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Happy Saint Patrick’s Day!

On behalf of the Wikipedia:Kindness Campaign, we just want to spread Wikipedia:WikiLove by wishing you a Happy Saint Patrick’s Day! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 16:16, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


Thanks

The Copyright Cleanup Barnstar
For everything you do in addressing copyright at WP:PUI and OTRS and elsewhere. Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:25, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


The lovely and talented User:ArielGold just granted my request in creating this. I wanted you to be among the first recipients. :) It is rather running into your shamrock, though. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:25, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! I think I've cleaned up the header. Stifle (talk) 18:26, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

File:Sector3.jpg

I uploaded the image under the wrong licence when I was a wiki-n00b. It isn't GPL. It is copyrighted. It is a copyvio from my days as a newbie (came across it when reviewing my contributions). Computerjoe's talk 18:49, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Ah, fair enough. {{db-author}} (in addition to or instead of the other tag) would probably have worked better; either way I've deleted that. Stifle (talk) 18:50, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons

Hi, I uploaded some photos to Wikimedia Commons not knowing that i had no right to do that. Now I have the permission from the owner of the photo to use it o wikipedia. What's next? Could you please help me? thank you. you may find my profile on the Commons as Mrszantogabor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrszantogabor (talk • contribs) 01:30, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

You should email the permission to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org, including the name of each of the images in question. Stifle (talk) 09:04, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

mediawikiblacklist

I ask you because you're active there--am I correct that any enWP admin can deal with things also? DGG (talk) 05:35, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, although you need at least some knowledge of regular expressions. Stifle (talk) 09:02, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Interest in Web 3.0

I saw on its deletion log that you recently restored the Web 3.0 article (which keeps getting deleted). In my user space I am leisurely brainstorming ways to get the article to stick around. If you are interested in helping, or know anyone who might be interested...the help would be greatly appreciated. --...but what do you think? ~B Fizz (talk) 07:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't think I can be of any help, but if I find someone I'll send them your way. Stifle (talk) 09:07, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

St. Patrick's Day

On behalf of the Wikipedia:Kindness Campaign, we just want to spread Wikipedia:WikiLove by wishing you a Happy Saint Patrick’s Day! Sincerely, --  Chzz  ►  08:30, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

It was yesterday (-: Stifle (talk) 09:02, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Yeah; I was too busy reducing the 'Guinness lake :-) It's the thought that counts. --  Chzz  ►  01:50, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Speedy Delete

I wasn't aware that we were not supposed to. I thought that was how we always did it. I'll try and remember that next time.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 12:24, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Gaspee Days

Hi. :) Question about the closure of Gaspee Days Committee, which is now due. You noted that the ticket was incomplete (Ticket:2009030310070398). The tagged page, [1], now contains a GFDL release, "The text of this web page is available for modification and reuse under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 and later and under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribute Share-Alike." This would seem to cover it, but I wanted to check to be sure there weren't problems with that ticket of which I'm unaware...like it tries to reserve commercial reuse or something. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:32, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

The problem with the ticket was that the email came from a different domain than gaspee.com, so we couldn't accept it. If the source site has, in the meantime, added a valid license release, then it is of course fine for the content to be used here, and no ticket is necessary. You can remove the ticket banner and note that you checked the source site on (some date) and found the license release. Stifle (talk) 14:47, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
I figured it was probably something like that, but I thought I'd better check. Thanks. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:53, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

OTRS issue

I was wondering if you could take a look at 2009031310000561. Further information at here.-Andrew c [talk] 18:27, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

I've replied over there. Stifle (talk) 18:53, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
How about 2009031710066322 now? The customer contacted me through the OTRS via another ticket to ask about this. -Andrew c [talk] 21:59, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
That ticket doesn't contain anything useful yet. I've replied to specify exactly what we need. Stifle (talk) 09:15, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Randy Richards

