User talk:Wikaviani/Archive 2

Kabab

Hi Wikaviani, and thanks for your edits at the kebab article. Sorry that the source wasn't very clear in indicating the derivation of the Persian word as being a loanword from Arabic. Anyway the source and mention of the Persian word and etymology has now been removed from the article, which I don't really agree with, since there's a whole paragraph on the Turkish etymology still there (see the talk page). On the other hand, it would be good to have a more recent source. I'm not trying to prove one way or another what the origin of the Persian word is, I just think it could be mentioned in the article, whatever it is. It's difficult to find information in English about it though, and some of it is conflicting. I wonder if you have access to any high-quality reference books, maybe in Farsi, that might give a reliable indication of the origin of the word? Or do you think it's not necessary to mention? Thanks... --IamNotU (talk) 15:11, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi IamNotU, thank you for posting here. Unfortunately, i don't have any access to any high quality source about this word. i will try to take a look at sources in Persian and French, just to see if they give any information about the origin of "kebab" but if we can't find any reliable ccontent about that, i would say that when in doubt, leave it out. Take care.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:03, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

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Swarm ♠ 05:32, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Swarm, thank you very much, i really appreciate. I'll do my best to make it useful for the community. Take care.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:28, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

RE this

RE this - I agree Jews and Persians actually have a lot in common, and co-existed for millenia (with some episodes of strife - e.g. Mashad - but... you can find strife in any pair over a long period). I won't repeat the cliche of "I have many X friends" - but I have been acquainted and friendly with a number of non-Jewish Iranians (as well as Jews of Iranian origin) over the years - all be it for the most part exiles. The current political strife probably will end at some point - perhaps sooner than we all expect (hardly anyone expected the Iron curtain to fall when it did) - it is also anomalous in terms of basic geopolitical interests - present ideological underpinnings aside, Iran/Israel is actually a "natural" alliance/friendship situation (non-neighbors, both adjacent to a large bloc of Arab Sunni states) - which was the case to varying degrees until 79. Ideology (of any sort) usually doesn't account for much in geopolitics, but in this case it actually does.Icewhiz (talk) 13:18, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Fully agreed. Take care.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:22, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Regarding my edit you reverted

You made the comment recently:

Rv, the name of Ansari is not even in the "source".

This is true, but the name Prodea Systems is. If you read a few lines up in the same Career section, you will see Ms. Ansari is CEO and co-founder of Prodea Systems.

Please tell if the source was not readable somehow, and you could not find it. but the Defendant Prodea Systems Inc is clearly stated on both court documents that were referenced.

Click "view image" and allow pop-ups:

http://countyclerkrecords.co.collin.tx.us/webinquiry/DocDescMain.aspx?sk=20171020001403460

http://countyclerkrecords.co.collin.tx.us/webinquiry/DocDescMain.aspx?sk=20171213001646780

How is it not relevant to the "Career" section of Ms Ansari that these events occurred? Is it wiki practice to only publish positive events? If so it's not very useful.

Alisarosen999 (talk) 23:34, 29 August 2018 (UTC)AR

Hi Alisarosen999 from India and thank you for posting here. you said above "This is true, but the name Prodea Systems is. If you read a few lines up in the same Career section, you will see Ms. Ansari is CEO and co-founder of Prodea Systems.", let me see if i got this one straight, so your rationale is that since Ms Ansari is the CEO of Prodea systems, if this group has legal issues then Ms Ansari has legal issues too ? seriously ? This is what we call WP:OR here on Wikipedia. I would suggest you to find a source which explicitly supports this claim, otherwise, the inclusion of this information, especially about a living person, will not be endorsed. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:14, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the response. I am genuinely curious how this works, and so I appreciate the feedback. I read the "no original research" section you referenced, and I am still not clear on the issue here. It states: "Wikipedia articles must not contain original research. The phrase original research (OR) is used on Wikipedia to refer to material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published sources exist".

