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Rejection of Draft: Allegheny International Services

Thank you for reviewing my article submission draft Allegheny International Services: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Allegheny_International_Services. You had declined the article, citing lack of notable sources and insufficient coverage. I spent a lot of time yesterday correcting those issues and even found a noteworthy reference (Forbes Magazine) that I had missed before. I revised and resubmitted, but my second submission was rejected and called "essentially an advertisement." I hadn't noticed my non-neutral sounding language in my draft before, but upon review, I corrected those items. How can I get my article reconsiderd? I've spent a lot of time and I think it does meet the criteria now. I would really appreciate any advice. Thank you. Tina Rosco (talk) 22:47, 4 March 2020 (UTC)Tina Rosco

Tina RoscoThe article has been rejected which means the submission will not be considered any further. Sulfurboy (talk) 22:51, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Request on 01:20:33, 5 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Drkab



Drkab (talk) 01:20, 5 March 2020 (UTC)


Hi Sulferboy,

First of all thanks for your quick response to editing the article I have been working on, Taylor Bailey and for letting me know why it was rejected - - basically because he was not a notable sports figure. After reviewing the criteria, I think that he now qualifies since he has started and played in a professional game. Wikipedia has a page for the National Independent Soccer Association, which is recognized as a professional soccer league.

Below are references for the NISA page and some sources that verify Taylor Bailey's play in the game between the Oakland Roots and Chattanooga FC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Independent_Soccer_Association The National Independent Soccer Association (NISA) is a professional men's soccer league in the United States. The league is in the third tier of American soccer and began play in 2019.

Verification of Taylor Bailey starting/playing for the Oakland Roots.

https://blog.sfgate.com/soccer/2020/02/29/late-strike-earns-oakland-roots-point-in-season-opener/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqe-YUh2EW4&t=50s

https://wdef.com/2020/02/29/cfc-draws-oakland-first-pro-match/

Does this meet the criteria?

Thanks for your help and patience. As you can probably tell, this is my first time writing/editing a page for Wikipedia.

Any additional comments would be welcomed.

Unfortunately no, a list of leagues that are considered fully professional under WP:NFOOTY standard can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Fully_professional_leagues. If you disagree with this, you can propose a change to their policy. Until then, that's what I have to follow. Sulfurboy (talk) 01:55, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Declined Draft: Anomalie

Hello. You recently declined my draft submission for the artist 'Anomalie' and I am wondering exactly what you feel needs to be done for this draft to be accepted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Anomalie&action=submit

The previous editor to deny the draft commented saying I had not indicated which musical notability criteria was satisfied. I asked editors on live chat how exactly to fix this and their response was that they actually thought my references (especially Voir, The Jerusalem Post, and 303 Magazine) were viable in satisfying the first criterion for musical notability. They further suggested I reach out to the editor find out what they want, which I did. The editor responded that if other editors thought the criterion was satisfied that I should indicate so in an afc comment, which I also did (perhaps I failed to do so in a standard, expected way?).

We now come to the point where you have denied my resubmission with the afc comment indicating the satisfaction of musical notability; and so I ask you, what is it about the draft that you felt warranted a denial? What must I do at this juncture to get the draft approved?

Thank you for any clarity you can provide.

Afunk45 (talk) 23:21, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Afunk45, responded on draft page Sulfurboy (talk) 00:05, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for responding. I would like to discuss your statements on Voir, The Jerusalem Post, and 303. "Voir" is a very reputable cultural magazine in Quebec, "The Jerusalem Post" is a large newspaper in Israel, and "303" is a large print magazine circulated through Denver, Colorado. I have also had editors on IRC analyze my sources and tell me that they deem them viable. Does the reputability of each of these sources really not convince you of their viability? Thank you for understanding that I want to fully understand - as I have received mixed messages about my sources. I implore you to please re-consider them as they truly are reputable. Also, I believe I made necessary edits to sound more neutral, per your request - thank you for pointing this out to me as well.Afunk45 (talk) 02:10, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Afunk45, You're completely missing the point here. First 303 is distributed by a media marketing company, it isn't reliable as we cannot determine what articles were and were not paid for. And I never disputed that JP and Voir are reliable sources, the issue is the articles are primary as they are interviews. Sulfurboy (talk) 03:06, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Curvature_Renormalization_Group_Method

Dear Sulfurboy, Can you please answer to my question and elaborate on your rejection of my article when you say "This submission provides insufficient context for those unfamiliar with the subject matter."? What more context do I need to write? I see many pages on technical topics that simply refer to other articles for a more general description of the field. I would like to avoid duplicating what's already written on pages like "topologically ordered systems". Thank you. Here is the link to the page: 