Stifle, You suggested keeping the delete due to the DrV coming back so fast[2]. However, that previous DrV was closed with a "bring it back when it's ready" sort of note. ("Leave deleted, without prejudice regarding Randy Richards; subject may be notable, but the draft article shown would need to be stubbed before restoration to mainspace could be considered.") That's what he's done. I think the current version is passable and should be allowed to be moved to mainspace. I can certainly imagine you'd have a different opinion than I would on that but I don't think the restoration should be blocked for the reason you said it should be. Thanks! Hobit (talk) 18:57, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, fair enough. I'll drop back and revise that opinion in a while. Stifle (talk) 18:59, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Ohio senate question

Hi. :) Because I'm concerned it may come up, may I ask in advance if 2009031710068357 covers all of the Ohio State Senate website? We had a spate of infringements from socker User:OSUHEY, including to that article, at the same time that this individual started removing the copyvio templates. If it covers all the Ohio State Senate website, I'll be prepared to note the ticket # at the articles. If it doesn't, I'll advise the individual that he's going to have to go through OTRS again. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:35, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

It only covers that article. Stifle (talk) 19:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Good to know. Thanks! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:57, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Advice!

Hi S, I'd appreciate some advice. I have come across some articles I believe to not satisfy inclusion criteria in an encyclopedia. When I say some I mean hundreds. They are all on the same topic; some are possibly notable, most are not though, and the article basically tells us this exists. So, would it be wise to make a bulk nomination for all these articles, or to nominate one by one. I understand bulk noms are often frowned upon, but nominating each individually would be majorly tedious :) Thanks for any help, Majorly talk 19:46, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Unless they're places (or one of the other classes of things that seem to be considered inherently notable) I would try listing a half-dozen or so in an initial listing, and then assuming that nomination goes through, listing them in several larger batches. Stifle (talk) 19:59, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


Ashley West

I have decided that the article Ashley West is not notable as the page only has one reference, from the artists website. Can you please delete his page. DavidJJJ (talk) 20:21, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

That page does not appear to qualify for immediate deletion. Please see Template:AfD in 3 steps for instructions on how to nominate it for deletion. Stifle (talk) 20:22, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

For your attention

Dear Stifle, I should like to bring this to your attention. I do hope that you will kindly give it the consideration that it deserves. It is my considered opinion that some people on Wikipedia are abusing their administrative privileges; sadly, I have been reminded of Mafia practices. Kind regards, --BF 19:59, 19 March 2009 (UTC).

I am sorry, but due to several previous bad experiences, I do not intervene in disputes between other users. I invite you to look up Wikipedia:Dispute resolution, where there are several options open to you.
I will say this much — as (I believe) I previously advised you, if you write a long message where a short one would do, people will tend not to read it; and spewing accusations and complaints at users, especially comparing them to the Mafia, is very likely to prejudice people (even further) against your position. Stifle (talk) 09:10, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your response. I should like to draw your attention to the disrespectful manner in which Future Perfect at Sunrise has been addressing me. Wikipedia feels like a gutter these days! (Please read his latest response to me and my corresponding response, on his talk page.) This is totally unacceptable. I hereby lodge an official complaint against this person; he clearly has a problem with the people of a certain origin. --BF 12:21, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
If you wish to lodge a complaint against an administrator, please use the dispute resolution process. The normal first attempt would be to file a request for comments. Note that my talk page does not accept official complaints against administrators (other than me). Stifle (talk) 13:56, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Dear Stifle, this is for your attention (I am sorry, I am unable to express myself briefly). I point out, as I have done in my message to User:Chillum, that this afternoon User:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise has been manipulating the contents of my talk page – he has first removed a message placed on my talk page by an anonymous user, and subsequently deleted the message altogether. This is unacceptable. Why is he spying on my talk page? What should happen before someone tells to this man that enough is enough? I should emphasize that this latest round of my harassment originates from my addition of the name "Arvand Rud" after "Shatt al-Arab" in three figure captions of the entry on "Shatt al-Arab", with no change, whatever, to the name "Shatt al-Arab". This issue has been the cause of twice blocking my account in the course of the past week. And in the meantime I have been repeatedly called names. User:Hans Adler has just descended, out of the blue, on my talk page to tell me that I should not have criticised the language of User:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise because he has been insulting me in a language different from his mother tongue!!! He goes on to tell me that I should leave if I don't like it here. This is what the Far Right call out: Foreigner, Go Home! What is going on here? I should greatly appreciate it if you agreed to co-sponsor my official complaint against User:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise. Kind regards, --BF 23:43, 21 March 2009 (UTC).
As I previously specified, I am not in a position to intervene in others' disputes. I do not see any actionable conduct by User:Future Perfect at Sunrise — he is merely outlining, correctly, behaviour that you have engaged in which is forbidden and/or discouraged by Wikipedia policies and guidelines. I respectfully suggest that you consider the possibility that he may, in fact, be right, and tone down your behaviour. Otherwise, you are liable to find yourself indefinitely blocked again, although not by me. Stifle (talk) 15:06, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Account creation system