Are you saying that court records published from the State of Texas which are published on a government records site do not constitute an a reliable, published source? What sources qualify then? How is my referencing a public legal record "original"? And yes, if a company breaks the law and does not pay its employees, then I believe it is relevant to the career of the CEO and Chairman of the Board of that company. But I admit I am not well versed in wiki policy on such relations, so please help me understand. If you have a wiki document you can refer me to on this aspect, I would appreciate it.

Please help me understand; I do appreciate your input.

Alisarosen999 (talk) 03:46, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hey Alisarosen999, no problem, i'm always happy to help out when i can. My above remark and the WP:OR policy i cited was not intended to mean that your sources were unreliables. Indeed, a federal decision of a Texas court about Prodea systems is relevant about Prodea systems, but obviously not about its CEO. I mean if a high ranked employee of this group has made something wrong, the CEO is not necessarily involved. Concluding that the CEO is involved while the source does not explicitly say that is actually an "original research" and cannot be accepted in the article. Please read also WP:BLP policy, since Ms Ansari is a living person, i quote : "Editors must take particular care when adding information about living persons to any Wikipedia page. Such material requires a high degree of sensitivity, and must adhere strictly to all applicable laws in the United States, to this policy, and to Wikipedia's three core content policies:

Neutral point of view

Verifiability

No original research

We must get the article right. Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources. All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be supported by an inline citation to a reliable, published source. Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion. Users who persistently or egregiously violate this policy may be blocked from editing.". Please read also this paragraph of the WP:OR policy, i quote : "Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources. Similarly, do not combine different parts of one source to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by the source.". Please let me know if you need any further help. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:18, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Ali

Are you sure it is meant to say that Ali distributed both wealth and "booty", it sounds like long forgotten vandalism in the article! Surely that cant be right? Vif12vf/Tiberius (talk) 22:44, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Vif12vf, just to make sure i understand well your remark, you mean the Muslim conquerors did not share any "booty" ? here is an article quoting Hugh Kennedy, a specialist of this topic :[1]. I quote : "Much attention was paid to such details as the genealogy of the Arab generals and the precise division of booty" and later again : "Martyrs were assured a special place in paradise, while soldiers were allowed to keep four-fifths of captured booty". Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:47, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Well we are not talking about conquests but Ali's political, economic and social reforms. Vif12vf/Tiberius (talk) 10:45, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hmmmm... yeah, but at that time, there was not a big difference between the two, i mean the economic and political reforms were maid mainly with the "booties" of conquests ...---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:49, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Reason for edit

Regarding this edit summary - Afsharid dynasty has |continent=Eurasia in the infobox, which used to automatically populate "Category:Former monarchies of Europe" and "Category:Former monarchies of Asia" before two infoboxes were merged. I was just adding the page to what I thought was the appropriate category, but it looks like a GIGO situation. Incidentally this is the second time I've been reverted (over about 6 edits), so I'm starting to think that the people originally adding the values to |continent= might not have been paying too much attention to what they were doing. No need to reply (but ping me if you do), just thought I'd explain what seemed like an odd edit. Primefac (talk) 14:39, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

@Primefac: Hi, no worries about this, i understand now why you did so. I agree with you, the people who added the continent in the infobox did not pay much attention to what they were doing. The Afsharid dynasty had only few territories in Europe (in the Caucasus), according to me this is not enough for adding a category for it. Anyway, thank you very much for posting here in order to explain your edit. Take care.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:28, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Plz,put on the Safavid page spanning of area extent,this page show true extent:(5 great islamic empires) Sasan Hero (talk) 21:36, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

@Sasan Hero: Hi, i don't understand what you mean exactly. Please clarify.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:12, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

I mean this page has shown true Safavid dynasty greatest extent,this following page:(5 great islamic empires) Sasan Hero (talk) 23:29, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

@Sasan Hero: Sorry, this website does not appear to be a reliable source, rather a blog like site with some contributors with no expertise in the field of history. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:23, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Might be of use

[2] - LouisAragon (talk) 22:54, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much mate, indeed, this might be very useful.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:01, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

