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Damwon[edit]
Do not change to "DAMWON" per WP:TMRULES policy, just like we dont use "SONY", "ASUS" etc. despite those being "official" stylizations, only accronyms can be in all-caps. There are also many highy-reliable sources like Korea Herald, Korea Times, Forbes etc. that uses "Damwon". Snowflake91 (talk) 12:10, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
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Nomination of List of international cricket centuries by Azhar Ali for deletion[edit]
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Nomination of List of international cricket five-wicket hauls by Tim Southee for deletion[edit]
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Störm (talk) 07:44, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
bruh I honestly don’t care what you do with this article SpyroeBM (talk) 08:32, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
FIDE ratings[edit]
Hi – thanks for your correction at Champions_Chess_Tour_2021#FTX_Crypto_Cup – and for setting up that section in the first place! The ratings weren't actually the classical ratings, they were just wrong. They were introduced by this anonymous edit. The same IP also made another wrong change (here and here, swapping the names, countries and ratings of two players but not the rest) – I'd corrected that one but missed this one. Hope everything is back in order now... Joriki (talk) 03:56, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Alireza's flag[edit]
Hi – thanks for reverting my ill-advised change with the FIDE logo – I didn't realize it's copyrighted. I wrote on Talk:Champions Chess Tour 2021 because I don't think displaying the Iranian flag instead is an appropriate solution. I'd appreciate your input there. Joriki (talk) 05:12, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Consistent boldface in Champions Chess Tour 2021[edit]
Hi – I made a series of edits to Champions Chess Tour 2021 to make the use of boldface consistent. This edit you made reintroduced inconsistencies, and I'd like to understand your intention in making it.
- On the markup level, I replaced the different forms of boldfacing (HTML tags, triple quotes on both sides, or just initial triple quotes) by a single form. I chose initial triple quotes just because they're the easiest to type. If you have a preference for HTML tags, please explain and I'll be happy to switch everthing to HTML tags; it would just be good to have the same markup throughout the article, and you switched to HTML tags just for one tournament.
- On the content level, I removed some boldface for the reasons I explained on the talk page. Your edit reintroduced some of that boldface, but again only for one tournament. If you disagree with my reasoning, please discuss this on the talk page. Joriki (talk) 05:26, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Your reversion[edit]
Hi – your reversions at Champions Chess Tour 2021 are wasting a lot of time and effort. Please stop. The reasons for the unbolding have been on the talk page all along, and I also went to the trouble of writing to you here on your talk page. You haven't stated why you disagree with my reasons for the change, neither here nor there. It's not acceptable to simply keep reverting without engaging in discussion. If you disagree, please say why, and then we can perhaps find a solution together. Reverting solves nothing. You also keep reintroducing inconsistencies, since you're only reintroducing the boldface for inconclusive results for some tournaments but not for others. Joriki (talk) 16:06, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
July 2021[edit]
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Notes on five wicket haul tables[edit]
Don't forget that we're writing for a general audience, not a specialist one. So, for example, noting that fiver wickets were taken in the 2nd and 3rd innings due to a follow on being enforced is something that, if the information wasn't in a note, might lead to confusion - how can a player from the same team take wickets in consecutive innings, for example? Blue Square Thing (talk) 18:49, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
year parameter for FIDE Women's Grand Swiss Tournament 2021[edit]
Hi – I'm wondering why you removed the year parameter in the infobox at FIDE Women's Grand Swiss Tournament 2021? I more or less copied that infobox from FIDE Grand Swiss Tournament 2021. If you had a good reason to remove the parameter, you might want to remove it there, too. Joriki (talk) 10:04, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi – Had removed the year parameter as that has been done for all the FIDE Chess World Cup and FIDE Grand Prix articles, but will remove it from both articles along with the year parameter in the FIDE Grand Swiss Tournament 2019 to add formatting consistency. Thanks for pointing it out and have a good day.
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I'm n00b. Are tiebreaks meant to just be combined with regular score please?[edit]
Re Anish vs Nodirbek, I could've sworn I saw others they do like... Hmmm...Wait lemme find
ah like this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Chess_Championship_2016
they do 6 (3) vs 6 (1). or meltwater
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champions_Chess_Tour_2021#FTX_Crypto_Cup
? Thewriter006 (talk) 10:09, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Probably better to do the Meltwater style, having the 2 numbers in the box might be a bit messy in my opinion. SpyroeBM (talk) 18:30, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
- ayt thanks! Thewriter006 (talk) 15:47, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
- though not that anyone really cares about 9LX...i'm lazy to do the 2 boxes of meltwater lol. you think it's ok to just do your style of combining?
- Update: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:FIDE_World_Fischer_Random_Chess_Championship_2022#can_we_just_do_a_new_style_for_the_tiebreaks_at_least_for_the_qualifiers?
