User talk:Wayne Roberson, Austin, Texas

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Born 1942 in Roanoke, Virginia. Grad 1960, Wm Fleming HS, Roanoke VA. Attended Univ VA, Roanoke Branch (1960-1961); then Virginia Tech (1961-1962, 1963-1964, major Architecture.) U.S. Peace Corps Volunteer, Peru (1964-1966), lived and worked in Ancash (Huari, Provincia de Huari; Huallanca; Huaraz) and Lima. Univ Cincinnati (1966-1970): B.A. Anthropology. Univ TX Austin (1970-1972): M.A. Anthropology. Office of the Texas State Archeologist (1970-1973): photographer, lab assistant, field survey, excavation, and report writer. Texas Parks and Wildlife (1973-1976): Historic Sites & Restoration Branch, Head of Archeology Section. Carpenter's helper: part-time (1977-1979), Austin TX. Substitute teacher, Special Education, Austin State School (now named Austin State Supported Living Center), Austin TX (1978-1979). Univ North Dakota, Dept Anthropology and Archaeology Research Faculty (1979-1981). Archaeologist, private firm, Grand Forks, North Dakota (1981-1982). Office of the Texas State Archeologist, lab assistant and data entry (1983-1986). Office of the Texas Attorney General, environmental investigator, 1986-2002. Elementary school teacher (Special Ed including Early Childhood & Spanish bilingual): substitute 2002-2006 & 2007-2011, certified teacher 2006-2007. Retired in March 2011. Registered Archaeologist since 1976: Register of Professional Archaeologists (predecessor was Society of Professional Archeologists). Member since 1975: Texas Archeologist Society; editor of Society's journal "Bulletin of the Texas Archeological Society" Vol 55/1986 (pub 1986, Austin). Update 150314 WR. Update 200926 WR.

Areas of interest and knowledge

Archaeology, US Mid-west prehistoric sites: lab asst. (1967).

Archeology, Texas: Historic sites (1971-1973) survey, recording, subsurface testing, technical reports; Historic sites (1973-1976) administration, planning, survey, recording, excavation, preservation construction; Archeology (1983-1986) site-data compilation, entry, and reporting; Editor (1986) Bulletin of the Texas Archeological Society.

Archeology, North Dakota (1979-1982): Native American sites (ca. 1760-1870) survey, recording, sub-surface testing, excavation, reporting; prehistoric sites survey, sub-subsurface testing, recording; prehistoric site (ca. 1000 BCE - AD 1800) excavation and recording; historic sites (ca. 1870-1940) survey, recording, sub-surface testing, interviewing homesteading informants, reporting.

Anthropology; Maya Calendar research (1975-present).

Questions from the peanut gallery

Did you intend to remove the Septs section of Clan_Donnachaidh? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.7.32.72 (talk) 20:24, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

WR Reply Wayne Roberson, Austin, Texas (talk) 21:45, 9 April 2015 (UTC) I never tried to remove anything and didn't discover what was the beef of User:69.7.32.72, because User's question addressed some significant issues, but User hasn't contributed for about 3 years. My reply (q.v.) to his question of 20:24, 22 April 2012 was on 02:32, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

UPDATE Prior Wayne Roberson, Austin, Texas (talk) 17:37, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

The Alamo - 2004 movie

The well written historical-fiction book "The Gates of the Alamo" by Stephen Harrigan makes a good companion piece of the 2004 "Alamo" movie because of its good narration and close attention to known historic details; Harrigan spent five years researching and writing the book. Despite commercial failure, the film's director, John Lee Hancock, paid close attention to historic details, even considering and implementing suggestions by knowledgeable extras in matters of historic accuracy. For the Washington DC ballroom scenes and other non-battle scenes a large collection of carefully tailored replicas of 1830s costumes -- said to be valued at above a million US dollars -- were acquired from a British company especially for the movie.

I was an extra during the shooting of this film and thereafter followed reports of its production. I am convinced that the movie's commercial "failure" was in part due to its lack of love-interest and sex-related scenes and dialog. The film "Master and Commander", released a year earlier, experienced a similarly disappointing commercial showing for virtually the same reasons, although it also exhibited excellence in attention to historical accuracy. It was nominated for 3 Academy Awards and received one for its sound track. WR, 04June2012. Edited 2015.03.14 WR.

Church of the Brethren -- Notes on my edits/changes/revisions

19 Jan 13: "triune" replaced "trine" in the version "as edited by 66.210.32.134 (talk) at 18:36, 10 June 2010". "Triune" has related meaning, but "trine" is "baptism by immersion three times [3 dunks]". The 10June2010 error may be a typo related to positions of u and i on Querty keyboard. The immersions are done in the "name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit".

Second Battle of Sabine Pass

Began on 150216 redoing this article that, with related articles, is a jumble of cites and contradictory statements. Wayne Roberson, Austin, Texas (talk) 23:20, 16 February 2015 (UTC). Redo still in progress 150314.