List of Largest empires

I’m trying to keep an open mind, and putting in time to dig into more sources. I truly appreciate the work you and other editors are putting into this as well. But the actions of one particular editor are very tiresome, and makes it very hard to have an honest discussion about sources. Work permit (talk) 21:13, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

@Work permit: Agreed, i also try to keep an open mind, this is why i came back on the article's talk page when i found a source supporting Ppteles' claim, but this user is so much blinded by his edit war that he did not even notice my input. Unfortunately, it seems that there is no other choice but to report him to the edit warring noticeboard. I can make the report right now. Take care.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:10, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Now we can discuss Portugal in a civil manner. I hope to have more sources, or at least more information, within a week. Work permit (talk) 04:54, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

You're welcome, i'm glad i can help. I also hope to find more sources in a few days, in order to improve the article. Take care.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:11, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

		The Civility Barnstar
		Thank you for your tireless efforts in restoring civility to List of largest empires. Work permit (talk) 05:02, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

• Thanks for the barnstar Work permit ! Much appreciated !---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:05, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Bachilava2002

Hi, as you know I’m a knew member of eanglish version of the Free Encyclopedia. So, I’ve some stuck with resources, can you show me exactly how will it better to form it in my situation, I mean David Lang’s book “The Georgians” (I have it in Russian way, but it doesn’t work here). By the way, I’ve worked in Russian version of Wikipedia for 8 months, nobody listened me and all my changes were reverted but after a very long battle with its’ administration, I realized, that it’s senseless, just a platform for falsification, that’s why I’ve decided to join this team, I hope you will really understand my position help me in different occasions.Bachilava2002 (talk) 22:05, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Bachilava2002 and thank you for posting here. Please note that when you post a message on a talk page, it must be at the bottom of the page. I will gladly help you if you need so, just ask me what you want about how Wikipedia works and if i know the answer, i'll help you. About your edit at Georgians, i reverted you because you added some significant and controversial content with no proper source. Please take a look at this and if you need further help, just ask. Please note that i'm often busy in real life, therefore, i may no answer swiftly, however i always try to answer as quickly as i can. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:31, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/Mirza1453

You've reverted some of this editor's edits. I think they're going to need more watching, given this sneaky removal of any mention of the Armenian Genocide. Pinkbeast (talk) 06:32, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Pinkbeast, no problem, i'll try to keep an eye on them. Thank you for letting me know. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:03, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

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Re all caps

I understand your reasoning for your use of all capital letters, but all-caps is usually considered yelling. I know I would if I came across it, just observing it without knowing the circumstances of a situation. I'd gently suggest you refrain from an all-caps sentence(maybe just a word or two, if absolutely necessary). Just FYI. 331dot (talk) 17:39, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

@331dot: Ah, ok, i was not aware of this. I thought all caps were used to underline some key points. Thank you for letting me know about this, however, i think that context matters and if you take a look at the history of the page, you'll see that this user has been asked to wait for consensus numerous times. cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:00, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

You are correct about the user; I simply wanted to inform you on this point. Please consider it a gentle suggestion only and not a reprimand or warning. Best wishes to you. 331dot (talk) 18:05, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much 331dot, i will follow your advice and avoid all caps in the future. Have a great day. Best regards.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:09, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

You might be interested

You might be interested in this ANI case as you (apart from Doug Weller) were also involved with said user. - LouisAragon (talk) 23:46, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

@LouisAragon: Thank you very much for letting me know about that. Take care.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:06, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Dubious changes

• Al-Biruni
• [3], [4]

What do you think about them? I reverted the first diff partially [5] because they changed the whole meaning of those sentences. --Wario-Man (talk) 12:51, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Wario-Man, thank you for letting me know about that. I find these changes quite sneaky, since they have significantly changed the wording of the article with no explanations or sources. I reverted the second part as well. Take care.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:30, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Same here, no clear edit summaries and discussion by him. --Wario-Man (talk) 03:12, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

@Wario-Man: Thank you for reverting my erroneous edit at Nasir al-Din al-Tusi, was a little tired last night when i reverted the IP.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:27, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

It's OK. Cheers! --Wario-Man (talk) 16:58, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Flag icons in Template:Infobox military conflict

Hi Wikaviani. You reverted my edit which removed flags in front of commander/leader names in Battle of Lützen (1632). I gave the reason "... only one faction, not needed.", to which you replied "not a legit reason to remove all the others".

