User talk:SlaineMacRoth

Bono

Hello! I slightly cleaned up your otherwise well-written addition to Bono article. Cheers!--Chalyres 02:56, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi. No problem with the change. I can see how not mentioning the other artists might result in a more drastic re-edit. SlaineMacRoth 22:17, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Nobel Prize in Economics

One of the core polices on Wikipedia is verifiability. It says: Material challenged or likely to be challenged, and all quotations, must be attributed to a reliable, published source. Your edit on Nobel Prize in Economics doesn't satisfy that criteria. You say that "Many critics claim the prize has a neo-liberal bias", but that is not supported by source you had provided. Same goes for your edit on Ha-Joon Chang‎. You claim that he is influential and one of the world's foremost heterodox economists but you have no a reliable, published source for that claim. -- Vision Thing -- 20:42, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm aware of the verifiability policy. The numerous links and details later on in the Chang article make his prominence and influence clear and they more than ably back up the initial statement. If anything the article is too well sourced. SlaineMacRoth 21:04, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, article is not well sourced. All five sources are web pages which don't say a word about Ha-Joon Chang's influence. -- Vision Thing -- 18:08, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

With regard to you changes and your accusation that the sources "don't say a word about Ha-Joon Chang's influence" The article says,"Chang is the author of several influential policy books," and "one of the world's foremost heterodox economists specialising in development economics." The influence of these books is apparent from the article, which links to same in either summaries, or lists of same in the reference section. The article explains how he worked as a consultant for the World Bank, the European Investment Bank, (and now the Asian Development Bank but this was linked via the CV etc) Oxfam and various United Nations agencies, is a fellow at the Center for Economic and Policy Research in Washington, D.C and is "also famous for being one of the crucial academic influences on the economist Rafael Correa, currently President of Ecuador." Which is also linked to in an article as is a South Centre publication supported by Oxfam International and a UN development report.

So I think it's fair to say that the initial statement is correct. Eitherway I've tidied up the reference section and added a link to the CEPR which surmises the point well.

" Ha-Joon Chang (Ph.D., University of Cambridge) has taught at the Faculty of Economics, University of Cambridge since 1990. His most recent books include Kicking Away the Ladder – Development Strategy in Historical Perspective (2002), which is the winner of the 2003 Myrdal Prize, Restructuring Korea Inc. (with Jang-Sup Shin, 2003), Globalization, Economic Development and The Role of the State (2003), and Reclaiming Development – An Alternative Economic Policy Manual (with Ilene Grabel, 2004). Ha-Joon Chang has worked as a consultant for numerous international organisations, including various UN agencies, the World Bank, and the Asian Development Bank. He is the winner of the 2003 Gunnar Myrdal Prize and the 2005 Wassily Leontief Prize. " SlaineMacRoth 01:03, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

As regards your Nobel point. I've re-edited that edit and included links along with a mention that the award has gone repeatedly to the Chicago School, which is a strong indication of bias. It is well known that there is critique of a bias favouring right-wing economics, i.e. only a few neo-Keynesians are amongst the winners while other great Keynesians are blackballed. But getting into all of this is perhaps over-long for this section. Therefore the edit should remain in this criticism section, imho. SlaineMacRoth 21:04, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

• Regarding the following text that User:128.111.225.205 and User:Vision Thing removed from the Nobel Prize in Economics article:

Many critics claim the prize has a neo-liberal bias. The Chicago School of Economics has garnered eight Nobel prizes. Assar Lindbeck was the chair of the selection committee from 1980-1994 and was on the committee since its inception in 1969. He has advocated drastic cutbacks in Sweden's welfare state and has attacked Sweden's attempt to have "capitalism with-out capitalists". Like Friedman he favours the introduction of a voucher system in education. He has also worked with Michael Walker, founder of the right-wing Fraser Institute in Canada, and Gary Becker and Friedman in constructing an 'Economic Freedom Index'.

I have no opinions about it except that it could use some editing. "Many critics" is kind of dubious since none have been cited. Also, it's not clear to me how the text shows there is a neo-liberal bias to the prize. However, this article does explains this bias. It would be great if you could clarify this issue in the article. –panda 00:50, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok panda I've added that link along with other citations to back up the argument. Will continue this on the talk page. SlaineMacRoth 18:30, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I've left a comment for you in Talk:Nobel Prize in Economics#neoliberalism and the prize. (And I fixed your references since they weren't formatted properly.) –panda 19:00, 18 October 2007 (UTC)