User talk:Wik-authoring

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Managing a conflict of interest[edit]

Hello, Wik-authoring. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

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In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. It appears as though you have a connection with Oak Point Partners. Lordtobi (✉) 19:01, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Lordtobi, this is Wik-authoring and my client Oak Point Partners has legally purchased assets of the Companies I had edited. We are paid by our client, but the information added is from US Court, and the links go to bankruptcy news. So what do I need to do to get these historical information back on Accclaim, Just for Feet, Archway Cookies etc. As these are legal notices. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wik-authoring (talk • contribs)

@Wik-authoring: What you need to do before anything else is make the mandatory - and non-negotiable - paid editing disclosure on your userpage. You must disclose every article that you are/were paid to edit, and who is/was paying you for the work. You can use one of the variations of the {{paid}} template for this purpose.

Please note that failure to disclose all paid editing - past or future - can result in your account being blocked. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 19:03, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Your email[edit]

Regarding your recent email. The disclosures are fine, but you still need to make sure that each information you add is backed by a reliable source. Bankrutpcy Company News is a blog that draws data from a third-party source, has no credible editorial policy or named staff members, if any staff members at all. This does not qualify for a reliable source. Furthermore, you sentences use odd capitalization, such as "Court order" and "Sale of Remnant Assets" mid-sentence. The added information also lack any context; what are the remnant assets in this case, just an office chair or millions worth of intellectual property? If there is no substance to these additions, it only seems as though Oak Point Partners seeks to build a protfolio of "we acquired assets of bankrupt company X" statements. Lordtobi (✉) 17:32, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

So you will be deleting my content add on Brobeck based on your response above? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:246:901:f229:8903:fca5:7d3c:d177 (talk • contribs) 17:38, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

...or you could fix your additions and make yourself familiar with Wikipedia's guidelines (WP:PAID, WP:V, WP:RS, ...; also check out the tutorial) before making contributions. Lordtobi (✉) 17:56, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

For example,

On (date), the United States Bankruptcy Court for the Northern District of California entered a Court order approving the Sale of Remnant Assets to Oak Point Partners. [1]

should better be Private investment company Oak Pointe Partners acquired the assets remaining from (company)'s bankruptcy on (date).[1] (brevity, clarity, formatting, ...), and the source should be replaced by either a relialbe source or the document as retrieved from the court itself, rather than from some third-party site. Lordtobi (✉) 18:06, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the importance of Reliable Sources, but I just looked at the Brobeck page and the contribution above mine goes nowhere and is less reliable than our contribution.

Brobeck's bankruptcy trustee later filed suit against both the Morgan Lewis and Clifford Chance firms for undisclosed reasons, and reached sizable settlements from both firms in 2004.[10]

The reason Court order is upper and lower, is the link to the Reference Court order's with double brackets wiki page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wik-authoring (talk • contribs)

I don't think it is a valid argument that you can make an article worse just because it is already bad. Apart from Acclaim and reverting you, I haven't edited the articles you edited in any way. Each article has its own set of watchers that work hard on having solething corrected, but the article for this specific company was up for deletion multiple times, discouraging working on it. If it was for me, I'd swoop the entire article out of here due to its quality and the company's apparent lacking notability. Lordtobi (✉) 06:07, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Lordtobi (✉) – We appreciate your feedback. We would like to address the following concerns that you raised.

1) Reliable Source

Oak Point Partners has purchased the rights to the remnant assets of these companies. These purchases were made through the United States Bankruptcy Court. The sale is public information and approved by a US Bankruptcy Judge. Evidence of this is available online, but you must login to the US Court Registry in order to access all supporting documentation. We did not provide links to these online pages because of the required login. Instead, we link directly to the document retrieved from the court itself, which is hosted on bankruptcompanynews.com.

Furthermore, www.bankruptcompanynews.com does provide information and documentation on each of these transactions. As a result, people can access the Judge approved transactions without having to log into the US Court Registry. Bankruptcy Company News is a service of New Generation Research, Inc., a leading provider of corporate bankruptcy and distressed securities publications, products and services. Founded in 1986 by George Putnam, III, NGR has established itself as the preeminent source for in-depth information on corporate bankruptcies and distressed companies over the last 30 years. All information is factual and credible.

About - https://www.bankruptcydata.com/about Contributors - https://www.bankruptcydata.com/team

2) Lack of context/substance and brevity/clarity/formatting

Thank you for providing a more clearly defined sentence structure for us. Would the following be okay moving forward? “Private investment company, Oak Point Partners, acquired the remnant assets, any known and unknown assets that weren’t previously administered, from (company)'s bankruptcy on (date). [1]”.

We have also restructured our source citation in accordance to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_court. We will now be using the following structure: · Brobeck, Phleger and Harrison (N.D. Cal. 2015) ("ORDER GRANTING MOTION OF CHAPTER 7 TRUSTEE FOR AN ORDER AUTHORIZING SALE OF REMNANT ASSETS OF THE ESTATE."), Text. o Ex: Brobeck, Phleger and Harrison (N.D. Cal. 2015) (“ORDER GRANTING MOTION OF CHAPTER 7 TRUSTEE FOR AN ORDER AUTHORIZING SALE OF REMNANT ASSETS OF THE ESTATE.”).

Regards, Wik-authoring

Making edits to pages that you're paid to edit...[edit]

is strongly discouraged. See WP:PE, more specifically

you must disclose who is paying you, on whose behalf the edits are made, and any other relevant affiliation; you should make the disclosure on your user page, on affected talk pages, and whenever you discuss the topic; you are very strongly discouraged from editing affected articles directly; you may propose changes on talk pages by using the {{request edit}} template or by posting a note at the COI noticeboard, so that they can be peer reviewed; you should put new articles through the Articles for Creation (AfC) process instead of creating them directly; you should not act as a reviewer of affected article(s) at AfC, new pages patrol or elsewhere; you should respect volunteers by keeping discussions concise (see PAYTALK).

Thanks, Kb03 (talk) 18:39, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

i disclosed my edits on my User Page like this

Paid Article[edit source] Between October 2018 and April 2019, I worked on seven paid articles. Seven of articles are live and disclosed below, and I received payment for the publication of each article.

$ This user, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use, discloses that they have been paid by Oak Point Partners for their contributions to Brobeck, Phleger and Harrison. $ This user, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use, discloses that they have been paid by Oak Point Partners for their contributions to Steve & Barry's. $ This user, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use, discloses that they have been paid by Oak Point Partners for their contributions to MarchFirst. $ This user, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use, discloses that they have been paid by Oak Point Partners for their contributions to Factory 2-U. $ This user, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use, discloses that they have been paid by Oak Point Partners for their contributions to Archway Cookies. $ This user, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use, discloses that they have been paid by Oak Point Partners for their contributions to Just For Feet. $ This user, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use, discloses that they have been paid by Oak Point Partners for their contributions to Acclaim Entertainment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wik-authoring (talk • contribs) 13:50, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Ok. You did disclose on your userpage, which is good, but making edits directly to the articles is strongly discouraged due to a conflict of interest. It's suggested that you use the {{request edit}} template on the talk page of the article to suggest edits. Also, you are required to post a notice on the talk page of all the articles saying that you were paid to edit them as required here. The exact wording the policy uses is you should make the disclosure on your user page, on affected talk pages, and whenever you discuss the topic; Thanks, Kb03 (talk) 19:00, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

May 2019[edit]

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Thank you. Drm310 🍁 (talk) 21:07, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]