My whole reasoning is that I find too many flag icons in an infobox confusing rather than elucidating. I agree that they make sense to connect leaders to their factions when there is more than one faction. Are there rules for this or is it a matter of taste in the end? 2.247.243.115 (talk) 19:16, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi IP user from Germany. If you need informations about infoboxes, please take look at this. If you need further help, just ask. Happy editing. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:11, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Djalal Akhbari moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Djalal Akhbari, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. That means articles in newspapers, journals etc. that are NOT directly connected to him (as the Center for Zoroastrian Studies appears to be).

I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Elmidae (talk · contribs) 16:05, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

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Undoing my deletions

I am restoring my changes. If you read my comment you would have seen it was the work of my brother that started the stupid conversation s so I am deleting them. --Robandrew (talk) 22:00, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

First, when you post a message on users' talk pages, please post it at the end of the page, this is why i moved your comment here. Second, you are allowed to remove other users' comments on your own talk page, not on some articles' talk pages. Best regards.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:16, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi,

Thanks for your help and the kind words you directed to me, as well as your offer to help me in my first steps on Wikipedia. I would also like to apologise if I started off in the wrong foot. I am ready to make amends. For now, I will take a small break of a few days. See you very soon regards.--Ppteles (talk) 16:06, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

You're welcome, i'm always happy to lend a hand. Take care. Until we meet again. Bests.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:39, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Need help proposing

Can you please propose the merge or atleast help me with that? I want to merge assyria to assyrian homeland but dont know how to do that. I am new in wikipedia.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.214.48.173 (talk) 11:24, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi, i suppose you're Nemrud91. Please sign your messages with the four tildes ("~"). As to your question, you should proceed with a "suggested merge", meaning that you place the template {{merge}} on top of the article you intend to merge into another, and the template {{Merge from}} on top of the target article. This should allow you to have some feedback before the final merge process. If you need any further help, please ask, i'll be happy to help you. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:48, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

I did as l understood but dont know if l did it correctly, can you please edit my posts and do it correctly if l did wrong? I would be happy if you helped me with that:)

Thank you so much for helping me.

PS: The reason why l in the beginning didnt use references is because l didnt think it was necessary, l didnt change a lot. But l have now used references from britannica which should be good source.

// Nemrud91

Your merge templates seem to be well placed. Regards.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:27, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Empires

Hey man, sorry for the revert. I looked at the article again, and say that it says 'Empires at their greatest extent' right underneath the headline, which is why it doesn't matter if it says 'largest'. I also failed to see in the beginning that it list the empires by size as well, which supports the 'largest' in the headline. I feel dumb now, probably should have looked and read more carefully, again I'm sorry. SteamingStars (talk) 20:35, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Hey SteamingStars, no worries, not a problem at all ;-) everybody can make mistakes (me the first ...). Thank you for clarifying. Take care and happy editing.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:41, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Plz,put on the correct spanning extent of tahirid dynasty ,correct is 2400,000km2 in the year of 850...and plz,put on the list saffarid dynasty,Safavid dynasty,Afsharid dynasty,thanks. Sasan Hero (talk) 01:15, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

@Sasan Hero:, I would suggest instead of canvassing another editor to change referenced information to something that is not referenced, you should supply a reliable source(s) on the Talk:List of largest empires. --Kansas Bear (talk) 04:24, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

@Sasan Hero: I fully agree with Kansas Bear, if you want to include these figures, you need reliable sources for that. Also, please note that nobody owns Wikipedia. Also, i would suggest you to read the rules i linked in this message, in order to better understand how this encyclopedia works. If you need any further help with Wiki rules, please ask. Best regards.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:37, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Your e-mail