Someone, probably you, has requested access to the account creation system. Please confirm here that it is you. Stifle (talk) 09:48, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Circular instructions

The instructions for what to do if I'm uncertain why you deleted an image I uploaded seem to be circular; following the links from your talk page I eventually arrive at the page User talk:Stifle/wizard/deleted/why which sends me on to the page Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted? with the instruction

If, having read that page completely and followed the suggestions, and you want the page to be undeleted, please choose one of the following options:

so I go to Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted? and find the following suggestion:

See the appropriate section below for more information. If you're still confused after checking the deletion log, politely ask the administrator responsible for an explanation by leaving a message on his or her Talk page: 

  1. Click the "Talk" link next to the administrator's name in the deletion log
  2. Click the "new section" or "+" button next to the "edit this page" link
  3. Type a subject line and your message, sign it by typing Quelcrime (talk) 11:49, 22 March 2009 (UTC) and click "Save".

So, following your instruction that I should follow the suggestions on Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted?, I return to your talk page, where I come again to the message

Please click here to leave me a message.

and the whole thing starts again. What do you actually want people to do? Do you want them to give up, or to break your instructions? If the latter, at what point?

I don't know if you'll reply to this, or if so, where you will reply. I tend not to read my talk page, probably for the same reason you've put up all this barbed wire around yours. Perhaps you can just fix it so other people don't get caught in the same loop.Quelcrime (talk) 11:49, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

  • Thank you for your suggestion. If you want to name the image you're talking about, I might be able to help you further. Stifle (talk) 14:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Guidance?

Hi. As you probably know, I am newly OTRS enabled, which is good, because it means I can stop pestering you about looking things up for me (though you've never complained and always kindly complied), but also challenging for me, because I'm nervous in new environments. :) Would you mind if I ask you for feedback as I learn how to handle things in that neighborhood? Obviously, since these are private matters, I can't do so with any detail on Wikipedia. If this isn't something that works in your schedule, please let me know, but I thought to ask you because you so clearly know your way around. :D --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:57, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Sure, that's no problem. You can either email or ask me on the OTRS wiki. Stifle (talk) 14:59, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. I'll do that. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:16, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Venetian people

Could you please add a clarification to your comment on the DRV of this page? My reading is that the delete votes provide a strong enough reasoning. They called the article OR, but didn't explain why or provide evidence to back it up. In my opinion the DRV was decided on a headcount rather than the strength of the arguments, which is a fault in the deletion process. - Mgm|(talk) 13:02, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm happy with my comment actually. Stifle (talk) 14:11, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

David Fishel

This is a reply to a message you left on my talk page. You wrote that a "cut and paste" move is undesirable because it splits the history of the page. I'm aware of this. What I tried to do was to separate an article into two articles. The David Fishel article contained two unrelated persons with a tag at the top saying this article needs to be separated into two articles. I moved the content of each of the individuals into two different articles, thus creating a disambiguation page in the process. What I don't understand is how I am supposed to move the history from a page that contained two persons into two individual pages since half of the history probably belongs to one of them. If you would be so kind to explain how it's done I would be forever grateful. All the best.--Popiloll (talk) 13:22, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Update: I see you've already taken care of the David Fishel problem. Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for your help.--Popiloll (talk) 13:38, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Deleting pages

