User talk:Tonywalton/Jul-Aug-2006

Roade

Thanks. I hoped somebody would rise to the bait so that I wouldn't have look for an existing case to copy. Did you find it from my description, or do you know Roade anyway? --Concrete Cowboy 22:27, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

User:The Office

Thank you. This guy is really starting to irritate me. He said that it was a matter of his human rights (per article 18 of the Universal Dec. of Human Rights) to post crap on wikipedia! I really don't know some times... Ruaraidh-dobson 11:26, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

• I genuinely can't tell whether this guy's serious or not. I gave in to temptation and emailed him - reasonably politely, I thought. Still waiting on a reply. Ruaraidh-dobson 11:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

• I don't think you will though - in his reply email, he asked if I was Jewish. Just another nutball, I guess. Ruaraidh-dobson 11:45, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

• Yep, many's the time I've been called 'Rabbi' by people from confusion... That said, I do enjoy Seinfeld. Ruaraidh-dobson 11:50, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

• This guy doesn't quit - apparently "Christian Intelligence" is going to trace me and bring me before his court, as I have committed a criminal offence in the "Kingdom of God". And he's going to take legal action against wikipedia. I have no idea - maybe he's actually crazy? Ruaraidh-dobson 12:30, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

• Hmm... he has been banned for 48 hours, so I'm going to assume good faith and believe that the poor guy's just crazy. I think he believes it all too. Really needs a therapist. Ruaraidh-dobson 12:49, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• True enough, but he's certainly never goig to do anything about it. Maybe he'll order invisible minions to sue wikipedia... Ruaraidh-dobson 12:51, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

• Hilarity! - I just got this email:

Subject: Legal Notice Body: The charges you are now facing is anti-Japhetism and defamation, connecting with a STATUTORY violation of Article 18 of the Human Rights, and all States and persons are subject thereto.

I would appreciate if you pass my message to the "admins" or better to the management of Wikipedia to discuss the issue.

The legal notice is deemed to be officially served to Wikipedia hereby.

• Good point. I'll send it to him, but I think he's in his own little world. Ruaraidh-dobson 13:17, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Piugmene

<sarcasam>I think we better unblock him or he won't come back and think what a loss for Wikipedia that would be.</sarcasam> CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 12:08, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure he'll be back anyway. It' just too much fun getting us all riled up. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 12:19, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Translation

Thanks for helping out with the German translation! sinc., --Soman 14:51, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

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Aha

Why you revert edit it give Uzerbaaji credit no --Uzerbaaji 09:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

aha 2

I went credit for my editings. I derseereve credits. No person willing is to look with (at) the history. No persons will know tat Uzerbaaji (I) made a good editing. I want to give Uzerbaaji's (my) engrwish to wikipeida. --Uzerbaaji 09:51, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

اريد هل استطيع ان افضل لكن لا استطيع لانني الاوزبكيه. هناك الوقاحه الي هذا ويكيبيديا الاوزبكيه. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Uzerbaaji (talk • contribs) .

aha 3

I wish i not cussed with bad engrlish. I try hard. Tutor Trovissky cane me when I cannot do work. I need work hard for Tutor.

اريد هل استطيع ان افضل لكن لا استطيع لانني الاوزبكيه. هناك الوقاحه الي هذا ويكيبيديا الاوزبكيه. stand for Do I want the best I can, but I can not because I Uzbek. There is the audacity to this Ekebedia Uzbek. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Uzerbaaji (talk • contribs) .

aha 4

The wikipedia (uzbek) is empty and has unateendence with small (not many) admun. arabic (uzbek type) is with not compatiabling with arabic wikipedian. I want to have a admin statings (status). --Uzerbaaji 10:13, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

aha 5

I cite my reference how? --Uzerbaaji 12:55, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

aha 6

Source is to not common to you Amerucan because it is Uzbek type foodstuff and USA proberley get no Uzbek(istan) foodstuffs in big( super) store {supermarket}. No citation needed for myne article becouse Americaan do not know of Uzbekeistan foodstuff. --Uzerbaaji 13:02, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

aha 7

Taroviake", "Desipenov" or "Jahala chicken" is english letertter type font convert from uzbek arabic scriptions --Uzerbaaji 13:04, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

aha 8

There many foodstuffs that human beleing not seen yet. Uzbekeistan very remote from Amerccian or United Kongdom or Austaliera. Most of foods I writing about is rural foodstuffs. Western peoples dont not know aboot Uzbek rural foodstyuffs.