PaoloMolignini (talk) 13:02, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
PaoloMolignini, If you see other pages that don't provide proper context, feel free to tag them with the appropriate maintenance tags. What we're specifically looking for as at a minimum a one or two line quip at the beginning of the article that provides context to the uninitiated reader. That is, imagine a friend ask you about this subject and has zero knowledge of it...how do you explain it? When this is done, feel free to tag me so I can re-review and most likely approve it. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:08, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Dear Sulfurboy, I have updated the article with more contextual information at the beginning. Please let me know if this is ok or if I should add more. Cheers, PaoloMolignini (talk) 16:28, 5 March 2020 (UTC)


Asking for clarification on rejected article

Hey, thanks for the feedback on this page for Barry's. Can you please give me some specific detail on how or where it reads like an ad? I'm happy to adjust where necessary, but I thought I wrote this in a pretty neutral, objective tone, and I cited a ton of reputable sources. Thanks for your help!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Barry%27s_Bootcamp — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djb2183 (talk • contribs) 17:04, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Krishi Sanskriti page

Thank you. I tried to edit the page and add sources. Because I'm a Wikipedia novice, I find the editing somewhat difficult. In any case, if this does not fit the Wikipedia requirements, so be it. The sole reason, I did it was to let scholars and students know about yet another predatory conference and publishers. Best wishes Gek23 aka Gregory Kersten — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gek23 (talk • contribs) 01:18, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Gek23 (talk) 17:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC) Talk Krishi Sanskriti > Sulfurboy (talk) 03:12, 5 March 2020 (UTC) wrote: "Wikipedia is not a place to push your agenda against something." I'm sorry Sulfurboy. It seems that you read my explanation, which also had nothing to do with my agenda not the page. I'm not pushing anything but telling about yet another scam. The purpose was to give potential readers useful (I think) information. No need to reply, Sulfurboy, as I will not continue this exercise. Best wishes, Gek23

Request on 16:01:18, 5 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Dotanmeirov


Hi, I am really trying to figure out how to properly do this. I have made most of the revisions asked for. If you can give me even one small example, I will make sure to fix the whole. I can also see how in the beginning it was totally advertisement looking. I removed everything and only kept the dry facts about the company. I followed the instructions on the wiki pages. Just give me a little insite and I will do my best to make it right. I thank you again, D

Dotanmeirov (talk) 16:01, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Dotanmeirov, Sorry, but I don't have any interest in helping paid editors and/or a business promoting itself. Sulfurboy (talk) 18:43, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Mary Jane Warfield and Her Significance.

Hello! I recently began a page about Mary Jane Warfield and I want to personally make the case to you why she is a notable figure, not just a wife or mistress of a house. If you're not familiar with Kentucky history, I can understand why it's hard to imagine how prominent the Clay family is. Well, you might recognize the names Henry Clay, the Great Compromiser, or Cassius Clay, the Kentucky abolitionist, but you might not recognize the phenomenal women who also contributed to society in a meaningful manner. Laura Clay, the daughter of Mary Jane, was inspired by the bitter divorce of Mary Jane and Cassius to advocate for women's equality in the 19th century. Again, the 19th century, in Kentucky!! Mary Jane would canvass the streets of Lexington to recruit women to support women's suffrage. Susan B. Anthony mourned her death in 1900, citing her as a major inspiration.

I also view this Wikipedia page as a defense against the memory that was perpetrated by Cassius. Cassius called her a cold, spiteful woman. He blamed their divorce on her and deprived her of any property from the marriage, and if you remember from my article, she was the primary caretaker while he was carrying on affairs in Russia. She raised 80,000 dollars with her businesses to pay off Cassius's debts and helped her family not just survive, but thrive. She ran a business as essentially a single mother for two decades in a time where women were thought to be the weaker sex and in need of help for the most simple tasks. So her actions do warrant a page. If her husband, a man who advocated for the freedom of slaves, but kept slaves himself, and who married a 15-year-old girl while he was in his 80s, has a page, then the woman that kept his family and his name alive also deserves a page. Mary Jane Warfield is an example of exceptional grit and perseverance and can serve as an inspirational figure for many southern women.

I will continue to work on Mary Jane's page in hopes of having it published. Thank you for your time and consideration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashleigh King (talk • contribs) 13:32, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Ashleigh King, None of anything that you just said has anything to do with the standards we use to establish notability. I would recommend reading the guidelines provided in the decline messages to learn what needs to be done to establish notability. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:06, 2 March 2020 (UTC)


Hi again Sulferboy! I have continued my educational journey into the life of Ms. Mary Jane Warfield, the Lionness of White Hall, if you will (a small joke because Cassius was called the Lion of White Hall. No known historians actually called her that to be clear:)) My research certainly did not disappoint! She has shown to be an instrumental force in the passage of the Married Woman's Property Act of 1894, which protected women from economic exploitation. She remained an energetic presence within the suffrage movement up until her death in 1900. She truly shows the influential actions taken by Kentucky women that further the rights and protections of women across the south in the 19th century. I hope you enjoy the additions to the article as well as more primary resources. Thank you and have a lovely day! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mary_Jane_Warfield Ashleigh King — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashleigh King (talk • contribs) 22:12, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Request on 23:41:54, 5 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by VladNDB


Hello. I am having trouble getting the Wikipedia page for Peter McIan accepted. McIan produced two of the most popular albums of the 80's (Men at Work's 'Business as Usual' and 'Cargo'), as well as a number of important Australian bands (listed in the page), and has been credited in multiple major periodicals (Billboard and Rolling Stone) for helping to shape the Australian sound. There are 36 references to McIan on Wikipedia, so I am unclear why a page addressing the person cited on other pages (often at length) is not relevant. I'd appreciate any help here! Thanks!

