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Wikidata weekly summary #89

Nigel Slater

I was surprised to see no mention of Nigel Slater's sexuality on his page, then noticed the Talk: discussion. I'd like to add a mention that explains the situation but, as you talked about the OTRS case, I figured I should check with you as to whether or not it was adequately clarified.

I've added a paragraph, with careful citations, including to DS's Talk: edit (because I couldn't work out how to reference an OTRS ticket directly) but, if it's still not acceptable, please do just revert my edit (because I have autoconfirmed privileges, so it will already be live).

For your possible convenience, the paragraph itself reads:

While the BBC dramatisation of his memoirs Toast portrayed the adolescent Slater as experiencing same-sex attraction[1][2] and a 2005 interview with the website AfterElton.com described Slater as "openly gay",[3] Slater and his girlfriend objected to a description of him as openly gay on Wikipedia in the past[4] and does not discuss his private life.
  1. ^ "Billy Elliot by Way of Kitchen, With a Pinch of Sweeney Todd". The New York Times. 22 September 2011. Retrieved 21 December 2013.
  2. ^ "Let's Toast a gay chef's coming of age". The Georgia Voice. 28 October 2011. Retrieved 21 December 2013.
  3. ^ "Interview with Nigel Slater". AfterElton.com. 10 January 2005. Archived from the original on 11 February 2005. Retrieved 21 December 2013.
  4. ^ "Talk:Nigel Slater — Openly Gay #2". English Wikipedia. 9 July 2007. Retrieved 21 December 2013.

Please accept my apologies if this is one of those occasions where I should not have been bold. — OwenBlacker (Talk) 13:36, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

This page is not infrequently edited; it is highly updated. Well, there are reverts, but I made one revert prejudicially due to not reading the news. --George Ho (talk) 21:47, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

08:22, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Recreated Deleted Page

Hi - I wanted to give you a heads-up, as you were the deleting admin, that I recreated the previously deleted page Order of the Founders and Patriots of America, which had previously been created by User:Scottrdriver. It appears the original iteration of this page was unsourced and promotional and definitely warranted deletion. I've attempted to rectify those issues in its recreation. DocumentError (talk) 10:39, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Autopatrolled

Hi Tom. User:NotWith has considerable issues with thier mass creations of unreferenced taxonomic stubs and other problmems. They are also uncommunicative. As you accorded the Autopatrolled right a couple of years ago I'm letting you know that if they don't respond to the advice, I am considering removing their Autopatrolled flag. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:00, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

They? --NotWith (talk) 13:05, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know, Kudpung. There's a few issues here. Firstly, yes, the articles NotWith has started need sources. I've added a few. That said, I'd like to hear from NotWith before removing their autopatrolled status. They seem to be adding a lot of content, and I'd much rather if they are were given the opportunity to discuss their changes before we go straight for sanctions. I'd rather not alienate someone who is trying to improve Wikipedia in this area if we could have a discussion about how they can improve their editing first. So, what say you, NotWith? —Tom Morris (talk) 16:25, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
They? --NotWith (talk) 17:57, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Would you prefer "he", "she", "it"? (Is there any point to this?) —Tom Morris (talk) 17:58, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Tom, 'autopatrolled' is not an award of merit for having created a certain number of articles. It was designed to relieve some of the work for the page patrollers. If this is o longer working and patrollers still need to review red flagged articles in the page feed, than I feel the Autopatrolled 'right' should be removed.
As a retired professional linguist and author of published works on lexicography, there is no need for my grammar to be questioned. The word 'they' (with its counterparts them, their, and themselves) as a singular pronoun to refer to a person of unspecified sex has been used since at least the 16th century. In the late 20th century, as the traditional use of he to refer to a person of either sex came under scrutiny on the grounds of sexism, this use of they became more common. It is now generally accepted in contexts where it follows an indefinite pronoun such as anyone, no one, someone, or a person, as in anyone can join if they are a resident and each to their own. In other contexts, coming after singular nouns, the use of they is now common, though less widely accepted, especially in formal contexts. Sentences such as ask a friend if they could help are still criticized for being ungrammatical. Nevertheless, in view of the growing acceptance of they and its obvious practical advantages, 'they' is used in this dictionary in many cases where he would have been used formerly. - Oxford American Dictionary. :) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 21:49, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
I have no objection to removing autopatrolled. —Tom Morris (talk) 00:14, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #90

Holiday out-of-office autoreply, brought to you by bureaucracy

I'm away this weekend. I'll be out-of-contact. If the wiki blows up or you decide you want to rope me into some kind of dramapocalypse, I won't be responding until Monday. Play nicely, everybody. —Tom Morris (talk) 07:20, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

08:40, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Prix Tour-Apollo Award

Yesterday you added an "unreferenced" tag to the article Prix Tour-Apollo Award. Having some general interest in the award (I do a bunch of the awards stuff for the ISFDB), I worked on the page today, added additional information, a handful of citations, and some links. I believe that it is now eligible to have that "unreferenced" tag removed. Furthermore, the page also had a "Lit-award-stub" tag on it, which I would also nominate for removal. I think this page has pretty much everything on it that is reasonable to include. The French Wikipedia page includes a few other details, such as the names of the people on the jury, but I don't see anything there that is important enough to an English audience to import to this page. (And I did include a link to that page.) Darrah (talk) 22:21, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Darrah: That seems pretty good to me. Thanks for the hard work in adding references. I'll remove the {{unreferenced}} template. Thanks again. —Tom Morris (talk) 10:55, 30 December 2013 (UTC)