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Quanah Parker

Wayne Roberson, Austin, Texas (talk) 21:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC) Editing section "Career" of Quanah Parker article, at some point I lost track of formatting and got struck with RED stuff in the "Notes" section. Eventually I discovered I was mixing two methods of entering references and making cites. What a mess! Had to learn how to UNDO prior edits. In all, a great lesson from wasting time. Will return someday to Quanah -- with a careful attitude.

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Lead for First Battle of Sabine Pass

I'm comparing my references to the rewritten lead for the First Battle of Sabine Pass. It appears to me that the revision might be getting the cart before the horse as to the motivation for seizing the pass. These appear to be the reasons for the second battle, rather than the first. The first appears to have been driven by Farragut/the Navy to shut down the coastal trade/improve the blockade. Deeper incursion was not the object of the first operation. Red Harvest (talk) 08:09, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Wayne says: I did note that the Union occupation of Galveston occurred just 4 weeks later. Without cites the Union plans and preparations are not obvious. So, if you want, redo it or undo. Meanwhile I'll get refs together for the Second Battle of Sabine Pass. Most refs for the "First Battle..." are in the same volume of Official Records.... and I can put them in just before tackling the "Second Battle...".

I tried my hand at the First Battle of Sabine Pass article because I was preparing to do something for the Civil War sites and battles at Sabine Pass. OMG there are some myths to dispel.

First, I wondered why someone named two battles when for at least 140 years there was just one Battle of Sabine Pass. For that matter, now there's a Battle of Galveston Harbor besides the 150-years-plus Battle of Galveston name. The proliferation of names doesn't worry me, just that I wanted to see why. It really seems that some National Park Service group about six years ago decided for convenience, I guess, to name various phases of those Civil War conflicts, and used as criteria dates, military actions, the profusion of names on old maps and in old records, significance as potential National Parks, etc. There are other complications in evaluating sites in that area. The matter of the modern US Coast Guard station that appears to be atop the second Confed fort at Sabine Pass: the legacy of USA military occupation, analogous to Spanish Colonial priests putting churches atop ancient ruins? The NPS survey report (now I can't find my ref on this!) renamed the 1861-1862 first Confed "fort" at Sabine Pass -- "Griffon" instead of Griffin.  ? so as not to confuse with "Ft. Griffin" USArmy post west of city of Fort Worth, named after a Union Army officer -- five years after the Sabine Pass fort was named Ft. Griffin after a Confed officer.

Battle of Galveston got divided, too. The first major US Navy shelling of Galveston got named "Battle of Galveston Harbor". It puts a bit of shine on what happened. The Union Navy's hold on the harbor was so tenuous that Union personnel rowed back to their ships each night rather than take the city. The Union Navy commander, rather than a risky artillery duel with some big Confed guns, allowed the Confed troops four days to 'remove the civilians', most of who had already left or were leaving. So, the Confed troops took everything of military value to safety and left a few pre- Mexican War smooth bores. When the Union Army troops arrived, they lived at the end of a wharf for several weeks until the Second Battle of Galveston, on which occasion the Union Navy warships steamed out of the harbor and abandoned the 200-plus US soldiers on the wharf to die by Confed artillery grapeshot or surrender. Wisely, they surrendered.

And of course the Second Battle of Sabine Pass was a shaking embarrassment to the Union. Texas was an embarrassment to the Union. (Did that have anything to do with the USA putting occupation troops in Texas for ten years after the War?)

I'm looking over my entry. It needs, obviously, proper cites, which I have compiled. Actually, I compiled them 39 years ago, using the Official Records... from almost complete sets at the Daughters of the Confederacy Museum (then in the Texas General Land Office building), from historical society journals (etc.) in UnivTx Austin and Austin Public libraries, and from Tx General Land Office archived maps and USGS topo quads at Texas Water Commission and Texas Water Development Board. (Enough of that)

Why can't I simply put those references into the Wikip articles? Well, time time time, as an editor/contributor you know. Also I haven't learned to enter images into Wikip articles, and, even with the Web nowadays, compiling old images and properly documenting them is laborious. Wayne Roberson, Austin, Texas (talk) 03:22, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Using the O.R. for some non-controversial things that don't require interpretation is fine in my experience. Secondary sources are preferable and required for interpretation of events. Historical society journals (at least state ones) are often used as reliable secondary sources. I have had the O.R. on CD for a decade or so and rely on it for my personal research. Red Harvest (talk) 07:26, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Red Harvest, for using your time to help me. I should get the O.R. on CD. Wayne Roberson, Austin, Texas (talk) 13:19, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

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   Today, earlier, I made errors entering in Teahouse. I had seen errors in two en.Wikipedia articles concerning Texas elections and politicians. I am willing to re-do the Teahouse submission, but cannot at this moment.Wayne Roberson, Austin, Texas (talk) 20:42, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

So what were the actual errors in those articles (if that's what you meant)? —[AlanM1 (talk)]—

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