10, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
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I figure I will use this template while I still can! – Heaven's Wrath Talk 18:37, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello, Shardsofmetal. An automated process has found and removed an image or media file tagged as nonfree media, and thus is being used under fair use that was in your userspace. The image (Image:Rocktopus - Instant Live.jpg) was found at the following location: User:Shardsofmetal/Sandbox. This image or media was attempted to be removed per criterion number 9 of our non-free content policy. The image or media was replaced with Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg , so your formatting of your userpage should be fine. Please find a free image or media to replace it with, and or remove the image from your userspace. User:Gnome (Bot)-talk 08:26, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