Why is there no room for discussion? Even when it's started on a talk page, you just poof delete everything. NO discussion allowed. --THE FOUNDERS INTENT PRAISE 17:17, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

I assume you're referring to Heli-logging. That was deleted because it was copied without permission from another website. Deletions like this are authorized by Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item #12. Stifle (talk) 18:49, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Then you better get busy because there are tons of things copied from the Internet. --THE FOUNDERS INTENT PRAISE 23:06, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I delete any that I can find. If you find one, please place {{db-g12|Source website}} at the top and an administrator will review it. Thanks! Stifle (talk) 09:09, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Transwiking

Hello! You said at User_talk:Stifle/Archive_0309a#Regarding_this_2 that you would be willing to help with some transwiki requests. I am posting the list below. No real rush. Struck through means complete; however, leaving here should I discover other wikis to also transwiki to.

Thank you for your time and help! It is much appreciated. Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 16:09, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I'll go through those in sequence over the next few days. Stifle (talk) 18:39, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Fantastic! Thanks! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 18:49, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Early problem. Only the Annex Wikia allows imports from other wikis. You have to be a sysop to import to any other Wikia wiki. I am only able to transfer them to Annex Wikia as a result. Stifle (talk) 18:51, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Hmmm... I'll have to see who are admins on multiple wikis or maybe just join them myself and eventually become an admin there. Whereas I think running for adminship here would be a bad idea for me, I might have a better shot elsewhere where I have no block log or anything. Best, --A NobodyMy talk 19:34, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
I don't think you have to be a sysop to export. Stifle (talk) 19:51, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
I registered on wikia, figuring I could at least import the ones that are redirected but still have the edit histories and was unsuccessful. If I have better success, I'll let you know. Thanks again for the help! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 22:18, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Notice

A discussion about Wikipedia:Vandalism-only account has been started at Wikipedia_talk:Blocking_policy#Vandalism-only_account. -- IRP ☎ 22:09, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Rollback

Can I have it please? I haven't really felt the need for it before, but recently I've had to deal with a few vandals at times when response has been slow and have found it frustrating to have to go through hoops to revert them.

In case you're wondering why I chose to ask you, it's because I looked at the category af admins willing to consider requests and chose the one that I recognised as having disagreed with most often. I don't want this as a badge of honour for being anyone's "friend" but because I can be trusted not to abuse it. Phil Bridger (talk) 23:18, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Sure, done. Stifle (talk) 10:17, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Thank you for the Copyright Cleanup Barnstar

Thanks. :) I thought I'll look at some of the articles to see what ones still had copyrighted images which really didn't need to be there. Also I need some help. In the Today (Australia) article do you think those images should go? I'm thinking the first one (first episode) and the second (Current Today team) should be tagged but sort of iffy. Bidgee (talk) 12:25, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I concur. They are used decoratively only and as such fail WP:NFCC#8. Stifle (talk) 14:20, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Question about recreating a deleted page

Hello, I noticed you deleted a page on a Donald Bateman (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=C.+Donald+Bateman) because he did not qualify for notability. However, this man is in the National Inventor's Hall of Fame (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Inventors_Hall_of_Fame#B) for inventing the ground proximity warning system. I would like to write a short bio on him for my class project (in which we have to choose someone from the National Inventor's HoF that does not have a wiki page yet). However, part of the assignment is to upload the information onto a Wikipedia page, and I would not get credit for this if my page got deleted. Will you reconsider this deletion?

Thanks!

AstonMartinDBS (talk) 13:53, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I notice that you used my talk page wizard, but you followed the wrong link — instead of "reply", you should have chosen "deleted page".
As it would appear that most people in the National Inventors Hall of Fame are notable, I have restored this article on this occasion. However, you will need to improve it further, and in particular add citations to independent, reliable sources that verify what you have written; otherwise it may be deleted again.
Please note that Wikipedia is not obliged to assist with your assignment. See also Wikipedia:School and university projects. Stifle (talk) 14:23, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Deletion review for T-Wayne

An editor has asked for a deletion review of T-Wayne. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedy-deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Andrewlp1991 (talk) 21:36, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks.

