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Please help me with... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes
Usagidot (talk) 13:35, 22 March 2020 (UTC) Hello, I found this page, it has a lot of errors and false pictures. I asked some of my friends before I post this. According to them, they tried to fix it correctly before, but someone rewrote. Is Wikipedia accept using false pictures and statements?
I know there are anti-Japan organizations such as 50 cent party (China) and VANK (South Korea). They try people to mislead using Wikipedia, so we Japanese people would like to fix it correctly. At least, we would like to delete or update false pictures and contexts like the Japanese who were killed by the Chinese.
Is this possible to lock this page after we rewrite? It is included what the Chinese victims who were killed by the Chinese... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Usagidot (talk • contribs) 14:01, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
- If you wish to enact changes on a Wikipedia page, but find yourself (or your friends) being reverted, you should start a discussion on the article's talk page - in this case Talk:Japanese war crimes. Click the "New section" link at the top of the page and detail your concerns and how you think the page should be changed/improved. Other interested editors will comment and a consensus will form. If you want more help, change the {{help me-helped}} back into a {{help me}}, stop by the Teahouse, or Wikipedia's live help channel, or the help desk to ask someone for assistance. Primefac (talk) 14:04, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for your reply. I understand. We'll delete some pictures first. Some of the pictures prove the chinese crimes. There was no relation with Japanese soldiers.
March 2020[edit]
Hello, I'm Flori4nK. I noticed that in this edit to Japanese war crimes, you removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Flori4nKT A L K 15:43, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
Hello Flori4nk. Please DO NOT back that page. I have the reason to delete it. Why did you back that page without any reasons?
Deleted some false pictures. 1）Soochow, China, 1938.
・A Japanese soldier counted Chinese victims who were killed by the CHINESE.
2)A mass grave of Nanking Massacre victims, 1937
・The Chinese were killed by the CHINESE.
3)Japanese bayonet practice with a dead Chinese near Tianjin
・This was actually a postcard to sell to foreigners in Shanghai in 1919.
FYI: http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/p15799coll12/id/3800/rec/6 4)A burial detail of American and Filipino prisoners of war following the Bataan Death March, 1942
・Totally fake.
FYI: https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/caption-corrected-on-famous-photo-from-world-war-ii/ 5)U.S. authorities granted Unit 731 officials immunity from prosecution in return for access to their research.
・There was no relation with Unit 731. That was quarantine. Original explanation is in Chinese, "这是翻拍的伪满洲国民生部保健司派员参加1940年11月吉林省农安县鼠疫“防疫”活动照片(1月7日摄)。新华社记者王昊飞摄"
Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to Japanese war crimes, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. Flori4nKT A L K 15:51, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
If you want for the page to be deleted you may start a deletion discussion per WP:AFD or WP:FFD, but please don't simply remove information without a proper explanation. -Flori4nKT A L K 15:54, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
I'd also like to note, that I don't, in any way, back any pages I perform reverts on if not otherwise stated. I simply try to help enforce Wikipedia's guidelines. -Flori4nKT A L K 15:56, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
- Flori4nKI am not sure why this page cannot remove simply, but I'll check it out.
February 2021[edit]
Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your image was inserted successfully on the page Comfort Women: A New Musical, but because it appeared to be irrelevant to the article or violated the image use policy, it has been reverted or removed. Please use your sandbox for any tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thank you. Binksternet (talk) 19:00, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Ianfu. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.
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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Binksternet (talk) 19:01, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Comfort Woman, you may be blocked from editing.
Your edits have been automatically marked as vandalism and have been automatically reverted. The following is the log entry regarding this vandalism: Comfort Woman was changed by Usagidot (u) (t) ANN scored at 0.963593 on 2021-02-27T00:22:40+00:00
Thank you. ClueBot NG (talk) 00:22, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
ClueBot NG Thank you for your message. I attacked and wrote all of the real. What the problem...? Please read my attachment.
- ClueBot is a bot, and can not understand your reply. If you want your edits to be accepted on the English Wikipedia, you need to follow the rules. You should start by reading the "Introduction" section of the welcome message at the top of this page. You can not force your changes into an article on Wikipedia, even if you think they are right. If you simply re-insert the version you want without discussion, you will be blocked from editing and the pages will be locked to prevent you from editing them. You need to start a discussion on the talk page, and convince the other editors of the page that the changes you want will make the article better, and to do this you need to have good, neutral sources that agree with your version. I wish you the best in your future editing! Knuthove (talk) 01:39, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Knuthove Why do you remove the pictures? That was real. Doesn't Wikipedia support the facts?
- Wikipedia supports reliable sources. I don't know what book those pictures were from, and I don't know what they said, because they did not say where they came from and were not written in English. This is the English Wikipedia, so you can not expect editors or readers to understand any other language. Therefore, the images were not supported by reliable sources and should be removed. Also, you seem to be pushing a point of view that is not shared by the majority of the reliable sources, and the articles you have edited or created seem to be an attempt to circumvent the pushback you are getting in the main article on comfort women. That is not a good way to edit Wikipedia. Remember that as editors, we are here to build an encyclopedia, in English, based on good sources and with a neutral point of view. Knuthove (talk) 01:50, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Ianfu; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
Points to note:
- Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
- Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Binksternet (talk) 04:43, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Your contributed article, Military Prostitutes[edit]
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Hello, I noticed that you recently created a new page, Military Prostitutes. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page – Comfort women. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Comfort women. If you have new information to add, you might want to discuss it at the article's talk page.
