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Dear TurboForce,

How can I contact with you? this page is good for me.

I am a newbie in Linux I have a question : why Linux don't have Installer for applications as windows? I know it have Installer , but it depends on Internet I am talking like windows: I download what ever application and by clicking on it on Linux it begin installation.

waiting your answer Thanks HerQule.

I'm not a Linux expert, so I can't give you a proper answer. Best use the package manager or contact your Linux distributor. TurboForce (talk) 15:05, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Section "Security concerns"

In the new section you just added to Criticism of Microsoft Windows, you use the "Windows Virtual DOS Machine (VDM) vulnerability" as an example of a security vulnerability that wasn't patched for a long time. While that is strictly true, it wasn't patched because it wasn't known for 17 years. Your text however seems to suggest that is was known, but 'deliberately' remained unpatched by Microsoft... Which is not true (your own source says: "He reported the bug to Microsoft more than seven months ago."). Can you please correct this? --DanielPharos (talk) 07:20, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

I'll do my best. TurboForce (talk) 12:16, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Yep, that'll do fine. Thanks! --DanielPharos (talk) 07:23, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

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This has been resolved. For anyone reading: check you have done everything properly BEFORE you actually upload the image. Correcting mistakes afterwards is somewhat tricky if you are not familiar with editing the image information later. TurboForce (talk) 11:48, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

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Looks like someone may have done this already? Shame that Wikipedia does not make you fill in a "form" asking for the relevant information BEFORE accepting the upload of an image. If this image gets removed, I will be asking around for help. It's only a screenshot. TurboForce (talk) 11:52, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

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Hi could you check out the Afd for Schenecker double homicide it totally up to you to say Keep or Delete. But for me personally is a clear cut case Keep just like with Murder of Joanna Yeates.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:20, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Having quickly read that page, it's a tragic incident which has occurred in the USA. I don't know how much media coverage the case has attracted nor do I know how strongly people there feel about having the page kept on Wikipedia. In cases such as the Murder of Joanna Yeates and the Disappearance of Suzy Lamplugh, the media coverage was extensive for both, and in other cases such as the Fritzl case, again, it has been kept on Wikipedia as a result of media coverage and it's a tragic event which many people remember. If you feel the AfD (article for deletion) should be kept/Keep, please tell people why. TurboForce (talk) 23:32, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Citation spam

Please take a note of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Spam#Citation_spam and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Spam#External_link_spamming with reference to the pressure cooker article - it's no excuse to say that nobody has suggested better citations. The point is that the article should not be incorporating so much irrelevant material in the first place! It's supposed to be about a particular piece of technology, it's not a cookery magazine. Thanks. Archstanton (talk) 22:02, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

I would like to see you write the pressure cooking article better. I've worked very hard editing that page and nobody else has been a jobsworth like you. Cheeky sod! TurboForce (talk) 20:50, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

The most recent links were added by another user. The citations I've added to that page are links to pages with just factual information only. TurboForce (talk) 20:56, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

I see there are only 2 ref links on that page, but these are now book references, one of which replaces the previous ref link about using cooking oil to minimise foaming. The pressure cooking page has been the most difficult page when it comes to finding and using ref links which nobody argues about! TurboForce (talk) 21:57, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Pegasus

Question: I stumbled upon this page, where you added the Wine screenshot. Why did you do that? Nowhere in the article I can find any mention of cross-platform, Linux or Wine. Thus it's completely non-relevant, and might even be considered original research! Could you maybe provide a reference that this 'feature' of Pegasus Mail is somehow important, or at least write some supporting text for the picture? --DanielPharos (talk) 11:32, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

It's the same screenshot used on the page about the Wine compatibility layer. The screenshot has to be labelled truthfully i.e. Pegasus Mail is not running in Windows. The Pegasus Mail Wiki does mention Wine: [1]. TurboForce (talk) 21:22, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

So I assume you're going to add that link with some text to the Pegasus Mail article now? Thanks! --DanielPharos (talk) 10:25, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

I've edited the Pegasus Mail page with ref links about it working in Linux using Wine. TurboForce (talk) 16:32, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Nice work! --DanielPharos (talk) 19:05, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Cheers! :) TurboForce (talk) 21:58, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

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I wish Wikipedia would put a big warning banner in place if a user uploads an image which is considered copyright. It is my OWN work, so I've removed the copyright. Image uploading on Wikipedia needs to be improved to avoid all this confusion!

