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Editor of the Week

		Editor of the Week
		Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week for your determination and dedication to help the encyclopedia grow. Thank you for the great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project)

Editor Jim Carter submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

I'm pleased to nominate VQuakr to be Editor of the Week for his outstanding ability of helping new editors. He is extremely well versed in deletion policy and extraordinary in NPP related works. With over 26k edits, I find him to be one of the few unsung heroes of Wikipedia, who's contributions make internet not suck. I'm really in-debt of this particular editor, personally. He is one of those editor who made "Jim Carter" from "Rudra john cena". If they were not around, I would have never survived on Wikipedia. I think, this hero certainly deserve recognition for his many efforts to improve the 'pedia.

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Thanks again for your efforts! Buster Seven Talk 14:09, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

This a surprise, but I will second that. Ottawahitech (talk) 01:14, 18 January 2016 (UTC)please ping me

VisualEditor News #1—2016

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Among experienced editors, the visual editor's table editing is one of the most popular features.

If you select the top of a column or the end of a row, you can quickly insert and remove columns and rows.

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You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for Japanese, Korean, Arabic, Indic, and Han scripts, and improving the single edit tab interface.

Recent changes

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The formula editor has two options: you can choose "Quick edit" to see and change only the LaTeX code, or "Edit" to use the full tool. The full tool offers immediate preview and an extensive list of symbols.

Future changes

The single edit tab project will combine the "Edit" and "Edit source" tabs into a single "Edit" tab. This is similar to the system already used on the mobile website. (T102398) Initially, the "Edit" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time. Your last editing choice will be stored as an account preference for logged-in editors, and as a cookie for logged-out users. Logged-in editors will have these options in the Editing tab of Special:Preferences:

Remember my last editor,
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The visual editor uses the same search engine as Special:Search to find links and files. This search will get better at detecting typos and spelling mistakes soon. These improvements to search will appear in the visual editor as well.

The visual editor will be offered to all editors at most "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next few months. The developers would like to know how well the visual editor works in your language. They particularly want to know whether typing in your language feels natural in the visual editor. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. This will affect the following languages: Japanese, Korean, Urdu, Persian, Arabic, Tamil, Marathi, Malayalam, Hindi, Bengali, Assamese, Thai, Aramaic and others.

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Please try out the newest version of the single edit tab on test2.wikipedia.org. You may need to restore the default preferences (at the bottom of test2wiki:Special:Preferences) to see the initial prompt for options. Were you able to find a preference setting that will work for your own editing? Did you see the large preferences dialog box when you started editing an article there?
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Upcoming Art+Feminism events in Oregon

You are invited to participate in Oregon's upcoming Art+Feminism events, which will be held in Portland and Eugene on Saturday, March 5, 2016. Please see the following links for additional information, or to sign up:

Portland: Yale Union (800 SE 10th Avenue), 12:00–5:00pm
Eugene: Architecture and Allied Arts (A&AA) Library (200 Lawrence Hall, University of Oregon), 12:00–5:00pm

About Art+Feminism: Art+Feminism is pleased to announce its third annual Wikipedia edit-a-thon, an all-day event designed to generate coverage of women and the arts on Wikipedia and encourage female editorship. Last year, over 1,500 participants at more than 75 events around the world participated in the second annual campaign, resulting in the creation of nearly 400 new pages and significant improvements to 500 articles on Wikipedia. For more information, see Art+Feminism.

You received this message because you have attended a Wikipedia meetup in Oregon or contributed to WikiProject Oregon. To unsubscribe from this newsletter, remove your name from this list. -MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:18, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

DeepRecce speedy nomination

I appreciate your feedback. I felt that, particularly in light of the author's COI, the claims of notability were not credible given that the references only discuss exploits of the founders and not anything the company itself has done, but reasonable minds certainly can differ about such things. All the best - Julietdeltalima (talk) 00:49, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

The only reference for Suzanne Jackson was the subject's own blog. Julietdeltalima (talk) 00:51, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

@Julietdeltalima: WP:A7 doesn't mention COI; speedy deletion criteria are strictly interpreted and limited. An article doesn't need to be referenced at all to contain a credible claim of significance. VQuakr (talk) 00:53, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

