User talk:Sue Rangell/Archives/Sunday 2nd of December 2012 07:29:12 AM

Jay Westervelt page

Please watch this page, a flurry of vandalism is recurring , evidently to promotie a business .

Mariko Shinoda and Jichael Mackson

I am the user who made the most recent anonymous edit to Miss Shinoda's wiki entry. I did so based on the opening crawl of the program in question (screenshot here). This same logo is visible (though a bit too small to be read) here, in an official site linked from the Japanese wiki page for this program (the second link, the first is dead, probably since the program has been off the air for a few years). See also the talk page for the Shinoda entry.--Wlerin (talk) 06:26, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Beware that the term "Jichael Mackson" throws up a ton of red flags that look like vandalism, so be sure that it is cited well. Because other editors will simply remove it again if you don't. See WP:WHYCITE --Sue Rangell 19:31, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

I will, however, even a rudimentary knowledge of how English is transcribed into Japanese should have been sufficient to tell that "Jaikeru Makuson" (the literal reading of the katakana, and what the page now reads) is the same as, and almost certainly intended to be, Jichael Mackson.

edit: Hmm. Of course, it would help if there was anything I could cite besides that screenshot from the program.--Wlerin (talk) 21:20, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

How placing a Delete tag can save an article

THIS is a really good example of how placing a delete tag can save an article. Within 24 hours of the placement of the tag, a small swarm of editors flew in and expanded the stub and added great citations. --Sue Rangell 19:57, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Ho Chi Minh City

Sue,

You was mistake about Cung Le birthplace. He was born in Sai-Gon. Not HCM city because at that time 1972, Saigon is capital and belong to South Vietnam. And North Vietnam has not invade South Vietnam yet, After April, 1975, N. Vietnam invade and control whole country, then, they change Saigon to hcm city.

Research to educate yourself and fix your lack of Vietnam's history..

Be honest and respect Reader also respect History. So, please correct Cung Le birhtplace is Sai Gon. Not ho chi minh city. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.8.85.208 (talk) 02:06, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

P.S. Since -0000 untill 1975 there is no place in Vietnam call ho chi minh city.

My name is Dean Nguyen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.8.85.208 (talk) 02:01, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

It used to be called Saigon. I am old enough to remember when it happened. --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 02:05, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

So why you keep writing Cung Le birthplace was ho chi minh city? Cung Le was born on 1972. That moment, there is no place in Vietnam call ho chi minh city. ???????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.8.85.208 (talk) 02:12, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

If a person gets a name change, you no longer call them by their birth name. It would be impolite and probably illegal. It is no different for a city that has a name change. People must accept that the city is no longer called Saigon.--Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 02:17, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Do you understand history? No one think the way you think. It's for children. On 1972 and all before 1975, there is no place in Vietnam call ho chi minh city. Why're you use that name(hcm) on the year 1972? Where is history? What history mean to you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.8.85.208 (talk) 02:25, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

I understand how you feel. But the Cung Le page is no place to beat your chest about history. As an American who lived during that time, the images of the US embassy being over-run are still very vivid to me. I am no happier about the name change than you are. But the city is called Ho Chi Minh city now. Nothing can be done about that. Using Saigon on the Cung Le page will only serve to confuse people who are younger and do not remember those times. I am sorry. --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 02:30, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

I totally disagree with you, but you are the one control this page. Read this for yourself (Saigon was Cung Le's birthplace): http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/cung-le — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.8.85.208 (talk) 03:41, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

I am not "in control" of the page. I've made one edit, and plan to make no others. feel free to change the name of the city if it suits you, but be warned some other editor is likely to change it back again. That is what Wikipedia is all about. be well. --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 23:38, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Your message

Hello,

• "Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Minho Province with this edit. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you."

I don't understand where or what made my edit unconstructive. Please help! 213.246.91.158 (talk) 03:55, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Please do not take offense, it's obvious that you have good intentions, but your edits, while well intended, appear unencyclopedic to me (at least some of them) I notice that you also got a warning from Jim1138. I am curious, is English not your native language? If that is the case, thank you for contributions! Just please make sure to include an edit summary. Please provide one before saving your changes to an article, so that people who come along after you can repair any honest mistakes that you make. If you recieve warnings from any other editors, feel free to refer them to me. Mistakes are ok, somebody will just come along and fix it later, that's what wikipedia is all about! Be well. --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 04:27, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

• "Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to Saxemberg Island with this edit, you may be blocked from editing."