Edit warring

Can you please explain why you uncivilly threatened an edit war? Edit warring is never acceptable.Jasper Deng (talk) 03:44, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Short answer is because I've spent months and many hours of work, during my spare time, on editing the Comparison of Windows and Linux page, only to have a bunch of Windows fanboys remove all that hard work I put into improving that page, just because they don't like the truth about Windows being crap, because the truth hurts. Even my valid ref links were taken away because these fanboys are jealous. The edit war will continue! TurboForce (talk) 11:28, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Just a thought, but WP:EW will get you blocked, WP:Consensus works better. With some help from neutral editors WP:NPOV problems in articles usually get solved pretty fast. - Ahunt (talk) 12:33, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

TurboForce, do you think saying things like "Windows being crap" is adhering to a neutral point of view? Please think before you make such comments (because they violate our civility policy). Don't game the system for your own purpose, nor edit war, even if you believe you are right. If you didn't want what you inserted changed mercilessly, don't edit it in (there's a small note below the Save page button that says that). If you edit war, I will report it and have you blocked. Instead of that, which most certainly wouldn't make you a happy camper here, let's try consensus.Jasper Deng (talk) 16:29, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. I'm just VERY angry that months' and hours' of my work on the Comparison of Windows and Linux page has been destroyed in a just a few minutes! I had used ref links in all the right places and for a long time, nobody had a problem with any of it. Now a few individuals have have pushed my patience too far! TurboForce (talk) 14:58, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Patience is a virtue, especially on Wikipedia.Jasper Deng (talk) 15:35, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

"nobody had a problem with any of it." Did you just call me a nobody?  ;) --DanielPharos (talk) 17:05, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

LOL – I see the funny side too. :P

I'm going to have a short break from Wikipedia. Hours and hours of perfection does get tiring. I do plan to edit Wikipedia for many years to come, but I do need a break right now as I do a lot of typing on computers. I've been touch typing for about 14 years now! Just imagine how many characters I've typed on keyboards during that time! :)

Cheers for reading. TurboForce (talk) 22:08, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Neutral point of view

[2], [3], [4] - please see the WP:UNDUE section of WP:NPOV. The fact that Microsoft needs to patch at all means that readers will not think Windows is more secure than it really is.Jasper Deng (talk) 22:29, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

The article has been edited recently and it's very carefully worded to make it appear that Windows is patched quicker. I have included examples which proves that this not always the case. TurboForce (talk) 11:20, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

I disagree-the wording in no way is carefully worded. I'm sure you would oppose me adding a link to a linux virus.Jasper Deng (talk) 17:06, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit warring on Comparison of Windows and Linux

Your recent edits seem to have the appearance of edit warring after a review of the reverts you have made on Comparison of Windows and Linux. Users are expected to collaborate and discuss with others and avoid editing disruptively.

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Incivility warning

I've asked you to refrain from incivility, which you continue to display. Please refrain from incivility. If you continue you are likely to get blocked.Jasper Deng (talk) 17:12, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Note

You have been mentioned at User talk:Worm That Turned.Jasper Deng (talk) 03:07, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi TurboForce. I've had a look at the sections in question. Whilst there are no personal attacks, there are several points of incivility in your posts - including WP:SHOUT, agressive tone and so on. Please ensure you tone these comments down - this is meant to be a collaborative environment.

Whilst I'm on the subject, I feel the need to remind you that wikipedia is not a warzone. Please drop the battleground mentality, and work together with the editors in question to produce a neutral article. Worm^TT · (talk) 13:00, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

OKAY OKAY. If I see *any* unfair bias on Wikipedia pages, such as the currently disputed Comparison of Windows and Linux page, then I *will* complain very loudly until it's addressed. TurboForce (talk) 22:40, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Hey TurboForce. Besides the fact that you've unnecessarily bolded your comment there, I just like to thank you for acknowledging what I was saying. If you are finding "unfair bias", then that is a worry - we're trying to create an encyclopedia written from a neutral point of view - and if you feel an article is written from a biased point of view, perhaps it would be a good idea to write a report at the NPOV noticeboard. You could also ask for a third opinion, or even start a request for comment if there's certain points that need addressing. I'm afraid I can't help that much from a content point of view, as I'm a touch busy over the next few days. Worm^TT · (talk) 08:12, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm not agreeing with TurboForce's approach or manner, but I would like to highlight that there are without doubt editors with corporate and/or financial interest in Microsoft who will never portray a neutral point of view, no matter how sugarcoated and practised their responses. These editors are also no doubt paid to be fully aware of the multitudes of Wikipedia policies and to take advantage of them in talk page arguments Wikipedia:Gaming_the_system. Wikipedia proclaims to be an idealistic platform, but there is little acknowledgement for the hard work of volunteers that may be easily thwarted by corporate interests. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.129.23.146 (talk) 10:05, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