VladNDB (talk) 23:41, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Your opinion on proposed tables on stable sorting

Hi,

As you have a history of constructive comments like, User_talk:Sulfurboy/Archive/2013/October#Unique_Flavor, I was wondering if would look at this proposed example of tables I've put together. The Talk:Sorting_algorithm#Static_Stable_sorting_tables_with_dividers table as a sample in part of Talk:Sorting_algorithm#How_is_this_stable_sort_example? for eventual inclusion the topic stable sorting.


While I really wanted an interactive example, as I put together over at User:Lent/sandbox#Table, but column sorting doesn't work from almost all mobile browsers. Sadly, further sorting on a secondary column by Shift-Clicking or Shift-Enter requires a either a physical keyboard or a workaround with a virtual keyboard.


Until recently, I had no clue that Shift-Clicking (or Shift-Enter) further sorts an already sorted Wikipedia table.

Were you aware of this magic Shift-Click action?

--Lent (talk) 08:45, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Lent, I wasn't aware of it, although the edits I do in Wikipedia outside of automated processes is pretty limited and with that being said, I'm probably not the best source to give input on a proposed table format.Sulfurboy (talk) 14:08, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
OK. Thanks! --Lent (talk) 02:00, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Great Fan

Hello @Sulfurboy thank you for making Wikipedia a better place on internet am great fan hopefully one day to become like you always active 👍 Sevenmw265 (talk) 02:35, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

List of Yoshinobu Launch Complex launches

Lead questions

Hi,

I would like an opinion on the "lead". Should I try and pull in material from the transcluding page Yoshinobu Launch Complex to construct the lead for List of Yoshinobu Launch Complex launches?

Or compose a new lead?

Also, I want to figure out the function of the <noinclude>[[topic]]</noinclude><includeonly>topic</includeonly> that my model page used.


Perhaps it prevents recursive inclusion in the server's page composition?


Any pointers on this magic?

My path to the "List" new page

I recently created List of Yoshinobu Launch Complex launches as a transcluded page to improve a page Yoshinobu Launch Complex which itself was tagged with {{Update|date=January 2010}} 10 years ago, in January 2010.

I got into tranclusion with List of judges of the Supreme Court of Norfolk Island and a User request (a court clerk's request) to update information in Supreme_Court_of_Norfolk_Island#Judges (which turned out to be a transcluded page). This page's lead uses a bit of wiki magic at the top:

<!-- This article is transcluded in the main article Supreme Court of Norfolk Island. Changes made here will appear in that article. The almost almost duplication of the main article name to ensure the wikilink appears in this list and not in the main article --> The Judges of the <noinclude>[[Supreme Court of Norfolk Island]]</noinclude><includeonly>Supreme Court of Norfolk Island</includeonly> are generally appointed from among Justices of the [[Federal Court of Australia|Federal Court]] who may sit on the Australian mainland or they may convene the court on Norfolk Island depending on the type of matter they may be dealing with.

I've been using this as a, hopefully, good model.

Additional citations for verification

As a new page, List of Yoshinobu Launch Complex launches has nowhere near the cites of a page like List of Satish Dhawan Space Centre launches. It does, though, have a good source for all the launches listed as

"JAXA | Launch Records". JAXA | Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency. Retrieved 2020-02-24.

. This is a Wikipedia:SECONDARY source right? Also per WP:V,

To be sure, there are many websites in which you can have confidence: mainstream newspapers, refereed electronic journals, and university, library, and government collections of data.

.

Does that mean the JAXA source meets criteria for verifiability as a secondary source for the contents of the table?

Each of the launches has further JAXA information linked from there. For the future filling out of citations, most launches have, and will have, English news articles about the mission(s). At this point, the source web page combines launches from multiple facilities including the ESA/CNES Guiana Space Centre.

So what kind of sources of additional citations would be best?

Thanks for your time and help!