Given what you've just written above, why this message? Have you actually looked at the work I've just put in on this article and its code's presentation – as with the Minho Province edit you criticized – ? Perhaps Wikipedia no longer wants contributions or "assumes good faith" (as I read somewhere). 213.246.91.158 (talk) 05:10, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Incidentally, if you think I don't include edit summaries, as Jim1138 did in that message on my talk page, then you and they are surely looking in the wrong place.

...Now what's going on? You've removed your most recent message on the talk page. Why? 213.246.91.158 (talk) 05:18, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

I removed your warning. If you wish I can put it back. --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 05:21, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

But your first warning still stands, yes? I'm not offended, more worried by the tone of these warnings, which, without any accompanying explanations or indications, read as being without good faith. Can you see that?

I was just about to submit a similar kind of edit for another phantom island's article (Thompson Island) but you've left me feeling that I shouldn't – and perhaps should stop trying to contribute. 213.246.91.158 (talk) 05:32, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Of course my first warning still stands, as do the warnings of Jim1138 and any other editors who may find your edits unencyclopedic. You don't need to be personally offended. You simply need to be careful. I understand that you mean well, but many of your edits will draw the attention of patrollers, that's all. When that happens, I will be happy to be in your corner and explain the situation. Just try to edit carefully, and problems will be at a minimum. Be well.. --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 05:41, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Don't worry, you don't need to be thinking I'm personally offended. To help me "edit carefully", I'd be grateful if you could point out what's "unencyclopedic" and/or "vandalism" and/or "disruptive" and/or not careful about those two edits that prompted your messages. 213.246.91.158 (talk) 05:57, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

...My request wasn't rhetorical, but, if you prefer not to help, please at least assure me that you won't leave any more stark, unpleasant messages. Surely you can do that, if you "understand that I mean well"..? (Do you think those messages communicate that understanding?) 213.246.91.158 (talk) 21:33, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

About to edit

Hello again. In case you missed my addition above, I'm about to edit Thompson Island (South Atlantic). Please don't send me another brusque, unpleasant message. 213.246.91.158 (talk) 04:27, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

PS I enjoyed reading your user page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.246.91.158 (talk) 04:27, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Nadie Boulanger edit

Just wanted to hear your reasoning for keeping this information on Nadia's Professional Life section. The information does not pertain to her, instead her sister Lili. Also the information is false, as I read the source that was cited and it did not mention this information anywhere. I checked Lili's article and this information was not present there either, therefore it is reasonable to assume the information is invalid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.1.215.84 (talk) 04:02, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing this to me. Someone has been vandlizing the page for a while it seems, inserting odd information here and there. If you are familiar with the subject, please review the entire article. Thank you again. Reverting- Not vandalism- Vandalism was already in the article prior to Frescabot's reversions. --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 04:17, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

My user page

Thank you :)
—Sowlos (talk) 05:18, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

You are very welcome! Vandals are vandals, and their work gets reverted. Your page looks good now. :) --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 05:22, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Busted script

Hi, I was puzzled by your edit summary here so I poked around in your contributions and found similar trouble here and here. Perhaps there's a bug in whatever editing tool you're using? Most of your edit summaries seem fine, so it's a little odd. Cheers. Hairhorn (talk) 05:36, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it's Huggle. I've brought it to the attention of the devs. It's good for a hundred reverts or so, then it starts having problems, gets stuck, ignores whitelist, leaves odd edit summarys, (and the worse, reverts other simultaneous reversions), etc. It's still a really good tool, and I figure if enough people send in bug reports, they will hammer it out. Thanks, I will take this to the Huggle page too.--Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 06:02, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Compline

I'm not sure why you undid my edit to the "Compline" article, but I was correcting what I think is an obvious error by whomever wrote the original article. Psalmody is not accompanied by anthems, which are a characteristic of Anglican liturgy, but by antiphons. If you look in the paragraph following where I made the edit, describing the changes to Compline after Vatican II, psalmody is correctly referred to as accompanied by its antiphons. I think it's clear the original writer simply confused two similar words that start with "a". Can we please revert to my correction?

From my dictionary:

(From the Greek antiphonon, sounding against, responsive sound, singing opposite, alternate chant; Latin, antiphona; 
French, antienne.) As at present commonly understood, an antiphon consists of one or more psalm verses or sentences 
from Holy Scripture which are sung or simply recited before and after each psalm and the Magnificat during Matins and Vespers.