I would do it but there have been a fair number of subsequent edits, all of which would have to be deleted as well. Besides, it's most likely that Oshwah is aware of it and could do it himself if he wished to.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:48, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Wikaviani, Bbb23 - Hi, I saw that I was pinged here. Aware of what? What is the question or what is looking to be done? I might be aware of what you're talking about, but my memory might need jogging first... :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:57, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

this.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:59, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

@Oshwah: Sorry, i was away from my computers for a few minutes. I asked Bbb23 for a revdel about this IP edit.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:08, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Oh... got'cha. Yeah I don't care about edits to my talk page where users threaten or harass me. Those are rev del'd by other admins when they see it, but I don't run after them myself. However, if someone edits there to harass someone else or adds links that may put someone else's privacy, etc in jeopardy, that I obviously do care about that. Don't worry about harassment toward me; it doesn't affect me at all. In fact, I prefer people to do it toward me than someone else. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:14, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

You're a true gentleman, Oshwah, hope you're aware of that ! Wish you a great rest of your day, and please don't forget to take care of yourself too since it appears that you don't forget to take care of others ;)---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:20, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

I appreciate that. And not to worry; I won't. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:23, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Azerbaijan map

Hi Wikaviani, I wanted to let you know I reverted two edits by an IP sock of blocked/banned long-term-abusive editor Shingling334 in the Azerbaijan article, who replaced the map and its caption, removing mention of Artsakh. As that effectively reverted some of your editing, I wanted to explain. I also reverted one previous unexplained/unsourced edit that seemed to have some erroneous naming in the caption. So the map and caption are now back at the previous consensus version, which has been the status quo for the past few months. I hope you won't mind, since it looks like you've also reverted to that same status quo version a number of times, eg. here and here, etc. I don't have an opinion about the map, I'm just interested in preventing Shingling334 from having any of his edits accepted, in the hopes he'll someday give up. In any case, if you really do want to change it to the map and caption without Artsakh, I'd like to ask you bring it up on the talk page first, before reinstating Shingling334's edits. Thanks! --IamNotU (talk) 01:41, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello IamNotU, i did not want to reinstate edits from a blocked sock, i tried to revert some unsourced and unexplained edits, nothing else. I should have taken a look at the editing history of the page first, my appologies. Best regards.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:35, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Ok, I figured it was something like that, no worries! --IamNotU (talk) 19:39, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know bout that. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:45, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of René Lizárraga

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Hello Barkeep49, sorry, i forgot to cite Taekwondo data in the article, but another editor did it. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:43, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Mention nineveh plains

Due to the fact that you are undoing everything l do!, can you please mention the nineveh plains somewhere on the assyrian people article? I cant believe you are not mention it anywere, it is important and that is where creating of autonomy has been concentrated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nemrud91 (talk • contribs) 19:06, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello Nemrud91, i don't revert everything you do, i even helped you few days ago (take a look above), i revert every unsourced edit i find because it's just the way Wikipedia works. Please try to find a reliable source for Nineveh plains and i'll be glad to help you again if you need so. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:13, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi, yeah, l am sorry, l really want to discuss with you in the talk page of the assyrian people about changing the name of the language from neo aramaic to assyrian aramaic, check it out. I have also applied good reasons for that. Nemrud91 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.214.48.173 (talk) 20:25, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

@Nemrud91: No worries, i don't feel offended or something ;-) Have you checked this article ? would this name be convenient for you ?---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:23, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

yeah sure, but can we discuss this in the assyrian people talk page?Nemrud91

If you agree with me that we should change the name of the language then you do it. You are more respected than me and you probably know more about assyrians than me. Nemrud91

Hi Nemrud91, and thank you for your message and kind words. But it's not a matter of being "respected" or something (i don't consider to have a higher position than you or anybody else here) it's a matter of finding consensus, since it's the way this encyclopedia works. If you want, i can help you to launch a RfC asking for comments about changing the name of the language, however, you must keep in mind that if the result of the RfC is not the one you expected, then you'll have to accept it. Please let me know if i can help you further. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:13, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Yes, i understand that, yeah sure, do it:) Nemrud91 —Preceding undated comment added 21:19, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