I see your point now re: DeepRecce. I realize I was overthinking the "credible claim of significance" notion; my thought process was that the article certainly made credible claims of significance for the founders, but not the subject company, because the company-specific assertions' credibility was diminished by the COI. In a word, overthought; duly noted and I appreciate your comments. I have to say, though, I still don't see how "famous fashion insider... involve[d] in makeup products and fashion magazine[s]..." passes muster; it strikes me as combining an eminently non-credible quasi-"significance" assertion ("famous fashion insider") coupled with, to draw from one of the CSD essays, a credible but eminently insignificant assertion comparable to "she was at the top of her high school class for four years" ("involve[d] in makeup products and fashion magazine[s]"). In any event, thank you very much for your patience with what I assure you is good-natured receipt and discussion of criticism. Julietdeltalima (talk) 01:42, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for helping me with contesting the speedy deletion. I'll try to improve the article as much as I can in a neutral way. I've tried to keep it as concise as possible. Any other pointers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kengilmour (talk • contribs) 02:52, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Michael Sexton (disambiguation) and Trump Initiative

Thanks for recent edit enhancements relating to Trump Initiative. I am trying to add Michael Sexton but am running into trouble and can not find how to resolve.(disambiguation). Sexton played a significant role^[1] and would like to fill out the background article. Any help or direction would be appreciated. --Wikipietime (talk) 00:51, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

References

^ http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/controversy-surrounding-trump-university/story?id=37374821. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

@Wikipietime: no problem. Use parenthetical disambiguation. I suggest Michael Sexton (entrepreneur). VQuakr (talk) 05:26, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Many Thanks

Many thanks to you for removing speedy deletion tag from my article.. And also for trying to stop the terror being created by this Asshole --> User:Ktr101.............

--Adamstraw99 (talk) 08:24, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

@Adamstraw99: The article had no claim as to what he actually did (especially since claiming to be a politician can be a vague way of claiming notability when there is none). You improved it though, so I agree with VQuakr's removal of the tag. Also, if you continue to insult people on this site, you will be blocked, as that is far from civil behavior. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 15:42, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Adam. Yes, please do remember to be civil to other editors. VQuakr (talk) 16:36, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Oath Keepers

Hi,

just FYI, I have requested page semiprotection for Oath Keepers after reverting recent IP vandalism and noticing the note claiming to be from the group's "media director" with an implied goal of having a coordinated POV editing group (e.g. " I and other members of Oath Keepers Leadership") attempt to tilt wording on the article unduly. Thanks for your note back to him regarding the policies but as it was less than 48 hours between the article's protection expiring and the IP vandalism resuming... Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz (talk) 03:12, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Detention and search of Indian VIPs at US airports

Please address the NPOV issues with this article, or it may be nominated for deletion! The article can be editted to address the issues or a discussion can be held at Talk:Detention and search of Indian VIPs at US airports#Neutral Point of view.--Petebutt (talk) 07:48, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

I have copied this to the original authors talk page--Petebutt (talk) 08:30, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

NPP

Re: NPP - this, are you going to Wikimania? I am. I hope to be facilitating an extra-programme discussion on this critical cross-Wiki issue. If you are going, we should elaborate something together. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:19, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

@Kudpung and Jytdog: unfortunately, no I am not going. I am interested in with this issue, though. I think there are also some immediately actionable items that could be pursued on en.wiki as a stopgap - particularly applying a technical user right to the action of reviewing an article and adding a minimum article age requirement to CSD criteria such as A1, A3, and A7. At one point you were working on an RfC; is that still in the works? VQuakr (talk) 04:00, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

It's still in the works and were just waiting for Σ to come up with stats we need for the argument. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:18, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

I've decent with raw data if someone showed me how to do queries for that sort of thing... teach a guy to fish, right? VQuakr (talk) 00:34, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

i am sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelcaine346 (talk • contribs) 07:13, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Stale Draft cleanup

I'm actually processing from a list of 30,000 stale drafts mostly from vanished users. If I fully cleaned up every article I promoted I'd never get through the job I'm doing. Allowing other users interested in the topic to complete the cleanup is working pretty well. Legacypac (talk) 14:18, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Bernie Sanders' Dank Meme Stash

Did you see this? Dear god! Adam9007 (talk) 02:00, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Yup. I'll post to your talk page shortly. VQuakr (talk) 02:05, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Personal attack accusation

Hi there, I was wondering if you could point me at the diff for the personal attack you've accused @Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz: of making at Talk:Oath_Keepers. Thanks! SQL ^{Query me!} 01:24, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

@SQL: that'd be the spurious accusation of harassment here. I linked it in the notification as well. VQuakr (talk) 01:27, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Just wanted to make sure you were 100% clear, and that that diff wasn't a mistake. In my opinion - that isn't a personal attack. SQL ^{Query me!} 01:30, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

@SQL: thank you for your opinion. I hope you don't object to me following up, though. Would you say that is because that diff doesn't violate WP:AOHA, because it did violate WP:AOHA but not WP:NPA, or for some other reason? VQuakr (talk) 01:33, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