- Thewriter006 (talk) 15:49, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
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English is a nationality[edit]
Hi. Please don't change English to British without good reason. English is not an ethnicity (I assume that's your concern, although you haven't explained as such in your summaries) but a nationality. Ethnicity would be Anglo Saxon/Celtic or similar. If the subject is English, it's fine to describe them as such. NEDOCHAN (talk) 11:53, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
List of international cricket centuries by Virat Kohli[edit]
Hello. I saw you reverted the edit stating that it ruins the display of the table. How does that affect so ?. I saw the same thing on this article List of international goals scored by Lionel Messi, and getting inspired by that, did the same thing here. If it can be kept their, why its a problem for you with following the same thing on this centuries article. Kindly discuss, Thank you.
✨Ashish Legend✨
19:21, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
✨Ashish Legend✨
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✨Ashish Legend✨
19:21, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
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✨Ashish Legend✨
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Hello Ashish 1816,
The use of different colours (i.e. red, green, etc.) would be useful in the case of that article that you linked, as to a general reader having that as a visual guide to the scores would be helpful to indicate whether Argentina won or not, however there aren't any numbers in the centuries tables, as there is either a "Win, "Loss", "Draw", or "Tied" regarding a result of a cricket match.
To give you a simple example, adding the colours in this case is like a person writing notes with different coloured highlighters and pens, sure it looks very pretty and everything, but it isn't necessary as whether you use a black pen or a coloured one, you're just writing notes at the end of the day. What I'm trying to say is that having the colours next to the result doesn't significantly improve the table, as the terms used to describe the results are simple enough to not need a key like the Argentina table. With the white color of the tables, it is off-putting and unnecessary to add the different colours.
Using colours in tables, such as the List of cricketers by number of international centuries scored is relevant and useful, as it differentiates to the reader who is currently playing, in the ICC Hall of Fame, and who is not playing internationally anymore. Your inclusion of the colours, in my opinion, isn't useful in this situation.
Furthermore, the tables used in all cricketer's centuries pages (such as Kohli, Root, Azam and etc.) are all the same, which should be maintained in order to keep a universal format, hence you just changing the colours of the results for Kohli's page doesn't help keep the same format which other editors are trying to maintain and improve. Also, you mentioning that we should "Now say thank you to me for this 🙂" after you making that edit without consulting the talk page, makes it more challenging for editors to maintain the page despite the heavy traffic it receives after Kohli scores a century, and quite frankly the comment is extremely arrogant and disrespectful.
With all due respect, I appreciate you trying to help Wikipedia and the cricket section, as we need good editors to help update the stats, but please consult the talk page before you make any drastic edits, and to conclude, please do not add the colours to the page.
Thank you and have a nice day. SpyroeBM (talk) 23:53, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- Okk I got your point. Thanks for this explanation, and your time to reply. Btw, "Now say thank you to me for this 🙂", here I was just trying to be humorous as I assumed myself to have made a good edit, probably not now. Apologies from my side, I had no intentions to be be disrespectful.
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March 2023[edit]
Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Ultimate Fighting Championship, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Thank you. CycloneYoris talk! 06:44, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
Please stop. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Merab Dvalishvili, you may be blocked from editing. Cassiopeia talk 10:51, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Alright man chill don't need to get so emotional about it. Will try to do better in the future. SpyroeBM (talk) 10:57, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- It is not emotional but to let you know what you have done and pls follow Wikipedia guidelines and if you have any questions or need assistance, pop by my talk page as I am here to help. Cassiopeia talk 22:47, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
Discussion at FL nomination[edit]
Hi. I noticed that you have many active contributions in cricket articles, especially which are related to cricket lists or records. There is a featured list nomination for List of ICC Men's T20 World Cup five-wicket hauls here. Since you are active in this kind of sector, I welcome you to participate in the discussion and express your opinions, or give review. Thanks. RoboCric (talk) 15:39, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Whittaker[edit]
Hi SpyroeBM, saw your ping but dont have time to read the issue as I am heading out to the city and would be back late tonight. Will read the discussion and will response but at the mean time, just leave the edit as it is first. Be safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 23:21, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
Hi Cassiopeia, thank you for the quick response, I look forward to your input. SpyroeBM 11:31, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
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Flags in the infoboxes of international competitions[edit]
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Obviously the less detailed parts of the manual of style such as this excerpt can be interpreted differently from editor to editor. I would argue, as others have before me with similar articles on more well-known competitions (such as FIFA and the Olympics listed above), that there is utility in easily identifying where each competitor is from in an international competition, especially if it is not obvious from their name(s).