--Lent (talk) 08:45, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Lent, If you're relying on one source for all the launches, I would just put something at the top like "this list is sourced from x". As for the lead, it doesn't matter where you get it from as long as it's not a copyright violation (so other parts of wikipedia is fine), I'm just more concerned with their being a lead than anything else. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:07, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
I've put in a lead and a paraphrased version of your suggestion. Thanks! --Lent (talk) 09:39, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Super Legit Records

Hi Sulfurboy, Apologies if I am responding in the wrong place; I'm new to wikipedia and dont know where or how to respond:

While I understand Super Legit Records is not exactly noteworthy, the reason it exists as a page is because it exists as a record label; it has its own releases and published works... I understand that in order to qualify it has to have more media coverage, but at what point should the article be made? Looking at the wikipedia article "list of record labels" as an example, not all of the record labels listed include numerous major works; some have a modest or minor catelogue.

So, at which point SHOULD the wikipedia page for the label be created? Ohrusl (talk) 08:11, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Ohrusl, When it meets our notability guidelines as outlined in the decline message. If you think there is notability issues on other record companies pages, feel free to nominate them. However, their inclusion has no bearing on the page you're trying to create. WP:INN Sulfurboy (talk) 14:06, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Sorry to here that you're racist. I'm afraid we are going to have to cancel you for declining that draft. 😂

–MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 15:12, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

MJL, Hahaha thank you, yeah that was news to me for sure. By their logic, I'm racist to probably every race by now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Sulfurboy (talk) 15:16, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
[Thank you for the ping] Oof, now your triple canceled now. Pretty soon Sulfurboy will be a redirect to Hitler!
btw, you can use {{shrug}} for a simple way to type out ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 15:30, 6 March 2020 (UTC)


A kitten for you!

Dear Sulfurboy, thank you! I was so happy to see that the page I created today about Sharon Macdonald was so quickly and neatly accepted :D I'll polish it further on, but for now, I'll make myself a lovely Friday eve - I wish you a wonderful start into the weekend---Very best, Quellcode

Quellcode (talk) 16:20, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Quellcode, Yay, thank you. Have a good weekend. Sulfurboy (talk) 16:26, 6 March 2020 (UTC)


Request on 16:14:41, 6 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Hellboy69


Hi, I was confused that this entry was deemed not notable.

I can find many pages about authors with similar publishing track records, such as:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Kane_(writer)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Bailey

Can you clarify why those examples are notable?

> Okay, so you're not willing to research others' articles? How narrow minded a view.

> I'd rather not recommend anything for deletion. I thought Wikipedia was a resource, not a regime.

> Have a nice day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hellboy69 (talk • contribs) 16:30, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Hellboy69 (talk) 16:14, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Hellboy69, Did you have a question? Sulfurboy (talk) 16:15, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
Hellboy69, I didn't create those articles, so I don't know. You're welcome to nominate them for deletion if you feel they don't meet notability standards. WP:INN Sulfurboy (talk) 16:26, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Reverted draftification

Hi Sulfurboy, thanks for your request at WP:RFPP. I wanted to explain my decline and subsequent move since the situation is a little weird. The page was created by Hebah1028 and first draftified by Buidhe. Hebah objected to the draftification and attempted to move the page back, but performed a cut-and-paste move instead of using the built-in move function. I've history merged them back into one page. Per the draftification guidelines, if an editor objects to draftification, it should be moved back to article space and listed at AfD. Given all that, I declined create protection and undid your draftification. I don't know much about the topic, so I don't feel comfortable nominating the topic at AFD myself. If you think the article is unsuitable for inclusion, the next step would be nominating the article for deletion or encouraging Hebah to work on the page in their userspace. Thanks for your work reviewing! — Wug·a·po·des​ 22:40, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Wugapodes, That all makes sense and helps clarify things for me moving forward. I appreciate your help and the full explanation. Sulfurboy (talk) 23:24, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello

Could you please let me know what changes are required to accept this article. I am preparing wiki page for my friend who is upcoming actor in South Indian Film industry.

User: Salvadi Actor — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salvadi Actor (talk • contribs) 17:22, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

The Etretat Gardens

I just don't understand why my draft keeps being denied :( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Etretat_Gardens Compared to my previous version, I added so much more sources / references, and written so much more neutral... But still declined without a specific note other than "does not meet requirements". Help?--Robin.de.clercq (talk) 18:59, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Request on 14:50:46, 7 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Bokhan.evgeniy


Dear Sulfurboy, please advise, what I need to change? I saw that it's because of referral link sources. Tell me please the problems were because I took from Russian services? or the quality of these sources? Thank you

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Anastasia_Kochetkova&action=edit Bokhan.evgeniy (talk) 14:50, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Bokhan.evgeniy, Please review WP:RS and remove all unreliable sources. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:10, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Help on better coverage

Hello, I understand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Carmel_Secondary_School may not show significant coverage, for a school, what else should I also include? I understand it may sound like an advertisement before as many references may come from the school itself and it may sound a bit promotional. (I have included more reference that is not from the school itself now) I have improved the tone and hopefully, you can tell me if there's any part still sound promotional/ not neutral enough. This is my first article, and I'm sorry there's quite some mistake. But at the same time, I'm also confused on how to show more significant coverage of the topic, any help would be appreciated. Thank you! Side note, the school has a Chinese Wikipedia page, but since it is an EMI school, I find it suitable to create an English Wikipedia as well. That's why I have decided to create this article ZeroApocalypse (talk) 04:42, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