@Nemrud91: Changed the language since the East-Aramaic was not supported by the source cited. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:36, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Maybe you should redirect it to syriac language? Syriac are turoyo, assyrian neo aramaic and chaldean, also, assyrians speak not only assyrian neo aramaic but also, turoyo and chaldean. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nemrud91 (talk • contribs) 20:17, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Should you change where it says "neo aramaic" also? you can find it if you look down near population numbers in the beginning of the article or is it just that? Nemrud91 (talk —Preceding undated comment added 06:14, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

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Hi TonyBallioni, thanks, much appreciated ! i'll do my best to make it useful for the project. Take care.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:03, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the email. zchrykng (talk) 21:38, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank YOU Zchrykng, for all your efforts. All the best.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:44, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Claim of Iranian citizenship for Pierre Omidyar

The source that you posed for verification of Iranian citizenship for Pierre Omidyar is silent on citizenship, & only serves to establish ethnicity. I thus reverted your unsubstantiated edit. Perhaps you can find something that actually makes a statement about his citizenship. Peaceray (talk) 19:30, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

@Peaceray: Thanks for letting me know about that. If a reliable source is available for his Iranian citizenship, i'll add it, otherwise, only his US citizenship should remain. When in doubt, leave it out. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:04, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Hey

From now on if I want rollback or whatever vs. vandalism, I will ask for it myself. I appreciate your faith in me, but when you nominated me it appears like I have asked you to do so. As such, I really do not care if I have Rollback or not.

Oh and "while I have your ear", you might take a look at Siege of Singara (344), which is in need of some modern historiography, modern reliable sources, neutral POV, neutral tone, etc, much like Perso-Roman wars of 337–361 before that rewrite. Any help would be most appreciated. --Kansas Bear (talk) 05:14, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Kansas Bear, my sincere appologies, i did not want to trouble you with that rollback permission stuff, but since i've noticed that you're doing a great job on this encyclopedia, i wanted to make you have a new tool to make things easier for you. It appears that this was not a good idea at all, sorry for that, Of course i'll take a look at Siege of Singara (344) to see if i can help, thanks for letting me know about it. All the best.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:29, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

No harm, no foul, Wikaviani. It's all good. --Kansas Bear (talk) 07:52, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Prithviraj chauhan

Brother he is from chauhan rajput dynasty.... Nd 4 days ago i hv seen tht there is clearly mentioned rajput word... So why u removed it?? Plz add tht Pratap.rathod67 (talk) 12:30, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Pratap.rathod67, i reverted because there was no source for that. however, i found a source supporting the fact that he was rajput here. Therefore, i'll add back rajput and the source. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:36, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Undeletion help

Hi wikiaviani, I made a request to undelete the neo assyrian empire map maybe a month ago but it still hasnt got back to the assyrian people article and neo assyrian empire article, l got their permission to use it and l have sent it to the permission link but it still hasnt been reverted, can you help me with that please? //Nemrud91 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nemrud91 (talk • contribs) 03:03, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Nemrud91, sorry for the delay responding. Could you please give me more details on how i can help you ? What map are you talking about ? Please let me know.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:57, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

This map: https://www.google.se/search?q=neo+assyrian+empire&client=ms-android-samsung-gs-rev1&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjC78vCn9_eAhUDtIsKHTO8BVwQ_AUoAXoECA0QAQ&biw=412&bih=718#imgrc — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nemrud91 (talk • contribs) 00:56, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

There are several maps when i follow your link, am i mistaken ?---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:57, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Munshi

Hello. Why you did undo my edit on the Munshi page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shahanshah5 (talk • contribs) 12:04, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Shahanshah5, i made a single edit to Munshi, that one and i was reverting a disruptive editor (Aydinyol) so, unless you're a sock of Aydinyol, i did not revert you at Munshi. Please let me know if i missed something.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:03, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

I was talking about this Munshi, not that one, now I see that I amconfused you with Wario-Man. But what means being a sock of anyone?