Some of the flags you removed were next to venue locations; I fully agree they were cruft and was careful not to revert any of those changes. There is no utility in putting the South Korean flag next to the words "Seoul, South Korea" (
Seoul, South Korea) because no additional information is conveyed in the context they are written in. However, putting the South Korean flag next to "Samsung Galaxy" ( Samsung Galaxy) can tell readers in a compact visual manner that the team is from South Korea, something they may want to know in the context of an international competition. Yue🌙 21:24, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
Response[edit]
@Yue:
- Please refer to my points on the MSI 2023 talk page for my full explanation about the flags. Most importantly, I am arguing that although esports is a global event, the teams do not officially represent the countries involved (for example T1 is based in Korea, have Korean players, but are playing to represent T1, not Korea in an official capacity).
- Furthermore, the FIFA World Cup, Olympics, and Asian Games argument about having the flags is a completely different story, as there can only be one team from South Korea for example that participates in those events, but in esports events there are up to two or three teams that can come from the Chinese and Korean region and etc, so it gets to the point where the flags being littered in the article becomes a focal and nationalistic point, which shouldn't be the case.
- Also, if esports events like MSI and Worlds are "international events" as you have mentioned, then Taiwanese teams should be using the Chinese Taipei flag and term, as that is used in internationally recognized competitions, which esports events are not (barring the Asian Games League event) as they are global events only.
- Also flagrelevance states that for G2 Esports and the EU flag, which only represents Europe but doesn't represent the European Union as an entity:
| “ | In sport, supranational flags should only be used to represent a supranational team or a supranational competition, where the team or competition use the supranational flag | ” |
- This issue has been clear cut and dry in other articles relating to Valorant, Counter Strike: Global Offensive and Dota 2 esports events, as the flags have been omitted from the article as the article should highlight the team that wins the event, not the country that wins the event.
- So I ask again, can there be a general consensus about this issue, as frankly I believe flags should mostly be removed from esport articles as they contribute nothing of value, and if readers are interested in the nationality they can always click on the wikilinks of the teams, but it shouldn't be emphasized in esports articles as it is distracting as well. SpyroeBM (talk) 08:04, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
Hikaru Nakamura birthname[edit]
Oops, when I looked at your edit I missed that you had cited WP:BLPPRIMARY. If I had noticed this I would not have summarily undone.
Earlier discussion of his birthname can be found in Talk:Hikaru Nakamura#Birth name and Talk:Hikaru Nakamura#Birth name, again. These may have been written without due consideration of WP:BLPPRIMARY. That policy doesn't explicitly mention birth name, so I am not absolutely sure it applies, but it is reasonable to bend over backwards to avoid violating BLP. Would it be correct, do you think, to cite the chess.com article that reproduces the lawsuit document, rather than citing the lawsuit document itself? Bruce leverett (talk) 03:56, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for finishing off my work - I appreciate it. I was wondering about the balls column in ODIs, though: I got it from List of international cricket centuries by AB de Villiers, which is a featured list (though I note it isn't in List of international cricket centuries by David Warner). It was the same with the extended key. StAnselm (talk) 14:17, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @StAnselm, all good. Thanks for rebooting the page, to my memory the page had been created before but because De Kock scored less than 25 centuries it was deleted so glad to see it back up. Regarding the balls column, you know that some articles have it and other don't so it's hard to give a concrete and right answer to that. Some prominent century pages (e.g. Virat Kohli and Sachin Tendulkar) don't have the balls section so when I was cleaning some articles I had removed the balls section for consistency.
- In my opinion I'd leave it out as seems a bit distracting to have the runs and balls section together, also as the Test centuries don't contain the balls section it seemed more suitable to remove the balls section altogether in the grand scheme of things where the balls section seems secondary compared to the amount of runs, location of century and etc. Hope that answers your question and have a good day. SpyroeBM (talk) 11:57, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
- Sure - thanks. de Kock only got to 25 centuries in this current World Cup - I thought that qualified him for a list, but now I see that a few such lists had been deleted. I have gone ahead and restored List of international cricket centuries by Desmond Haynes. StAnselm (talk) 13:52, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
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December 2023[edit]
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Re: tone on Valorant article[edit]
Hi there, I'm confused regarding your tone on your edit for 2023 Valorant Champions and I feel like it's targeted towards me - no changes to flags have been made since your last edit? Those flags were there when you removed the flags from the Infobox and you chose not to remove them. I understand your reasoning and intent but please do ensure in the future that your anger is well deserved :) daylon124 (talk) 03:37, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @daylon124,
- Thank you for bringing that into attention and sincerest apologies if you felt that the edit wording was targeted specifically towards you, that was not my intention at all. Flags have been a contentious point on these articles, so when people add them back repeatedly it becomes a little frustrating hence the tone, but regardless you make a fair point and once again I wholeheartedly apologize if it came across in that manner. Have a nice day. SpyroeBM (talk) 08:55, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
I reverted your change to the lead of this article. Whilst you are correct that "PRIME" should appear as "Prime" throughout the article, "stylized as" in the opening sentence is an exception - see MOS:TMSTYLE. Dorsetonian (talk) 07:22, 12 February 2024 (UTC)