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Sievierodonetsk[edit]

My keyboard & the autocorrection maimed my comment on the revert, so I ask it here: Please add the specific ref / link, otherwise we have no idea what you are talking about. Applodion (talk) 18:01, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It’s the same reference, the interview with Reznikov. Around the 12:20 mark. Tomissonneil (talk) 18:04, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your patience and the expansion. I hope that my reverts did not frustrate you too much; it's just that the articles on the Russo-Ukrainian War attract a lot of bad faith edits, so I was overcautious regarding your additions. Applodion (talk) 18:18, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I undid your removal per wp:KDL. Adakiko (talk) 04:23, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Addition of unsourced information[edit]

Hello Tomissonneil, I have viewed some of your contributions in some 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine articles, and there are many issues in them, especially the addition of unsourced information regarding casualties and the use of B or C rate sources for the same criteria. When makings claims of a enemy combatant Reliable Sources should be considered or used, please avoid adding strange numbers(ie 5,7,17) in this type of articles. Mr.User200 (talk) 11:48, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a false edit summary, your source never state your change What are you playing?.Mr.User200 (Mr.User200) 11:56, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What am I playing? The Russians were claimed to have 3 times the number of men the Ukrainians had. You, on the other hand, went through each of my edits, all backed by numbers provided by an advisor to the Ukrainian President, and removed the ones you don’t like. While the numbers may not be accurate, they’re what the Ukrainians have released up till now. If you have a better source, by all means add it in, but if not, then please stop removing sourced information and replacing it with nothing. Tomissonneil (talk) 16:38, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please indicate in the source you provided the excerpt that say Russian forces have 120,000–150,000 men in the frontline.Mr.User200 (talk) 19:01, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61145578 This source by the BBC states that the Ukrainians had about 40,000-50,000 troops at the beginning of the battle. The source I included said that the Russians outnumbered them three-to-one. Therefore, 120,000-150,000. Also, I don’t understand why you don’t think a Ukrainian government source linked to the president isn’t authentic, or why you locked the pages to prevent me or anyone else from including it. Again, you replaced it with NOTHING. You just don’t like it. Unless a better source comes along, such as the Russians actually releasing their casualty figures, it’s all that’s available at the moment. Tomissonneil (talk) 21:20, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Indicate in your source the part that literally says that Russia have 120,000-150,000 deployed. Even if it says it's three to one, I simply can't find it, it doesn't means we have to assume or imply the analyst of your source took as real the BBC number. You are just creating numbers and using one source as the justification.Mr.User200 (talk) 00:09, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If you say so, as if using two sources to come to a conclusion is “ creating” numbers. But you know what’s not? Using Ukrainian government sources in the pages to show what they claim Russian casualties are. You know what I put after each source? “Ukrainian claim”, because the numbers are what the Ukrainians claimed them to be, not as a final count. After all, the Russians rarely, if ever, release their casualty figures. But simply putting “unknown” when there are indeed numerous casualty claims, and then locking the page so that no one can change it because you don’t like the sources, even if new information comes out, is wrong. Tomissonneil (talk) 01:05, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

December 2022[edit]

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Talk page blanking[edit]

Hi, I noticed that you recently blanked one of the sections on my talk page. Is there a reason for this? The edit can be reinstated, but this is your first warning for blanking / removing content on others’ talk pages. PilotSheng (talk) 06:34, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Edit— I just saw your initial edit and I thought that you just removed a random section. No worries, but still try to refrain from doing that. Personally I have no problem with Arestovych, and I was the one who put his claim in the battle of bakhmut (bob) article. I’ll slide it into the avdiivka article soon PilotSheng (talk) 06:36, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@PilotSheng My apologies! I didn’t actually intend to remove anything, I was editing my paragraph, but my phone was freezing up, and I guess I accidentally removed it while trying to unfreeze it. Yet another reason why I hate editing on mobile haha. Thank you for bringing this to my attention, and yes, what I originally wrote does still stand. Tomissonneil (talk) 22:06, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Vandalism warning[edit]

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Please refrain from removing sourced information from wikipedia articles. I assumed good faith at first, but since you've removed the content twice again, and replaced it with out of date information, I have to assume you've been watching the edit history and know all citations are in the article by now. If you have a problem with the validity of a major newspaper or official, please use the talk page. LeVivsky (ಠ_ಠ) 21:42, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You’re the vandal. You’re the one vandalizing the page, and you’ll be receiving your own warning. Tomissonneil (talk) 21:44, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've been completely transparent and cited all information. You know this. At this point it just flatly looks like you're deleting sources for the heck of it. Saying in your edits "its not whats in the sources" is a blatantly untrue statement when you know it is at this point. LeVivsky (ಠ_ಠ) 21:55, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I did? You didn’t add the 70,000 source until AFTER your flagged me. You just changed it from 70,000 to 80,000 without adding it previously. And I didn’t delete any sources, I just reverted the figures. You’re now falsely accusing me of things in order to insult me, rather than actually attempting to discuss this with me to see what my view was. Tomissonneil (talk) 22:01, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I dont know why you're saying that, I added the citation before restoring the infobox edit, and my edit summary even said I was adding a citation.:/ You then immediately said the info wasn't in the sources (not true) and accused me of "disruptive editing" (also not true). Nothing I've accused has been false, and if you want to point out what isn't, go ahead. LeVivsky (ಠ_ಠ) 15:09, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

June 2023[edit]

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Battle of Bakhmut[edit]

Why did you remove this as well? Also, a former US Military commander’s report being removed just because of where he posted it rather than the information it contains is ridiculous, and you know it.

See WP:RS and WP:TWITTER. Kleuske (talk) 10:43, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Per MOS:CQ, we do not use curly quote marks. I have noted that you have been consistently using curly quote marks in your edits such as in this edit here. Could you please not use curly quote marks in future. Cinderella157 (talk) 22:59, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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