ZeroApocalypse, If there's not significant coverage of the subject, then it is not notable at this time. Sulfurboy (talk) 22:55, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Segunda Division

Hi Sulfurboy, thank you for responding to my draft, I was befuddled at the article being declined but I did correct that the player in question did play in Segunda division which is a fully professional league. I also added the required references, I do understand that he then went on to play for Segunda division b which is not a fully professional league, but I corrected the appreances he made as requested as a professional. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Gabriel_Kunda_Jr. Vivalionel1 (talk) 11:45, 07 March 2020 (UTC)

Vivalionel1, Its good to be approved. See my note: "The mainspace page is currently page protected, I've requested that to be removed. Once that is done I will move it to mainspace. If its been 48 hours and this hasn't been moved into mainspace please ping me on my talk page and remind me. Note to other reviwers or admins, feel free to move this into mainspace as well." Sulfurboy (talk) 22:55, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Request on 12:25:01, 7 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Alwayslp



Alwayslp (talk) 12:25, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello and thank you for your message. I was wondering if you could please help to direct me to the areas in the draft that need to be revised in more of a encyclopedic tone. Is there a certain sub-header (or sub-headers) more problematic than others or is it the overall entry that needs work? Also, are the references chosen acceptable? Thank you so much for your help and input. Alwayslp (talk) 12:25, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Alwayslp, The whole article needs to be re-written. The page is just a line by line brag about the subject. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:09, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback. Alwayslp (talk) 02:23, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Adelaide Conroy

Thanks for tagging this one. I think that in view of the sources given and the time period, the article deserves to be on mainspace. The editor obviously had access to the sources quoted. The very fact that there was a woman photographer in Valetta as early as 1871 is notable enough.--Ipigott (talk) 08:58, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Samuel Shipman

I've just accepted this. Probably you didn't notice that ref1 is to a full editorial NYT obit, and we have never in the last ten years seen afd delete an article with such a reference (from after the 19th century) DGG ( talk ) 01:21, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

DGG, An oversight by me for sure. Thank you for catching it. Sulfurboy (talk) 07:45, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Dilip Kumar Salvadi and User:Salvadi Actor/sandbox

You declined both of these drafts (with which I agree). I don't know if you noticed that they are of the same person, and describe the same career, but are written slightly differently. One of them is an autobiography. So I don't know if the two drafts were written by the same person (that is, by the subject). This is a case where CheckUser is necessary to see if they are coming from the same IP range. If they aren't the same person, then the other one may be just a fan, but is more likely the actor's agent. I don't know if you happened to notice that they are the same person. I only noticed because I tried to move the sandbox to draft space, and the draft was already there. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:04, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Robert McClenon, Yeah I didn't notice, it likely got lost in the swarm. Looks like their both where they need to be, declined and waiting for improvement Sulfurboy (talk) 07:43, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Yes. If they're the same person, it's sockpuppetry. If they're not the same person, the other one is probably a paid editor, but we can't prove that. As long as they don't do anything except submit non-notable drafts, the system is working at keeping their crud out of the encyclopedia. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:10, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Carl Michalski

Please let me understand your reasoning for declining Draft:Carl Michalski, - not "my" article. I thought we talk sources, not notability? He is mentioned in a book, only I don't have access to the book. He is mentioned - with many references - in the lexicon of the University of Munich. He made recordings with highly notable performers, all sourced. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:55, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Jasper Evangelista

Hi Sulfurboy, can you let me know the key reasons why my submission was declined. It's my first submission. Any suggestion would be much appreciated. Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jillop Criterion (talk • contribs) 09:06, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

User:Jillop Criterion - Do you mean Draft:Jasper Evangelista? It contains too much marketing buzzspeak. Are you being paid by Evangelista? If so, you must declare it. If not, you are writing like a paid editor, and should learn to write like a neutral editor. Ask for advice at the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:15, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Request on 14:22:05, 9 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by DavoGregorious


Hi there - just wondered if you could point me towards what would be considered to be an Independent reference - I included the UK government Dept of Trade - a Government Agency listing which I thought would cover the requirement for a business as detailed in Examples on this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_and_using_independent_sources

You assistance would be much appreciated

DavoGregorious (talk) 14:22, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

DavoGregorious, Its not just a matter of providing sources. Its a matter of providing sources that denote notability. So far that is not the case. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:23, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Cynergy Bank draft