It really doesn't strike me as a personal attack - and seems a lot like wikilawyering to me. They don't want to talk to you? You can't discuss content changes without talking, so I imagine this will be short lived - and an empty threat at best. Additionally, I probably wouldn't choose templates to start a discussion with a regular. SQL ^{Query me!} 01:43, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

@SQL: probably correct that it is an empty threat, but the behavioral stuff spilling into article talk space (as opposed to WP space and User talk summaries) is pretty plainly problematic. I didn't start with a template; his previous harassment accusation and non-template replies from myself and another editor are here. VQuakr (talk) 01:56, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Here's an idea. Stop harassing people, stop randomly accusing anyone who doesn't agree with your edits (especially when you make ones that aren't supported by your source or the talk you're claiming it's supported by) of "edit warring" and randomly throwing around harassment built message board posts trying to get them blocked. Start behaving civilly. YOU are the one edit warring, by policy, and abusing policy trying to abuse the blocking system to win your narcissistic little content dispute.

I'm still waiting on the apology from you and I doubt I'll see it. Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz (talk) 13:26, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, VQuakr. You have new messages at Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol.
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Let's Make This Really Clear

Your continued harassment of me with lies and twisted statements and stalking of my edits needs to stop now. You are wasting everyone's time and trying my patience. Don't comment on my edits. Don't talk about me anymore period. Legacypac (talk) 21:13, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

WP:HA#NOT; WP:AOHA. As I noted on ANI I recognize that we are far enough away from the pinnacle of Graham's hierarchy that this is unlikely to be resolved by direct interaction between us, but it is not reasonable for you to expect other editors not to interact with you in WP spaces when you are so prolific. VQuakr (talk) 21:20, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Do you want one Edit tab, or two? It's your choice

How to switch between editing environments

Click the [[ ]] to switch to the wikitext editor.

Click the pencil icon to switch to the visual editor.

The editing interface will be changed soon. When that happens, editors who currently see two editing tabs – "Edit" and "Edit source" – will start seeing one edit tab instead. The single edit tab has been popular at other Wikipedias. When this is deployed here, you may be offered the opportunity to choose your preferred appearance and behavior the next time you click the Edit button. You will also be able to change your settings in the Editing section of Special:Preferences.

You can choose one or two edit tabs. If you chose one edit tab, then you can switch between the two editing environments by clicking the buttons in the toolbar (shown in the screenshots). See Help:VisualEditor/User guide#Switching between the visual and wikitext editors for more information and screenshots.

There is more information about this interface change at mw:VisualEditor/Single edit tab. If you have questions, suggestions, or problems to report, then please leave a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback.

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ANI notification

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding your behaviour in a talk page. The thread is Uncivility problems in Talk:Third-party evidence for Apollo Moon landings. Thank you. Elendaíl (talk) 00:34, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

On Energy Catalyzer revert

Sorry, no, the sources in my submission are not the same as in the discussion. The lawsuit needs an objective coverage. See my entry in the talk page. (I can remove the source of the lawsuit text, if that is seen as problematic) -- Egil (talk) 07:45, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Sure, will discuss there. It just needs consensus since several editors have contested similar additions. Kind regards! VQuakr (talk) 07:48, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Bad faith

Your comments here targeting me are pure bad faith: [1]. It is not me who initiated this dicussion and other contributors made most comments. Before your intervention, it was 3 vs 1 and 1 neutral with no argument but just attacks against me by the one who you defended.

If someone would have to drop the stick it is the friend that you defended.

I add that you argued that both version are the same and you prefer the more simple. The more simple is clearly the one suggested by Zero0000.

You should me shamed of your behaviour. Pluto2012 (talk) 20:53, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

@Pluto2012: perhaps I am missing something. That section is discussing this proposed edit by you, correct? To what "friend" are you referring? In what way did I "defend" anyone? In what way do you feel that the diff you linked above violates WP:AGF? VQuakr (talk) 00:41, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

You should dtop the stick.

You was caught supporting a proposal that you didn't even read and then you based your support on simplicity whereas the alternative proposal (Nishidani) is obviously more simple given shorter by 3 words.