@Shahanshah5: I'm not Wario-Man, however, when i look at his revert of your edit, i fully agree with him and he explained you in his edit summary that the source you added to the article is not a reliable source. You have to keep in mind that Azerbaijani historians are not really considered as being reliables, it seems that many of them are publishing some false theories which are not endorsed by any reliable western source. I would suggest you to take a look at this source who clearly states : "The book is another poor example of Azerbaijani historians trying to substantiate their claim that Armenians are newcomers to the Caucasus. All these “historical facts”, began to appear only after 1988, when the Armenians of Karabagh sought independence from Azerbaijan, and increased after the fall of the USSR." No offense, but claiming that "Armenians are newcomers to the Caucasus" or "Azerbaijanis existed 1000 years ago" are nothing but propaganda and the "historians" who write that kind of lies are not to be cited in any serious encyclopedia. This is why your edit at Bahmanyār was reverted by me. To answer to your question about "being a sock of someone else", a sock is a user who uses in an abusive way multiple accounts. Regards.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:31, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

I see. So that's means that I should to use only Western sources? If it is so then I can focus on them — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shahanshah5 (talk • contribs) 15:07, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Shahanshah5, you can use any reliable non partisan source. This can be Western sources but also any other source which is considered to be reliable for Wikipedia. By the way, i wanted to thank you for your constructive behaviour, feel free to come back here any time if you need help, i'll be happy to help you. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:26, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

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IP-hopping

Do you think they switched to anonymous editing?[6][7][8] It's odd because since the day I removed non-RS materials from the article and we rejected them on talk page, this IP-range has appeared and started edit warring. --Wario-Man (talk) 06:06, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

@Wario-Man: Hmmm yeah, i think so, this is why i warned them to find an admin to step in the next time they change the article with no reliable source. I'll take this to ANI if they come at it again. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:42, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Unfortunately WP articles are prone to such edits and nonsense could remain for a long time if nobody watches frequently trageted articles. This is another strange case I found: Mashhad#Demographics Take a look at it. --Wario-Man (talk) 09:33, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

I try to watch as many articles as i can, but indeed, it's not easy to see everything. You're right about Mashhad#Demographics, it's a mess, with only few sources and numerous unsourced claims.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:07, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

I don't know why this nonsense remained there for a long time?! Awful. --Wario-Man (talk) 05:56, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Yes, this is quite unbelievable ... Thanks very much for fixing it.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:56, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Most of these issues caused by users and IPs who read other versions of a specific article in non-English Wikipedias. Unfortunately, some WPs are more like blogs and forums rather than an encyclopedia. It becomes worse when they mix their blog/forum-like stuff with ethnocentrist pov. I have encountered many cases that some users and IP-users tried to copy&paste the content of their regional WP into English articles. It seems the mentioned article suffers from similar issue. Low quality and unreliable non-English revision and obvious nationalistic pov-pushing. Thanks for your attention. Cheers! --Wario-Man (talk) 09:15, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Fully agreed. That kind of nonsense, claiming that there was 320000 Persian soldiers during the First Perso-Turkic War (same goes here) confirms your opinion. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:16, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

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Minor thingy

I noticed Khestwol changed "Dari" into "Persian" on 15 September 2018 (calling his edit "minor"[9]). "Dari" was the way it was spelled in the article for a long period of time. On 4 November 2018, an IP restored "Dari", but you reverted him.[10] I think we should just keep it at "Dari" (the WP:COMMONNAME, WP:RS, and WP:VER) or perhaps "Dari-Persian" to accomodate some of those disruptive IPs/users that hop in every now and then. Thoughts? - LouisAragon (talk) 12:32, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

@LouisAragon: Agreed ("Dari" alone sounds fine), after reading your post here, i was about to self revert, but you were faster. Honestly, i reverted the IP because he did not provide any explanation for his edit and that kind of articles are often vandalised by some trolls (here is the last one i catched).---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:00, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Yeah those articles always act like a magnet. As for this case...just wow. - LouisAragon (talk) 22:49, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Your Reverted in Turkey