Articles exclusively about the subject have been submitted from the Financial Times, the Times, This Is Money and Bloomberg - all leading independent publications - with an additional reference in an industry "who's who" piece from leading trade magazine, Fintech Futures. I am struggling to see how the article fails to meet Wikipedia's eligibility criteria? There are of course many more that I could add but I want to make sure I choose the right ones. Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Choccodog (talk • contribs) 14:41, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Here is a link to the draft page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Cynergy_Bank — Preceding unsigned comment added by Choccodog (talk • contribs) 14:44, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Choccodog, We need to see significant coverage from secondary sources that doesn't just cover WP:ROUTINE matters Sulfurboy (talk) 15:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Question

I received your message The draft space for this subject currently has page protection I don't know what that means — Preceding unsigned comment added by Plaxico Johnson (talk • contribs) 19:42, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Delia White draft

Hello Sulfurboy, Thank you for reviewing my draft article covering Delina White. I will edit my article again in order to improve the quality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Delina_White

Thank you, Victoria ReyesVictoriareyes19 (talk) 20:31, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

2020-21 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball season

Hey Sulfurboy I need some Help on the Article 2020-21 NCAA Division I Men's basketball season where can i find some proper sources. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 21:59, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Powin energy

I edited the Powin Energy Draft can you check it again? 4kingly (talk) 22:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)Draft:Powin_Energy&action=submit#editform

Sunbonnet Babies

Really disappointed to see that my Sunbonnet Babies article was rejected because it does not show "significant coverage" in a "published, reliable secondary source" Sunbonnet babies appeared in published books and were widely used in schools in the early 20th century. Minnesota History is a reliable, peer reviewed source, so I am not sure how that does not meet the guidelines for a secondary source. Sunbonnet babies are still important in popular culture as a quilting pattern and as collectible books and figurines. Surely if Mack Boatner gets a wikipedia page, Sunbonnet Babies deserve their time in the Wikipedia sun... —Preceding undated comment added 23:47, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

User:Plaxico Johnson/sandbox

Hi, can you please clarify which page "protected" in draftspace are you talking about? Thanks. tLoM (The Lord of Math) (Message) 10:40, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

The Lord of Math This one Draft:Louis L. Reed. Theroadislong (talk) 11:12, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Guidance requested Re-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Afritondo

Hello Sulfurboy,

Many thanks for taking the time to review the above-named draft article. Your feedback was well received. Would you, however, kindly permit me to seek some further clarification on how to demonstrate coverage in secondary independent sources. I had attempted to do this after the first feedback but apparently did not meet the standards. My initial understanding was that I needed to incorporate newspaper articles which I thought I had done the second time (after the first feedback) by including newspaper articles from Daily Trust (a Nigerian paper) and The Herald (Zimbabwe's largest newspaper). Is it a case of needing more newspaper articles or, perhaps, a different source? (Of course, I'll concede that getting African sources, beyond occasional newspaper articles, would be challenge -- but I can try). Your guidance/clarification would be deeply appreciated.

Thanks again and kudos for the work you do. I look forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards,

All4prof (talk) 10:36, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

All4prof, The coverage can't just be WP:ROUTINE. Prize announcements are just routine. Further, announcement such as that don't actually show coverage of the subject, they instead are showing coverage of people who have won the given awards. Sulfurboy (talk) 13:02, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Many thanks for your kind explanation. It is much clearer now. I will seek to make the necessary revisions when I work on the draft again in the coming weeks. All4prof (talk) 14:05, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Paul J. Tesar

Hi Sulfurboy, thank you so much for approving my page for Paul J. Tesar. I am still new and learning the process so I really appreciate everyone’s patience with helping me with this page. I have also been working with AngusWOOF and David notMD. I believe I have now satisfied the requirements for declaring COI. I have declared officially on my talk page and have neutralized the tone of the article. Based on Wikipedia guidelines this should enable the maintenance template to be removed? Could you check the revised page and remove the maintenance template? If there are other things I need to do beforehand, please let me know. Thank you again for all your help! --Marissascavuzzo (talk) 15:18, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

I'm adding more references...

some references were wiped out when somebody simplified my article and they were attached.

is a link to a TV show he appeared on an acceptable source?

any more advice from you is greatly appreciated. ☺ ... Fulber (talk) 20:38, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Loginno Draft

It says right on my user page, and my disclosure page, and my talk page And my about me page that this account is a paid account, and when I submitted the article for creation, I indicated at that time I am a paid editor. What more disclosure is needed? And why did I get a 10 second review of an article that is from reliable shipping container news sites? And how does it “read like an advertisement”, I never said they were a great company or product, I just listed what news articles and they themselves said. There wasn’t any criticism of them to list. Please help me understand what is incorrect. Integritas888 (talk) 20:35, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Integritas888, Disclosure needs to be done on each page you create. The entire article is heavily advertisimal and likely would need to be wholly rewritten to abide the formal, neutral guidelines of Wikipedia. I would advise reading the linked policy pages in the decline message Sulfurboy (talk) 20:41, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Question about a contradictory rejection of an article I wrote about a Catholic parish.

