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Peter Reith[edit]

Hey! Thanks for adding the infobox to the Peter Reith article. reith is probably as well know as the Workplace Relations minister as for his Defence ministry. perhaps the infobox should reflect his entire parliamentary career? Cheers, Wikipeterproject 07:39, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Penleigh and Essendon Grammar School[edit]

Hey Theworld2, you recently raised neutrality concerns on the PEGS talk page. I support your concerns about staff members removing former students from the alumni list which they think tarnish the schools image and generally trying to turn the article into PR spin. It would be good if you're available and able to join in the discussion with Michael Jongen, the "Head of Libraries". I have also had to semi-protect the article because IPs started edit warring over restoring Jongen's removal of Tweed and the Morans. Your input would be appreciated. Cheers, Sarah 09:48, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello[edit]

Hello Theworld! Are you by any chance a past/present PEGS student? Cheers! 58.107.245.37 07:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Liberal logo on your userpage[edit]

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Australia[edit]

I removed the party affiliations of the PM because I don't see them used in the vast majority of country infoboxes. United States is the most notable exception, but then again most Americans have party affiliations, so that's a somewhat different situation than most countries where party membership is a relative oddity. Kelvinc (talk) 18:15, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't mean party affiliation being an oddity as in the number of parliamentarians without party affiliations is quite large. What I should said is that party membership is an oddity: the ALP has a membership of 50,000 individuals, while the LPA should have a similar number. These 100,000 people are effectively responsible for pre-selecting all but two of the MPs you noted, since they either vote for the party executive or the candidates themselves in nomination meetings (I'm not sure about the specifics, but in Canada most candidates are nominated by constituency party members with some possibly parachuted in by the executive).

By contrast, this is what Politics of the United States says on the matter:

Unlike in some countries, American political parties are very loosely organized. The two major parties, in particular, have no formal organization at the national level that controls membership, activities, or policy positions, though some state affiliates do. Thus, for an American to say that he or she is a member of the Democratic or Republican party, is quite different from a Briton's stating that he or she is a member of the Labour party. In the United States, one can often become a "member" of a party, merely by stating that fact. In some U.S. states, a voter can register as a member of one or another party and/or vote in the primary election for one or another party, but such participation does not restrict one's choices in any way; nor does it give a person any particular rights or obligations with respect to the party, other than possibly allowing that person to vote in that party's primary elections (elections that determine who the candidate of the party will be). A person may choose to attend meetings of one local party committee one day and another party committee the next day. The sole factor that brings one "closer to the action" is the quantity and quality of participation in party activities and the ability to persuade others in attendance to give one responsibility.

In the United States, less than a quarter of the population are not "registered Democrats" or "registered Republicans" (see Image:Party affiliation USA.jpg). In Australia, less than 1% of the population are registered ALP or registered LPA members. That's what I mean by the difference in party affiliation. Kelvinc 17:54, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Another example: primary elections in the US. State governments, not parties, are responsible for holding what is essentially the equivalent of party nomination meetings, and participation is either open to the general public, or closed to the party but the party takes up a significant part of the population anyways. Can you imagine the Queensland state government (for example) running elections for the NP and ALP state party leaders, and then a significant portion of the population taking part, all before the general election? We live in countries where parties work in the system: the US has parties as a part of the system. That's the level of party affiliation I think we're looking for to have leaders' party affiliations added to the boxes. Kelvinc 18:13, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize for going off track. My point is actually this: the overwhelming majority of country infoboxes do not show party affiliations of elected officials. The US is an exception, but I'm trying to say that it's probably because their party system is so bizarrely different from ours, and they seem to label party affiliations on everything that walks on two feet. Generally, if I see party affiliation added where it wasn't before, I would remove it purely for consistency reasons.

As for LPA membership, I'm going from sources like [1]

In case you feel offended by what appears to be misconceptions on my part, at the very least you should look at my old userboxes and take a guess at who I would vote for if I was Down Under. ;-) Kelvinc 09:52, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PS: or to put it another way, I don't know why there's no party affiliations on the boxes myself, and I'm not actually all that against seeing them. But if I was going to change it, I would probably change all 170+ boxes, and that's just way too much work. :-P Kelvinc 10:09, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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