I tink you ameircna (usa person) due two vast americaniers on net --Uzerbaaji 13:13, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Uzerbaaji

I have added to the test4 the following in Russian (hoping he understands it better than Eglish):

Dear Uzerbaaji. If you come he to troll, you are to be banned soon. If you want to participate, then with you current level of English you better start with something realistic : look for factual errors, provide references, etc. If you want to write article, may be it would be better on http://ru.wikipedia.org or http://uz.wikipedia.org ? abakharev 08:34, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

The user is most probably a troll, but I want to account for a slim chance he is a genuine newbie. abakharev 08:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I troll? No trolling for mme. I do this for pass vostok english house. wikipedia can help pass vostok englidh house ok? --Uzerbaaji 08:58, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

User blocked by Abakharev. Tonywalton  | Talk 09:09, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Recently Added "Century Beta"

Hi. I apologize for creating the page Century Beta. What I will do in the future is create this page in the SandBox, thereby allowing me to simply view my page and copy and paste it into my computer, and submit it once it has acquired more information, making it suitable for a corporation page in your archives. I apologize for any inconvenience, and look forward to talking to you soon. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Robh 214 (talk • contribs) .

Don't be shy

Thank you so much for your input! :) Once I'm done with my other activities, I'm going to head back over to WP:SHY and see about trying to give it some more focus. I'm in a bit of a dilemma over focusing it entirely on the talk pages and other community features, or also including article editing. Currently, my thoughts are that there's not much that can be said for editing but a small mention might be worthwhile (especially with respect to edit summaries), then focus the rest of the essay on the community features. LinaMishima 13:57, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

and a very good idea too! - you, good sir, know how to make a lady smile ^^ LinaMishima 14:09, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

UB40

You are obviously well informed about Unemployment Benefit documentation ! Well done for amending the UB40 article wording accordingly.

However, having seen what names some so-called groups use these days, I am not too sure that ES40JP is a bad idea. I can see it now. "This week's number one is "Hip Hop Yo" from ES40JP featuring Derek R Bullamore and the Wiki Crew" !!??!

Regards,

Derek R Bullamore 19:03, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Miss Seki

Hi: had it been written in French or Italian, or at a pinch in Gerrman I would have understood it. Although the similarity is great, I have trouble with Spanish. But it didn't look right.--Anthony.bradbury 13:48, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Vaya con Dios.--Anthony.bradbury 13:58, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Location

Hi: now Latin I can do, more or less. No, I'm based on the South Coast. Did you not see my individualised userbox on my userpage? It took hours!--Anthony.bradbury 14:04, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

True; as I said, i am not good on Spanish.--Anthony.bradbury 14:16, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Weird autoblock

I'm from Sydney, but wikipedia described me as having a different address than I really have. Andjam 14:43, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Sikhism

Hi there: Certainly I have no intention of showing bias against Sikhs or anyone else. I am very happy with your suggestion. I have to go to work right now, but will make the changes later unless you would care to do it, with which I am happy.--Anthony.bradbury 16:52, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Your Comments on User:Harisingh

You said this regarding the article: SGGS on Meat

"Your statement that the article "is in support of" something is in itself a violation of the Wikipedia principle that articles must not espouse a particular point of view. You might also like to visit this page, particularly this section. If you would like to reword the article, removing attempts at advocacy of your point of view and reporting on what the Guru said the article may survive; note that as well as neutrality verifiability is an absolute criterion for an article to be incuded. Note also that the excuse that "although this article esposes a point of view others to which it links do not" is unacceptable; every article on Wikipedia must meet the criteria for inclusion on its own. Apart from anything else there is absolutely no guarantee that a reader of a particular article will visit any of the articles it links to. Finally may I draw your attention to the statement on all edit screens that If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit it.. Your stricture on the article attempting to limit what edits may be made is therefore meaningless. Tonywalton | Talk 12:47, 19 August 2006 (UTC)"

Reply by User:Harisingh

Many thanks for your comments on the SGGS on Meat. I would appreciate if we carry on the discussion at your user page as otherwise we will lose track of what is going on and this discussion is instigated by your action. I have marked your talk page "On Watch" so I will know whenever a change takes place here.

Well as suggested by User:Anthony.bradbury, I have listed below articles on Christianity which refer to original text from the holy Bible just as the article my me – I would like you to look at these article and do the same as you did to the article on Sikhism. Please have these texts removed as well as they support a POV and hence are "non-encyclopedic" as he sais and you supported. I would like you to do the same with these articles as they are creating the same violation? Do you agree or not? Or do you have a different excuse here?