I was waiting for your respond but you did not come back to my Talk page , as i seen you have leak of knowledge over this kind of issue and you always think negatively , "iam not doing anything sneaky in Wikipedia!", this is the way how you explain when you Reverted edits? the Wikipedia administrators should see my changes as i did to Turkey and also look your Reverted. thank you Khoshhat (talk) 21:35, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

@Khoshhat: Hi, you forgot to ping me on your talk, this is why i did not answer. You're right, i checked your version and the one i restored and effectively, the link was broken and your edit solved it. My appologies. Happy editing.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:45, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Map

Hi Wikaviani, do you know how to make maps? DA1 (talk) 11:33, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Hey DA1, i'm not an expert, i've never made a map for Wikipedia, maybe this could be useful ?---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:19, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Removals

Your thoughts on [11], [12], [13], [14]? Better to look at his recent edits. --Wario-Man (talk) 14:19, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Disruptive edits. User changed a stable version of the above articles with no legit reason. I'm going to revert back and issue a warning on his talk. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:08, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Wait! Don't act fast. You should check all cited sources before reverting his edits. Why? Because for example, on Istakhri: EL says: "From his nesbas (attributive names) he appears to have been a native of Eṣṭaḵr in Fārs, but it is not known whether he was Persian...". If cited sources in body of article, support Persian, then they should be used in the lead. His removals are not disruptive if there is no source for ethnicity/background of those persons. --Wario-Man (talk) 17:20, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

I'm currently checking sources. I've reverted him but not warned him yet. I restored the long standing version and will add sources in the lead. Thanks for your insight.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:27, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello, care to explain why you reverted the edits? They were in no way disruptive. I couldn't find sources to support the unreferenced claims, if you know of any sources to support the them lead me to them please. MWahaiibii (talk) 17:32, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Hey MWahaiibii, i'm currently adding sources. Please be patient. If a claim is not sourced, i'll self revert. Regards.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:35, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Of course, i will keep checking for the sources, since the unreferenced claims were misleading the readers. MWahaiibii (talk) 17:40, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello Wikaviani, i also found an Arab ethnicity claim for Istakhri while checking sources, Here. What do you think? MWahaiibii (talk) 18:07, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

You need to provice reliable sources. Please note that the authors (Neil Schlager and Josh Lauer) of the source you posted above have no specialisation in Islamic history and thus, this source seems unreliable.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:32, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Warnings etc

Consider myself warned? Please. You might like to discuss the Arabian issue on the Qanat talk page, but don't go reverting and threatening people like that, it's not playing nicely at all. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:09, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi Alexandermcnabb, my remark seems to have offended you and if so, sorry for that, since it was not my goal at all. You edited the article with some WP:FRINGE theory but you forgot to follow the rules, since for such a claim, you need to provide multiple high quality sources. We'll continue this discussion on the article's talk page. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:09, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

List of countries where Arabic is an official language

Hello Wikaviani,

You deleted in the article: "List of countries where Arabic is an official language" two passages. Do you think there are any mistakes? Please could you explain me why did you delete these two passages.

I would be happy if you reply.

Best regards,

Tom --Tom112233 (talk) 11:50, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi Tom112233, thanks for posting on my talk. I reverted your edit because as far as i can see, you did not provide any source for your changes. Please keep in mind that your edits must be verifiable by other editors. Best regards.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:11, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

User talk:108.29.66.47

It's possible that he's right. The text he removed was a glittering generality. I'm checking the references. In any case, I think it was in good faith. UninvitedCompany 23:38, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

I looked at the references for the glittering generalities he removed and removed some but not all. As I noted in my edit summary, the quality of the references was poor for that portion. I believe the IP is editing in good faith, and would encourage you to remove the warnings from their talk page. Best regards, UninvitedCompany 23:48, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello Company, thanks for posting here. You're right about the sources, they are weak. Gonna remove my warnings on the IP's talk. Also, i'll present my appologies to him (and you) for the trouble. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:51, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

No worries on my end. I hate to imagine how often I've done the same thing without realizing it. UninvitedCompany 23:59, 11 December 2018 (UTC)