User talk:Sunray Major

Ambulance

Hi there Sunray Major,

thanks for your contribution to the Ambulance article. I've tidied a few of your edits up to bring them in to article style. However, we will need a few references for them as per the veritability policy, or they will have to be deleted. To help with this, i've tagged the facts which i think need sources. I will look for some sources as well, but if you need any help, please feel free to leave a message on my talk page. Owain.davies 13:16, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I've managed to find quite a few references now, but feel free to add more! The wider the selection of refernces, the better regarded the information will be. Owain.davies 14:30, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your email

Hi there Sunray,

thanks for you email BTW, if you want to use the built in Wikipedia talk, just click on anyone's user name where they sign comments (or in the page history) like this: (Owain.davies 06:52, 17 June 2007 (UTC)) and then at the top of the page, click the tab labelled "Discussion". You can then edit it like any other Wiki page. You also get the option not available on normal pages, where if you click the "+" sign it starts a new heading automatically for you (so whatever you type in the 'subject' line appears as a heading).

As regards posting an emblem of one of the ambulance services, if you want to do that, then i suggest replacing the cross of malta already on the page, as that particular section is already a bit picture heavy. Even better would be posting it to a page about the ambulance service in question.

I quite agree about making it less America-centric, even the UK tends to get squeezed out! My only counsel would be not to go overboard on the Antipodean examples. There was someone a couple of months ago who insisted on putting a kiwi or aussie example on every paragraph! I've come to the conclusion that to illustrate any given point we should use just one country (unless there's a really pressing reason to include more). For instance, in the ambulance article, under "Government funded services", i've removed the aussie reference, because i think that the NHS ambulance service is the best example in the world, where NOBODY pays (which i know isn't the case in australia). BUT, there are plenty of other places where an aussie example could replace a UK or US one. What happens otherwise is some examples i've seen where you end up with 2 paragraphs effectively listing all the countries which do something that way!

One article i think we ought to have, which nobody has attempted yet is "Emergency medical services in Australia" - click it if you'd like to start it! (just make sure that it meets all the wikiguide lines: WP:V, WP:N, WP:MOS, WP:NPOV otherwise someone might quick delete it. The trick is to make sure it has a category - add the text {{Category:Emergency medical services by country}}, and has some external sources (news sites or charity pages are perfect). The key policy to be aware of it that it must be a neutral point of view and it's not what is true - but what you can prove with references.

If you'd like to give the article a go, maybe look at my article Emergency medical services in the United Kingdom for ideas

If you're looking for other articles to edit, then have a look at the list of articles i look after on my main page (click my signature). If you want any more help click here to talk to me! Best Regards Owain.davies 06:52, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

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One more tip...

In order to get an article ready before posting it, why not try creating it a a subpage. Basically you type your user name, a slash and then a name. For instance, an queensland ambulance service one for you would be: User:Sunray Major/Queensland Ambulance. You can edit here in safety, and just post it to the mainspace when it's ready! Owain.davies 09:42, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

As regards the citations, you just need to get 2 external sources sited in the first instance to assert notability - for instance 1 news article and 1 government page would be fine. All the other citations can wait and be added to the page to be filled in later. Best of luck. If you want me to look over any of your articles before you post them to the mainspace, give me a shout! Owain.davies 13:28, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

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Hope you don't mind

I was interested, so i've already stuck my oar in to your EMS in Australia article (sorry about that, i'm a bit impetuous sometimes). I've just tided a few bits up in to the Wikipedia style, done some spelling checks, changed 1st and second person to 3rd person and that sort of thing. I've also given you a head start with a couple of references... When you're writing articles, i'd be careful about the section on 'the future...' as this often strays in to the realms of speculation (i.e. not verifiable) and i know a lot of editors will just strike these sections with extreme prejudice. You could title it 'change to university qualification' to make it more palletable.

Hope you don't mind, and if you want to see what i've done, go to the article, click the 'history' tab and select my version on the right hand selector column, and yours on the left, and click "compare versions". I won't be offended if you put some of it back! Owain.davies 18:19, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

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