You are indeed correct. Reverted. Thank you for bringing it to me. PS. Next time please sign. Take care.--Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 05:56, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Portfolio investment

Hello Sue, I removed the prod from the above article as it was previously listed at articles for deletion. Also could you please always indicate in the edit summary that you have proposed an article for deletion otherwise it's impossible to tell from the article history if an article has been proposed before. Thank you. Rotten regard Softnow 21:55, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

• I removed the prod from Tard, Hungary per OUTCOMES. Thank you. Rotten regard Softnow 22:14, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the heads-up! Yes, I was working my suggestbot subjects. Sorry about the edit summary, (need coffee) I'll do better next time! --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 05:36, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Resi Hammerer

Hello Sue, I removed the prod from the above article as Olympic athletes are usually considered notable. If they've also won a medal then they are about 99.9% likely to be considered notable. Thank you. Rotten regard Softnow 01:16, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

• Hello again, I also removed the prod from Sion Airport as international airports with commercial passenger services are almost certainly notable. Rotten regard Softnow 01:45, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

That is a little suprising, but OK! Thank you for removing them, I appreciate it! --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 20:35, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Atheist

Milosevic was considered by others to be an Atheist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.1.139.247 (talk) 23:22, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

WHAT THE HECK?

WHY did you tell me off for no reason. i said how hurricane 1995 iris did a fujiwhara. you had no reason to revert the edit. this was clearly a false positive. so why go against me. -_- --Time for a nice cuppa brew (talk) 23:36, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

I don't believe I "told you off", in fact I thought the message was very polite. I apologize if you found it rude in any way, I assure you no rudeness was intended. I merely felt that your edit was unencyclopedic. I am very sorry if you disagree. --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 23:49, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a lot i understand XD IRIS FOREVER!! --Time for a nice cuppa brew (talk) 18:25, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Maribyrnong river

Section I deleted is highly subjective. Cannot be objectively proved and has NO place in wikipedia. Basically it s garbage Im going to remove. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.94.144.34 (talk) 00:08, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		I, Jeff G., hereby award Sue Rangell with The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar for outstanding achievement in countering vandalism.   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 00:06, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Nicolle_Galyon

Sue - I'd appreciate a prompt response here since you've made an accusation of bias.--v/r - TP 22:15, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

I have made no accusation of bias. I am very sorry if you took what I said that way. You just seem to be really wrapped up in that article, and maybe you should take a deep breath is all. The fact that you took my words so personally might be something that you may want to consider. I absolutely meant nothing personal, in fact, I am having trouble reading how you might have taken my words so personally. You are a good editor. I think you have made your edits in good faith, I simply disagree with some of your conclusions. Please do not take any offense. --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 22:31, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

I think you hear a different tone in my voice than I do. A refutation of my argument would better serve your rationale than hearing anything more than mild interest that no one bothered to actually search for sources. I consider myself a deletionist, a harsh enforcer of notability criteria. The ARS crown has no particular love of me. Yet - I took the time to find five sources, in independent media, with significant coverage. You said the sources are not significant and not independent. I'd love to hear your reasoning.--v/r - TP 23:15, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the written word does not always translate well. I could very well be reading something into your printed words that is not there, just as I am sure you did with my words. We are both human are we not? I will be very happy to address your sources, which I will do on the AfD page, where it is appropriate. By the way, it is good to meet you! :) --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 23:22, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

The Anti-Spam Barnstar

		The Anti-Spam Barnstar
		Many thanks for your tireless efforts in keeping Wikipedia clear of article spam and other nonsense. Wikipedia is a better quality project because of hardworking and conscientious editors like you!--Hu12 (talk) 06:16, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very very much! You are too kind, be well. --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 23:02, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

New page patrol? My apology needed first

Hi Sue,
First of all, my apologies leaving you on your own in the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/House of du Souich kerfuffle. I should have paid more attention to it, and helped you more. I admire your fine work there, but there is the small matter of... ooh, Spring evening thunderstorms where I am writing from, must close.
--Shirt58 (talk) 11:12, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Aw thank you, that was sweet, but not necessary. No apology needed. Spammers and hoaxsters are spammers and hoaxsters. No doubt there will eventually be more. :) --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 20:41, 30 November 2012 (UTC)