I totally agree with the previous comment left by an anonymous user. I'm not the only person who notices that there are editors with some corporate and/or financial interest in Microsoft, who will carefully break the neutrality of pages, especially the Comparison of Windows and Linux page. These Microsoft advocates wreck pages and destroy many hours of volunteers' work on Wikipedia, in order to carefully lie about the truth, but stay within the rules of Wikipedia. TurboForce (talk) 18:20, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Like - Ahunt (talk) 19:15, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

And you assume that I'm the one who wrote all of Microsoft's ads...Jasper Deng (talk) 20:00, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Anyone who carefully writes things in favour of Microsoft — AND AT THE SAME TIME — makes every effort possible to discredit Linux, will of course be part of these shenanigans. TurboForce (talk) 20:30, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

You have been mentioned again at User talk:Worm That Turned.Jasper Deng (talk) 22:54, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Neutral point of view

Please refrain from violating WP:NPOV. Wikipedia talk pages are not for you to go on rants about Windows. Userrup and I are not employees of Microsoft - please assume good faith with our actions. You have not listened to my previous notes about NPOV violations by you - please do. For the last time, your definition of biased is biased itself.Jasper Deng (talk) 16:52, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Assume Good Faith

Hi TurboForce, Although at times you may be frustrated please remember to assume good WP:FAITH towards your fellow wikipedians and to be WP:NICE. It does not help you to engage in WP:PERSONAL attacks; that includes accusations without evidence that someone has a POV. Cheers, IRWolfie- (talk) 21:38, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Yeah you're right. It is *very* frustrating editing Wikipedia at times! If anyone is lying on here, I will fight until the truth comes out. TurboForce (talk) 21:48, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a fight or battle.Jasper Deng (talk) 21:52, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Criticism of Microsoft Windows#Security concerns - shatter attack

Just to explain my edit: The two refs you linked are for Windows XP and Windows 2000. The shatter attack article clearly mentions major improvements and changes in Windows Vista, which largely if not entirely fix or mitigate this form of attack. So you can't claim Microsoft dismissed it and didn't fix it, since they did fix the problems mentioned in your refs.

I put the refs in the shatter attack article, since they are nice finds!

Also, please try to keep your edit-summaries neutral and free of personal attacks. --DanielPharos (talk) 09:43, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm glad my ref links were useful and thanks for adding them to the shatter attack page. Microsoft did deny the problem in the beginning and the shatter attack has not been completely resolved. This should be mentioned in the criticism of Microsoft Windows page. I will change the ref link to the archived version of the original paper here, because this one has the working links, such as the e-mail to Microsoft about the problem. TurboForce (talk) 12:48, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

They did not deny the problem, they denied that it was a flaw in Windows; the shatter attack article has the full quote. And it's quite obvious why it took until Windows Vista before this problem was addressed: that's the first major new version of Windows released after the discovery of this attack. (Due to backwards compatibility issues, they couldn't resolve it earlier.)

If you can 'prove' (with refs, of course) that the attack has not been completely resolved (and that this is the fault of Microsoft), you should add it back to the article. (And don't forget to add it to the shatter attack article too!) --DanielPharos (talk) 15:03, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

I have not found any 'proof' that this shatter attack has been completely fixed; if that's true, then it's a valid criticism that the shatter attack weakness has existed in Windows for nearly 2 decades and could not be "fixed" very quickly as this would break too many programs. I'm not aware of any other operating systems that currently have (or had in the past for a long time) a security vulnerability that either cannot be fixed or takes many years to fix, because fixing it would break too many existing programs. Interesting topic. TurboForce (talk) 19:26, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

The "mega confusion"

At the end, you subtract the boy's 2-pound tip from the 27 pounds, since that was supposed to be part of the refund. This produces 25 pounds - the billed price.--Jasper Deng (talk) 00:05, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Well spotted.  :) Thanks.

The maths involved confuses so many people. I added the "mega confusion" to show how confusing things can become in life. I never did well in maths lessons at school. xD TurboForce (talk) 00:51, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

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It was a random page I created, as a Wikipedia experiment, after seeing the word above a shop. I wanted to see if the page would last or not. Obviously it hasn't, but never mind. ;) TurboForce (talk) 19:11, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

I didn't expect that trivial page to last so long lol. TurboForce (talk) 20:13, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

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