If you think the article you created should remain separate, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Additionally if you would like to have someone review articles you create before they go live so they are not nominated for deletion shortly after you post them, allow me to suggest the article creation process and using our search feature to find related information we already have in the encyclopedia. Try not to be discouraged. Wikipedia looks forward to your future contributions. Knuthove (talk) 01:06, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Knuthove Hello, thank you for the message. "Comfort women" page explanation is completely wrong. Recently, a former comfort woman Lee young-soo's past testimonies on TV programs found in South Korea. She said that she was not forced by the Japanese army. Even Korean people blame that she was fake now. Please catch new information up. I'll think of new pages title instead of it. Thank you.
- See my message in the previous section. You need to take this source to the article talk page and use it to convince the other editors of that page that your version is better. That is the way Wikipedia works. Also, you should sign your comments. You can do this by writing four tildes (like this: ~~~~) at the end of your comments. Knuthove (talk) 01:42, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Knuthove I don't try to change that page.
- But you should. The article you wrote on Military Prostitutes covered the same subject as the existing article comfort women. Wikipedia should not have two different articles on the same subject. If a subject is known by many different names, the other names should be redirects, but military prostitutes are a more general term than the WWII comfort women, so it should not simply direct people to that article. If you want to change the article on comfort women, you should do it on that article. You should not create a new, competing article. Knuthove (talk) 02:00, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Knuthove Okay, but you seem like you want to remove the facts. Why do you want to remove pictures also?
- I don't want to remove facts, but I want Wikipedia to reflect a neutral point of view. Not just what one source says, but what the most correct version is when we take all sides and all views into account. Also, you have not shown that your images are facts. Knuthove (talk) 02:13, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- but you re-update my fixing and remove even if it is picture. I've checking this topic in Korean/Japanese/English. What about you?
- What do you mean by "even if it is picture"? The pages Ianfu and Comfort woman are disambiguation pages. They should not have images on them. "Military prostitutes" was a duplicate of an existing page and should not have been created. I also don't think the pictures are a good fit for any article on the English Wikipedia without a good description in English of what they show and where they came from. Knuthove (talk) 02:23, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
So why have you been trying to fix my correction. I wrote that translation is wrong. > I also don't think the pictures are a good fit for any article on the English Wikipedia without a good description in English of what they show and where they came from. I don't think so... The explanation is written on it. And one of it was taken by a photographer during WW2. Should I attach my photo books too?
- You should read the "Introduction" pages at the top of this page. There you will learn what Wikipedia counts as reliable sources. The images as they are now are not possible to understand by people who only know English, and that is the only language we can expect people to know on the English Wikipedia. They also do not say where they are from, so it is impossible to know if they are from a reliable source or not. They also are on pages that should not contain images. Also, I see that you have marked the images as your own work, when they were clearly are from a book. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. If you are sure that the images are in the public domain (the books you took the images of in this case), or you have received permission to use them, you should write that in the licensing. Otherwise, the images will probably be deleted. Knuthove (talk) 02:44, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Knuthove If you want to deny the facts, you need to show me your evidence. Where is it? Wrong is wrong.
- No. You need to show that what you want to write are the facts. You would know this if you had read the introduction pages. For example, the page on verifiability:
Knuthove (talk) 02:52, 27 February 2021 (UTC)All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution.
Knuthove I already attached the facts. It's pictures. Koyo Kageyama was a photographer, and I bought his photo book. He wrote that they were comfort women.
- Which book? What page? What are the images of? Who is Koyo Kageyama? Is he an expert on this matter? Are you allowed to post images of his book here, or are you breaking copyright? Why should we trust his description? These questions are what you should answer on the relevant talk page to convince the editors there to accept your changes. Knuthove (talk) 03:00, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- 「写真昭和５０年史 あるカメラマンの半生記 page 62」
picture title is "Comfort women in China" So where is your evidence? I'm still waiting for it.
Because that photo book is on my desk right now....
- This conversation serves no purpose. If you will not learn and follow Wikipedia's rules, you will be blocked and your additions will be removed. Have a good day. Knuthove (talk) 03:08, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Knuthove Your saying is inconsistent... No evidence, translation is completely wrong... What is your purpose? You need own evidence if you want to say something to me.
March 2021[edit]
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by inserting commentary or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at Ianfu. Binksternet (talk) 15:30, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Binksternet Hi, I told you that the author's TRANSLATE is completely wrong. If you have any complaints to me, you must remove that page, because he doesn't understand Japanese language at all. He seems like he just want to insult Japan and its people without any compelling evidence. I am asking where the evidence is. But he has no evidence. Do wikipedia and you accept false page?
Binksternet Could you check Knuthove's evidence? You warned me. I need the result as soon as possible. I am telling him only facts.
Administrator's noticeboard[edit]
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Knuthove (talk) 17:40, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Indefinite block[edit]
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. El_C 17:56, 15 March 2021 (UTC)