Hi Sulfurboy,

First of all, I'm happy that you were able to review the draft of the article I wrote so quickly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Queen_of_Apostles_Parish This is the first article I've written on Wikipedia and I assumed that it would be allowed to be published because of its similarity to other articles written about other parishes that are in the same diocese that I wrote my article about.

For reference, here is the list of Roman Catholic Diocese of San Jose in California parishes. There are a few, such as, Church of the Transfiguration (San Jose, California) and Saint Joseph of Cupertino Parish that are less in words and in references, yet they were accepted pages into Wikipedia, yet mine, with more references and text, was declined. Why is there a contradiction?

I hope that doesn't come off as adverse or contentious, but this just confused me.

Thank you, William Minker 20:37, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

I didn't create or approve those pages, so I'm the wrong person to ask as to why they are in the mainspace. Also, whether or not other pages exist is not an indication of notability for your page, see WP:INN. We need to see reliable, secondary and significant coverage of the subject to meet our notability standards. If you feel the pages you mentioned are not notable, you are welcome to nominate them for deletion. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:43, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment

I don't know how to respond to your comment explaining the rejection of my article, but thank you for explaining. I doubt that additional secondary sources will become available for my article, as that parish does not receive very much press coverage in the slightest. Once again, thank you for reviewing my article and thank you for the work you do for Wikipedia. I hope you have a great day.

Also, although it is unlikely that I will resubmit my draft for reviewal again, I would like to keep my draft from being deleted, so as to remember the first article I wrote for Wikipedia, albeit a rejected one. To avoid the six-month deletion phase, I'll update the page semi-frequently with new information that I gather and who knows, maybe it'll be good enough for re-submittal again.

Thank you, William Minker 20:58, 10 March 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by WMinker (talk • contribs)

P.S I'm using four tildes to sign, but it doesn't seem that links to my user profile and talk page show up. I'm not quite sure how to add that, for possible easy reference in case someone wants to check out my profile or talk page for some reason. It appears that bot added an unsigned notice, but I thought I did sign it by adding four tildes. That's alright I guess.

About Eligibility about subject 'MortaL' as biography

The reason specified for Speedy Deletion for submission seems inaccurate. It comes under category of influencer/ Youtuber+ Streamer and a well known eSports player. With over 4 Million YouTube subscribers and 1.3 instagram followers with a verified profile. Accordingly to all my knowledge and comparison with articles of other biographies like 'Dr Disrespect, Shroud, Pokimane' exists as a Streamer, I believe the subject "MortaL" should be qualified too as a well known personality SkyVAC (talk) 05:17, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Request on 10:46:41, 11 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Dylanzhang2020


Please provide me with information where can you see advertisement on Chapman Freeborn wiki page? Thank you.

Dylanzhang2020 (talk) 10:46, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Dylanzhang2020, The whole article. Sulfurboy (talk) 13:14, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Celette

Hello Sulfurboy, My submission was rejected for some reason. I guess due to the references I submitted. Could you please help on this how to proceed further? Do I need to add some external references? In case of very less references what would be the result? Since we have only very less external references to post. Please advise.VenkteshN (talk) 12:40, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

VenkteshN, Sorry, but I have no interest in volunteering my time to help those being paid for theirs Sulfurboy (talk) 13:14, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:VenkteshN/sandbox

Thank you.

Quick Question

Hi Administrator

I want to know is there any "draft reviewer" who can also understand urdu english ? for example Draft:Syed Saim Ali i created this article 5 links are in urdu language (Tv channels) such as Samaa Tv , Daily Pakistan , Dunya Tv etc. so can urdu / english references both comes in notability ?

Thanks

Memon KutianaWala (talk) 09:38, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Memon KutianaWala, Your references can be in any language. We're all very familiar with how to read foreign refernces or have people that can review virtually any language. Sulfurboy (talk) 13:15, 11 March 2020 (UTC)


Thanks & God Bless to you sir

Memon KutianaWala (talk) 13:27, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Boris_Berenfeld

I'm responding to your comment of 3/11/20 that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Boris_Berenfeld "will not be considered further." I remain confused and frustrated. I've never submitted an entry before and have been working sincerely to ensure my entry for Boris Berenfeld meets Wikipedia's guidelines. Why am I being permanently rejected when I simply seek a little guidance and clarity? Is there anyone I can turn to for assistance? I remain convinced that Dr. Berenfeld deserves an entry on Wikipedia, like his close colleagues Dr. Robert F. Tinker and Stepan Pachikov. Moreover, I'm not being paid a penny by Dr. Berenfeld or anyone else to prepare his entry. I just need a little help. My situation can hardly be unique. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HarveyYaz (talk • contribs) 15:17, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

You were given multiple chances to improve the article, yet you continually resubmitted it without any major overhauls. Again, the article has been rejected and will not be considered further. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:22, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Request on 16:33:09, 11 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by ElizabethRossouw


Hi there,

I've been working on Kirill Bensonoff's page for a while and it's my first Wiki page. I'm happy to add the disclaimer - I don't work for him directly but I do independent contract work for a company that he has been involved in, and I'm a big fan of the blockchain podcast that he hosts.