Thanks for closing the Roblox Article deletion review topic.--gordonrox24 (talk) 22:41, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome. Stifle (talk) 09:16, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Transwiki?

Hello. I notice that you restored an article but only temporarily. You say it is restored for transwiki. What transwiki are you referring to?. —Mythdon (talk • contribs) 03:56, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

I restored it to transwiki to annex Wikia, but forgot to redelete it. Thanks for the reminder; I'll go do it now. Stifle (talk) 09:09, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Sean Kennedy (Author) to stay in Wikipedia

I respectfully request you reconsider your decision for "endorsing deletion". I believe there have been many productive responses to concerns on the deletion review page as well as additional references and notability entries (#1/#2) added to the article. Thank you very much for your time. CelticWonder (talk) 05:56, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Stifle, I've asked there that you consider it again, on your own, and give us your own independent view, which is as likely to be reasonable as mine. I think this is borderline, and your opinion would be helpful. It's flattering to be considered an authority on all sorts of things, but i really dont see it as my role except for those few technical things I might perhaps actually know. DGG (talk) 07:20, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Done. Stifle (talk) 20:05, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Infobox Germany

Hi the proposal is almost done at User:Dr. Blofeld/Germany using Template:Infobox German location/sandbox. Just need to shrink the COA to around 80px and get the map to display the title like with France. What do you think? Let me know on the template talk page thanks. Dr. Blofeld White cat 09:01, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Seems fine to me, good work! Stifle (talk) 11:55, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi Stifle! The box has been drawn up at Template:Infobox German location/sandbox. Let me know when you can update the actual template Template:Infobox German location. We even have a nice anenetated place name on the map now! You are an admin right? Dr. Blofeld White cat 09:42, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
I've posted a message at the template talk page saying that I am considering replacing it. If there are no objections in the next few days, I will do so. Stifle (talk) 10:05, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

OK thanks for your help. I can't see any major objections although you know never know on here! I've also just proposed to shrink the rather obese pin poin map on the standard Template:Infobox Settlement to 6px as it give sa more accurate impression on the pin maps. Have a great day! Dr. Blofeld White cat 10:08, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Reply to your comment about the James Dearing image.

Sir,

I appreciate the information you typed in about the public domain, particularly parrotting the obvious fact about the relation to publication before 1923. However, you make a judgment that just because the image is old, which it is, that it was published before 1923. That image is a family image, was published for the first time approximately 1990, was restricted in writing to one time publication, was plagiarized by your contributor who photocopied it out of the Confederate General's series, and I direct you to remove it or I will have it removed.

Russell Hicks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.14.168.20 (talk) 19:59, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

If you have proof that the image is a copyright violation, please send it to info-en-c@wikimedia.org, quoting the image title. However, unless you can provide such proof, the complaint will not be considered. Stifle (talk) 20:53, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Sir, You are the offender here; you have the burden of proof. Back up your reasoning for allowing this photograph to be plagiarized.
I provide photographs out of my collection to be used, if I am asked. I was not asked. I resent having them lifted out of copyrighted publications. You do not own the rights to the image.174.14.168.20 (talk) 22:22, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Kindly do not refer to me as an "offender". I do not own this website. Also, by your verbiage ("[b]ack up your reasoning for allowing this photograph to be plagiarized"), it is clear that you will not accept anything that I have to say on the subject as you have already made your judgment.
Under title 17, chapter 5, paragraph 512, section (c), subsection (3) of the United States Code, a notification of a claimed infringement of copyright must include certain items, which you have not included in your request. Therefore, this site is not bound to consider it. If you wish to submit a conforming request, you may mail it to the address at foundation:designated agent. Stifle (talk) 08:25, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Chevrolet Vega

The guy who you blocked a couple of days ago is back and added complete nonsense. He has deleted multiple sections of information, only to put them back. It would seem he is using this page to pad his edit count. I cannot tell when this page is going to be encyclopedic, and when it is not. Could you please look into itChevrolet Vega. This is getting kind of ridiculous, as I have already warned him once.keystoneridin! (talk) 01:20, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

