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List of female chess players

If you continue to edit war to re-add the misplaced timeline section to list of female chess players I will ask an administrator to intervene and you may face sanctions. As explained many times, this timeline does not belong in this list article because the timeline is not a list of female chess players. It can go in Women in chess or you can create a separate timeline article for it. Quale (talk) 08:35, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I see now that an attempt to move this material to women in chess was deleted. I think that was an error and I have restored it to that article. I will try to defend it if further attempts are made to remove it from women in chess. It needs improvement, but in this case deletion is not improvement and in fact makes it harder to improve. Quale (talk) 09:49, 5 January 2021 (UTC)


It seems highly improbable that an editor with your experience is not already aware of the policy on edit-warring, but just in case you aren't, here is a link to the policy, and here is a brief summary of its main points:

"Edit-warring" means repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. Editors who engage in an edit war may be blocked from editing.

Please make sure you don't continue to edit in violation of the policy on edit-warring, as you have been doing. JBW (talk) 21:51, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

JBW, if you say, "HAving a brief introduction to a list to give it context is one thing", then add back the article's old introduction. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 22:42, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Whether it's old or not is totally irrelevant. It is, however, relevant that there is an unambiguous consensus now that it should be removed. JBW (talk) 22:56, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

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Transformative (Lenglen)

Yep, that looks good as far as justifying that tag. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:25, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Lenglen FAC

Hi Sportsfan77777

Sorry to see that the Lenglen FAC didn't pass. It seems to be indicative of a general problem with FAC these days, that articles that are basically FA class end up failing due to lack of attention. This process should be at least somewhat formulaic - if your article's good enough, it passes; if it's not good enough, you fail. It shouldn't just be at the whim of whoever happens to show up. Anyway, best of luck with it going forward and needless to say I'll reaffirm my support (assuming the article doesn't change drastically!) whenever you bring this back to FAC. Just ping me on my talk page, because I might not spot it. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 09:51, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Likewise, sorry I didn't get to reviewing it: my style of review is discouraged and dealing with a couple of individuals at FAC have made me quite ill lately. But I hate to let you down, so as Amakuru says, next time you nominate, let me know and I'll pop by, for what it's worth. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:35, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Two should be written out?

In your edit at Alexander Zverev you mentioned in your summary that two should be written out. I'm not sure that's true and you'll have to check MOS. My recollection is the numbers 1-10 should usually be spelled out and 11-infinity should usually be left as numbers, but when multiple numbers are used in a single sentence their styling should be consistent. So it should be "Zverev has won 13 ATP titles in singles and 2 in doubles", or "Zverev has won thirteen ATP titles in singles and two in doubles." You'll have to double check on that or I will if I remember tomorrow. Cheers. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:46, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

That's for something like a sequence (i.e. you wouldn't do something like "eight, nine, 10, 11"). If it's separate clauses, that doesn't necessarily apply (i.e. He scored 29 points while also recording three assists.). In-between cases are more of a stylistic choice and depend on how exactly the whole sentence is written. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 07:22, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
I found it in MOS/Dates and numbers. "Comparable values should be all spelled out or all in figures, even if one of the numbers would normally be written differently: patients' ages were five, seven, and thirty-two or ages were 5, 7 and 32, but not ages were five, seven and 32." It does not only apply to sequences or it would say so. Other style guides appear to agree.
  • Consistency Is Key When Using Numbers in Your Writing. Similarly, if a single sentence combines small and large numbers, make sure that all the numbers are either spelled out or written as numerals.
  • Incorrect: The library acquired five new mystery novels, 12 new desktop computers, and 17 new periodicals.
  • Correct: The library acquired 5 new mystery novels, 12 new desktop computers, and 17 new periodicals.
I also found:
  • Some Exceptions to the Number Rules: When numbers are part of a pair or series of comparable quantities, be consistent in your presentation-either spell them all out or write them all as numerals. Usually, numerals are more understandable. For example: There were 3 children in the car and 10 in the van.
I only noticed your change because it looked strange to use two different styles in one sentence and I seem to recall being told here at Wikipedia to be consistent if possible. Fyunck(click) (talk) 09:39, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Okay, I looked back and originally I had both numbers written out. I could change it back to that. Still, it is typically possible to write out these types of sentences so that the guideline doesn't apply. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 00:11, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Qiyu Zhou

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Sportsfan77777, you opened this GA review back on February 18, and have yet to return to it. Are you still planning on doing the review? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:18, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi BlueMoonset, I intend to do the review! Though I admit, I'm behind on things as a result of taking on a bit too many reviews at once. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:31, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, that lighter shade has been set as default to improve the contrast and in general the accessibility for users with bad eyes like mine, and also because it's nearer to the tennis ball color. I won't revert your edit, anyway. Thanks Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 22:35, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

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FIDE title application

Hi! I am currently trying to expand the Eric Rosen page, and I want to add more detail on his achieving of IM title. I see that in the Nemo Zhou article (which I think you wrote?) one source is a scanned application form for her title, with her norms listed. How and where did you find this, and is it available for other players? Many thanks, DansterTheManster (talk) 22:23, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi DansterTheManster, you can find all of the title applications here. If you go to Eric Rosen's FIDE profile, it will say which congress granted the title, and then you can search for that congress on the title application page. I see that Eric has four norms listed. Admittedly, I don't know why. Probably only the first three were necessary. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 23:00, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
If you were looking for the pdf specifically, someone else had added that. I'm not sure how they found that or if it's available for other players. But most of the same information is available on the webpage anyway. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 23:00, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

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Just finished leaving comments on Jannik Sinner. Great start! Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 20:50, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

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Manon Melis review

Hi - Is Talk:Manon Melis/GA1 still on your radar? Hmlarson (talk) 19:54, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, was just finishing it up. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 08:36, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Arsenal Women 11–1 Bristol City Women

Hi Sportsfan77777, I just wanted to draw your attention to the fact that I have brought back the Arsenal Women 11–1 Bristol City Women article as Featured Article Candidate. You previously reviewed it and supported it at FAC, but unfortunately it was archived shortly after. I have since put it up for Peer Review and 3 reviewers improved it and thought it is ready to be brought back, which I just did. I also approched contributor PeeJay, who indeed kindly added a match line-up diagram, as per your suggestion. I hope you will still support it, but please comment in any case. Thanks, Edwininlondon (talk) 12:26, 25 April 2021 (UTC).