Could you please give me some advice on how I can improve the article and make it more suitable for Wikipedia?

ElizabethRossouw (talk) 16:33, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

ElizabethRossouw, The article has been rejected which means it will not be considered any further at this time. Sulfurboy (talk) 16:37, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Research on synchronicity draft page

The draft page for research on synchronicity is in encyclopedic format. It summarizes information in peer-reviewed published psychology journals. The draft is written in a neutral point of view, and refers to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. It does not contain peacock terms.

Compare these two pages:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Research_on_synchronicty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_on_meditation — Preceding unsigned comment added by SymICiEl (talk • contribs) 11:18, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

You have suggested the article does not align with the fundamental principles of Wikipedia. I have read these and they are summarized in five "pillars":

1. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia 2. Wikipedia is written from a neutral point of view 3. Wikipedia is free content that anyone can use, edit, and distribute 4. Wikipedia's editors should treat each other with respect and civility 5. Wikipedia has no firm rules

It is not specified which of these five pillars the article does not align with. In fact, the article is aligned with each of these purposes. It is scholarly, and as such, written from a neutral point of view. Please specify which of the five pillars you think the article is not in agreement with. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SymICiEl (talk • contribs) 22:12, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Russia-Saudi Arabia oil price wa

considereing the amount of press coverage in the NYT and elsewhere, which discuss it as a major economic event, I have accepted the article. DGG ( talk ) 18:52, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

DGG, My major problem with it, and I should have probably clarified in the rejection is the very broad subject title. This oil price war has been going on between the two countries for nearly a century, yet the article covered the news of the last two days which was an overwhelming amount of recentism and felt more like a news article than anything. I'm okay with approval, but some maintenance templates are probably in order. Cheers Sulfurboy (talk) 20:25, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
I changed the title to Russia-Saudi American price war (2020), bu the way MOS:/TITLE and our disambiguation rules work, that's not exactly the right title either. I will let whoeverwants to argue about it. I consider it reasonably predictable that the events of the last few days are worth a separate article, and if not, that's for AfD to decide.The best way to deal with questions o title and scope is in article space, where other people will see it. DGG ( talk ) 23:15, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Answer to your message about possible disclosed payment for Ezlogz draft

Hi @Sulfurboy, with all my respect, I want to assure you that I did decide to write this article voluntarily, with good intentions and good faith to contribute to the Wikipedia world without any expectation of compensation. If you could advise me on how to make it right, I would really appreciate it, since it is my first encyclopedia article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adavolo (talk • contribs) 12:56, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Marisa Calin

Hi. I created a page about author and narrator, "Marisa Calin". It has been rejected because it is "not adequately supported by reliable sources." There IS no more reliable a source than each of the mainstream publishers who have published her work. What more is needed? Thanks.

Audiofan2000 (talk) 17:06, 12 March 2020 (UTC) 3/12/20

Request on 18:22:43, 11 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by BrunetteMarilyn


Hi There, I submitted a page for Gabriel Sloyer but I'm not sure which sources are not reliable? They are all from NYT, Variety, IMDB... whhy are the sources not reliable?

BrunetteMarilyn (talk) 18:22, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

BrunetteMarilyn, Please review WP:RS Sulfurboy (talk) 23:45, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

I think it is time I should stop using Wikipedia. I apologize for everything. I have done nothing but cause problems. Beatleswillneverdie (talk) 21:17, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Rams-Saints Rivalry

Thank you for the assistance for my created rivalry page! - PontiacAurora (PontiacAurora (talk) 17:38, 10 March 2020 (UTC))

how many more references are needed? Fulber (talk) 21:52, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

I've added more sources...magazine and TV. can we publish it now please? is it safe to resubmit? Fulber (talk) 00:29, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Feeling threatened

I feel like I should no longer edit. It has caused nothing but problems Beatleswillneverdie (talk) 21:01, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

(by talk reader) @Beatleswillneverdie: It seems that you brought more enthusiasm than thoughtfulness to your editing. Rather than try to get Wikipedia look the way you want it, instead please appreciate what we've built here and how you can contribute. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:08, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
Beatleswillneverdie, Is your feeling threatened solely in relation to the comments made here? I don't see anything that I would consider a threat, nor do I think Ss112 was trying to make you feel threatened. Although I may disagree with their gruffness, please understand that the passion in the things they said is solely rooted in their interest in the Wikiprojects that they're heavily involved in. Disagreements, even heated ones, are inevitable just as they would be with a friend or sibling or co-worker. If, however, there was someone or somewhere else you were directly threatened then we need to know about that so it can be dealt with and properly reported. Sulfurboy (talk) 01:20, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
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