While I note that you used my message system, it appears that you may have chosen the wrong option. Instead of "some other reason", you should have chosen "You need general help from an administrator". Problems which any administrator can help with are best posted at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard (shortcut: WP:AN), where someone will notice it and take up the matter quickly. As I am in the UTC+1 timezone, I did not see your message for over seven hours; a message at the admin noticeboard would have had your issue resolved much faster.
I will look at the images on that page shortly. I have left the user a message suggesting using the preview button in future. Stifle (talk) 08:40, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
OK, I've nominated most of the images there for WP:PUF. Stifle (talk) 08:47, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Hello- the images in Chevrolet Vega are sourced from my photos (either scanned from my vintage photos or my digital photos taken within the last year. (only three images in article are non-free. the rest are my work and my photos. Please tell me hoe to list the source if not worded correctly and if licence used in incorrect. Thanks (VegavairbobVegavairbob (talk) 04:39, 31 March 2009 (UTC))

I have written 95% of this article over a month period. I deleted one small section (which I added because The image was deleted- I wrote the section FOR the image. Compare the current article from Feb 12 (a few days before I started editing/adding to it)and the current one. Thanks. (Vegavairbob17:42, 30 March 2009 (UTC))

That's fine, but you can't scan or grab photos at random and claim they're your own. Stifle (talk) 18:00, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
I previously used some photos from the web, but only the Vertapac and DeLorean images which I didn't claim to be mine. I listed them as non-free. rationel was disputed and they were deleted.
The ads were/are my ads that I scanned on my Cannon 310 printer. Because the non-free images were deleted,(I wanted images of NEW Vegas in the article) I'm now using my photos which are either my current Vegas that I currently own, did own, or Vegas my family has owned. The older photos were scanned (on my printer mentioned above)recently for the article and downloaded into my computer. The newer images were taken with my digital camera and were previously downloaded into my computer, and used for the article.
Currently The article contains only three non-free images. An administrator helped me with the rationel which is listed on two of the three. The rest of the images currently in article are sourced from my older photo archive and my digital photos.
I tried to be clear about this in the image listings and have updated them with more specific info.
I am a big fan of this vehicle. I have a lot of material- info, mags, promo items, every ad, every brochure,etc, etc.
I also currently own the 73 orange and 71 blue Vegas-(images of them) in the article. These Cars with are posted with photos on Cars Domain.com under Vegavairbob!!)

LLthe dark blue 74 GT and the green 72 wagon were my Grandfathers (I have other photos of these with me in them-not used)

The cosworth vega I owned in the 80's. The auto show picture I took at the NY auto show in 77. (yes kept the photo all these years)etc. I listed all this info in each image.
Now that I know I can't use the non-free material (only a small amount allowed) I resorted to using my older photos to show the cars. The older photos look great with the help of an administrator.
The three non-free images were scanned from two ads and one mag. article from my Vega collection. Collecting since the 70's!
PLEASE understand that I'm using my second choice of images as the non-free images was my preference and like I said, I didn't know they had to be used sparingly.
Please accept my apologises for so many unused images. I would like the article to stay as is. I think it looks great and reads well. I worked hard on it. I had plans to include an ad section that would look great but I'd be happy with the two that are currently included that describe the awards (located in Awards and Reviews)
Also, I'm now aware that too many minor edits are not desired...Sorry.

(VegavairbobVegavairbob (talk) 05:36, 31 March 2009 (UTC))

Again, just because you have possession of an item does not give you the right to upload it and release it under a free license. If you, yourself, took a photograph, and nothing in it is copyrighted, then it's fine. However, if you just happen to have a copy of it and did not take it yourself, it can't be used. Stifle (talk) 08:12, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Addition to DRV process

Hi, you've been active as an administrator in the DRV process in the past so I would appreciate your comments on my suggested change to DRV requirements. Thanks! Usrnme h8er (talk · contribs) 09:03, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

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