List of articles using original text from the Bible:

• Parable of the Leaven four quotation from the holy text

• Parable of the Weeds 3 quotes

• Parable of the Pearl 2 quotes
• Parable of the Hidden Treasure
• Parable of Drawing in the Net

• The Fall of Man one long quote plus small ones?

• Parable of the Faithful Servant 1 quote

Surely you should now go and put the same or similar message on all these articles. I will be adding to the list above as I feel that you are letting your inherent prejudice drive your actions. Please these article and see what does thro your mind!! --Hari Singh

As you also put a delete message on the article SGGS on Meat, I have transferred all discussion to the Talk:SGGS on Meat and copy to your user page as well to keep you informed:

Reply by User:Anthony.bradbury to User:Harisingh

Your suggestion that i should add links to other articles at your suggestion is just not going to happen. If you wish to add tags to them yourself you are at perfect liberty, under the rules of Wikipedia, to do so.--Anthony.bradbury 17:33, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Reply by User:Harisingh to User:Anthony.bradbury

Remember you put up the message on the article – I did not!! – Now when I show you similar "violations" – Why do you behave in a different manner? Is it your inherent prejudices against other peoples and religions? By putting up the message, you made a ruling by that decision - quoting from the holy text should not be allowed – Now, Is it one rule for Sikhism and a different rule for Christianity? I am concerned by you exercising double standards – Perhaps you do the same in your everyday life? It’s a very poor NHS if you do!! --Hari Singh 18:01, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Reply by User:Harisingh

You said: "Please do not refactor discussions on other peoples' talk pages. If you do this again I shall report it as vandalism. Thank you. Tonywalton  | Talk 18:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)"

My Repy is:

SGGS on Meat: Please do, if that's what you think it is - You have collaborated with another user regarding this matter and bringing these matters to your attention is not called vandalism in my book – perhaps it is in your?

Did you not take part in and have discussion in connection with this article? Did you not tag this article - SGGS on Meat? Did you not communicate with User:Anthony.bradbury? Then why are you so touchy about being kept informed about the on going material and the progress in this matter? How can you call it vandalism? The meaning of Wikipedia:Vandalism is "any addition, deletion, or change to content, made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of the encyclopedia." How does the copy of this message "compromise the integrity of the encyclopedia" – Please get serious?? You cannot interfere with articles done by a User and then shout "Vandalism" when the User responds on your talk page as a direct result of your interference!

Perhaps you do not want to be kept informed about the outcome of your actions and the knock on effect that this has on other things? It is strange that you have the time to deal with this trivial matter rather than the reply to my substantial posting from before? Why have you not addressed that matter? A matter that is of substance and is more relevant?

Why have you not replied to that posting that has been directed at you? You appear to have the guts to tag this article – what about the hundreds of article on Christianity that quote directly from the holy Bible? Why don't you tag those articles? But only articles on Sikhism? That's the substance in this discussion - not the games that you want to play? Please address the important matters that have substance in this discussion rather than these trivial issues that are of little importance to anyone but you!! (cc to talk:SGGS on Meat) Best regards --Hari Singh 20:34, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Ankit Fadia meatpuppetry

Yes. The message says Please provide valid reasons in the above link but none of them are providing a valid reason except stating that he is a fraud. Actually, Fadia has a star status in schools and colleges in India due to his success at so young an age. Many people do think that his book is a sort of fraud and that he is a star created by the media. But the fact is that he is famous and that his first book was a best-seller. Thanks for keeping a close eye on that AfD. It is 1 AM here, and I must get some sleep. Have a nice day. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 19:24, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Tone

Tony, although you were correct in asking Harisingh not to refactor other users' talk pages without their permission, I would like you to consider the notion that it was not a good idea to threaten to report him as a vandal if he does it again. Clearly he had the best of intentions when he did so; your phrasing was such that it seemed hostile and aggressive. Hostility and aggression are devoutly to be avoided here, thank you.

I'm looking into the SGGS issue (I have no idea what it's about yet), and I hope that I can get things settled to your mutual satisfaction. DS 20:43, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

RFA thanks

Thanks so much for your support on my RFA, which closed successfully this morning with a result of (64/3/3). I will be stepping lightly at first trying to make sure I don't mess up too badly using the tools. Any further advice/guidance will be gratefully accepted. I hope I will live up to your trust! NawlinWiki 11:22, 26 August 2006 (UTC) talk contribs