Pluto2012 (talk) 01:14, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Still waiting for that explanation of how that constitutes a violation of WP:AGF. Mebbe grab a cup of tea and some perspective? VQuakr (talk) 02:57, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

SPP

I've semi-protected your talkpage for 2 days regarding recent issues here. Please let me know if you'd prefer it to be unprotected. SQL ^{Query me!} 03:18, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Bulldaggers

Why do you assert WP:MUSIC doesn't apply to fictional stuff? Toddst1 (talk) 13:07, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Because the subject of the article isn't a band; the subject is fictional characters in a comic. WP:FICTION was never accepted as a notability guideline, so GNG is the applicable one. VQuakr (talk) 18:27, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Appreciation

VQuakr, - I want to thank you, so much, for your quick approval of and kind adjective about my new New World Alliance article earlier today. I'd worked so hard on it, and I felt it was well done and interesting and even timely, given the politics of the day; but you never know what the Authorities will think. Go, Wikipedia! - Babel41 (talk) 05:06, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Copper Microgroove

Dear VQuakr: Please see a few clarifications and suggestions regarding your revises to this article. 1) The name of the technology that the article is about is called "Copper MicroGroove." 2) Copper MicroGroove not a brand name. It is a trademarked technology (developed by the International Copper Association that develops and improves copper technologies). The MicroGroove license is offered for free to manufacturers who find that it is an improvement over current technologies they use. The brands you are concerned about are the final products that are sold by the manufacturers, for example, air conditioners. MicroGroove is not a brand. It is a technology in high-efficiency air conditioners and other heat exchangers. 3) The new title you created is inaccurate. A possible descriptor title could be "Internally-grooved small diameter copper tube." But no one will find this as it is clumsy. The industry knows the technology as Copper MicroGroove - please see the references. It is a new technology, commercial only since 2005, and is now known. So I suggest the title of the article be reverted back to "Copper MicroGroove" for the benefit of the readership. 4) One of your comments speaks about deleting "weird sentences about two coil technologies." Please read the original sentence again. It speaks about alternative technologies to MicroGroove...i.e., Microchannel air-cooled condenser, and copper micro-channel. So including these sentences brings perspective about alternatives to the MicroGroove technology addressed in this article. Therefore, I request that this deletion be reverted as well. 5) Please feel free to delete any word(s) that seem promotional to you. That was not my intention. And let me know what else I can do to delete the upper tag box - that was what I tried to do by including peer-reviewed references published about the technology. Sincerely, Enviromet (talk) 18:48, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

A "trademarked technology" sounds a heckuva lot like a brand. Technologies are patented; brands are trademarked. VQuakr (talk) 03:55, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Waiting to talk to you on Schottky diode talk

You said you wanted to talk about the edits on Schottky diode Zedshort (talk) 13:42, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

I replied. VQuakr (talk) 18:54, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

You did not respond to my specific questions to you; you responded to the other editor. Try again. Zedshort (talk) 19:49, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

I replied to the content-related items. Personal attacks in article talk space are going to garner escalation, not replies. VQuakr (talk) 22:50, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Still waiting...

Counting day 3 now, still waiting for you to respond at Talk:List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016#RFC_to_sort_out_this_mess. Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz (talk) 12:54, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

@Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz: wow, two pings and a talk page message... all about the same thing. You know RfC's run for 30 days and a week is a not unreasonable amount of time to await a reply, right? That said, I should be able to reply tonight, probably. VQuakr (talk) 21:45, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

One other question - we are talking about the interval from [2] to [3], right? Because that looks like less than two days, not over three. VQuakr (talk) 22:15, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Any interest

.. in helping with this article or similar ones? Smallbones_(smalltalk) 17:37, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

@Smallbones: thanks for the message! I am not a big fan of editing lists, just my personal preference. I think I would be more suited to helping with stub creation or improvement on the individual meeting houses. I also do not expect to have much time to substantially increase my Wiki-workload this summer; lots on my real-world plate.

Have you thought about joining and/or soliciting help at WP:HSITES, and possibly starting a sub-project there for sharing of sources that might apply to the articles for several of these meeting houses? VQuakr (talk) 21:18, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

I do a lot at WP:NRHP and some places on the list already have generally small articles. I now have some access to more detailed sources, but they are ok as far as they go. I also know a few folks in PA and surrounding states (possible lists there also). I thought I might look around for other friends to see if they are interested in doing some work on the meeting house articles. If I have the time, I'd probably aim for an artilce on each one built befor the Civil War. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 22:00, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Editing News #2—2016

Editing News #2—2016 Read this in another language • Subscription list for this multilingual newsletter

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Place the cursor where you want to display the references list (usually at the bottom of the page). Open the "Insert" menu and click the "References list" icon (three books).

If you are using several groups of references, which is relatively rare, you will have the opportunity to specify the group. If you do that, then only the references that belong to the specified group will be displayed in this list of references.

Finally, click "Insert" in the dialog to insert the References list. This list will change as you add more footnotes to the page.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has fixed many bugs. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for Arabic and Indic scripts, and adapting the visual editor to the needs of the Wikivoyages and Wikisources.