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Gunay Mammadzada

Hello. Recently, you've expanded many articles covering female chess players to good article (GA). May I ask you, can you please expand the article about Gunay Mammadzada, the greatest female chess player of Azerbaijan who is in the 25th in the worldwide listing, to GA? I've expanded the article to GA on the Azerbaijani Wikipedia, and that version of the article can help you here. Sincerely.--Nicat49 (talk) 22:17, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi Nicat49! Yes, I'm familiar with her; I can work on her article next. I'll take a look at what you wrote up as well, that should help! I'll get to it in August probably. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 07:23, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I think I've addressed your concerns, can you take another look at the article? Many thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:00, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

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Proposed Women in Green Editathon

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FAC: Manon Melis

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Hi Edwininlondon, sure, I'll get to it! In the meantime, also ask Lee Vilenski and/or Amakuru to review it. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 01:00, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

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Raducanu, Canadian

We have always handled players like Garbiñe Muguruza as dual nationalities. I'm wondering what's different about Emma Raducanu? Or even putting in Canadian-born? Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:21, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Raducanu is more like Denis Shapovalov, who was born in a different country (Israel) to parents who aren't even from that country and he also didn't live in that country past when he was a baby. Her heritage is probably more important than her birth country, although neither is important enough for the first sentence of the lead. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 00:00, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
Also, for what it's worth, I would write Muguruza as a "Venezuelan-born Spanish tennis player" instead of what it currently says. That would be in line with solving the usual issue of she is "Venezuelan" and she is a "tennis player", but she is not a "Venezuelan tennis player". Sportsfan77777 (talk) 00:00, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

"Journalistic" sources

Just curious about a topic/idea, not necessarily having to do with the Emma Raducanu article.

I know that a lot of people rely on "news" sources for their "facts", but journalism is published under deadline pressure (unavoidable as that is the nature of its existence). Yet precisely because of deadlines, journalism often has errors, from simple typos and (good faith) mis-analysis to outright factual errors.

Why wouldn't a register or database, which is regularly updated and corrected, be better than a journalistic source? By the way, things have gotten worse in the Internet era. Many outlets don't even bother correcting mistakes, much less publishing "Corrections of Error" anymore.

Just picking your brain. Thanks! Posters5 (talk) 05:30, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Posters5, read WP:BLPPRIVACY to see when it is permissible to include someone's name or full name. Read WP:RELIABLESOURCE or what counts as a reliable source for the type of sources that can be used. It's not really "journalistic" per se as I said, but more like it has to be published. It's not a question of accuracy or reliability. Personal information requires higher-quality sources than other types of information. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 05:49, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
You can use those registers/databases to help guide us that maybe the sources that give her father's name as Ion might be more accurate than the ones that say Ian. But even then, if sources continue to call her father Ian over the coming days/weeks/months, then we would still write his name as Ian (because we use a person's WP:COMMONNAME in the media, which is not necessarily their birth name). Likewise, we wouldn't include Catlin if it never appears in a WP:RS or is difficult to find. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 05:49, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
I totally understand. However, it's unlikely that someone whose name is pronounced "Yon" would suddenly let people call him "Ian". This is what I wrote on the Raducanu Talk Page: "The Romanian name "Ion" is pronounced "Yon", which by the way, is how "Jon / John" was written back when there was no letter "J". Even if "Ion" were to use an Anglicized nickname to make it easy on the people he meets, it'd most likely be "Jon" or "John" instead of "Ian". "Ian" is a typo by "news" and "media" outlets who thought they were clever when they pilfered what little biographical information they could find online, and if you look closely, most articles are ripping off the LTA profile anyway. Again, LTA is an organization that has followed Raducanu for years, long before she became the latest media darling."
By the way, I understand the need to enforce people following Wiki policy, but as I have mentioned on the Talk Page, I've seen errors stay live on Wikipedia for years because some editors worship policy over accuracy. Just to give you an example, a celebrity's ongoing education was listed with the wrong major just because an editor preferred a teen fashion magazine over the TV news station's YouTube channel. YouTube should not be a go-to source, but this was an unedited, live news clip with the celebrity being interviewed in the studio, right in front of the news anchors. Posters5 (talk) 05:58, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
Something else came to mind--why is journalistic intrusion of privacy acceptable, whereas a public government database isn't? (This is with regards to Raducanu's mother's Chinese name, which appears in a couple of news articles but isn't commonly mentioned.) Posters5 (talk) 06:36, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

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Just to clarify...

At "RFC on dash-separated titles for sports events", if you want "do nothing" wouldn't that be C and E rather than B and E? Just making sure. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:21, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

  • I meant B (e.g. "Men's singles") or E ("Men's Singles" for us, but whatever the default is for the other projects). I'd prefer e.g. "Men's singles", but definitely not "men's singles". The current e.g. "Men's Singles" is fine. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 03:44, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

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