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Itchenor/West itchenor[edit]
I think I know what you were trying to do on the West Itchenor talk page, but blanking the discussion is not the way to go about it. Don't worry, an Admin will come along in a few days, close the discussion, and remove the Merge tags. Skinsmoke (talk) 14:05, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Good faith?[edit]
Please read Wikipedia:Sock puppetry.--Charles (talk) 19:13, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Copyright violations again[edit]
As before, I'd like to remind you that copyright infringement isn't acceptable. Uploading images you found on the Internet and claiming to be the artist just isn't right, so please don't do it. I have tagged:
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- File:Sunbeam01 s.jpg for speedy deletion, because it is stolen from this website
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In the near future, I will be nominating all of your remaining image contributions for deletion, because I do not trust that any of them aren't copyright violations. — mholland (talk) 02:22, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
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Cathedral info box[edit]
Please don't keep sticking the list of canons in the info box. There is a section further down devoted to the cathedral staff. this stuff doesn't need repeating twice. It s simply not of genral interest or significance.
I hate large info boxes. The larger they are, the less room for pictures of the building in parallel with the text, because you have the space filled with reptitious text in parallel with the text. I hat almost everything about these boxes, and particularly the fact that they give you so many options that you might as well just have a box with lists of info and no text at all. Amandajm (talk) 05:54, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Articles for deletion nomination of 2009 United Kingdom Cabinet reshuffle[edit]
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Community restrictions[edit]
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O Fenian (talk) 10:26, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- Please do not revert my archiving without discussion, the ip editor whose comments you have replaced is a previousely banned disruptive editor, I have replaced your discussion. Off2riorob (talk) 17:12, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Your revert of my archive[edit]
Please explain why you have done that. Off2riorob (talk) 17:08, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- There were issues to be discussed, such as that awful misrepresenting picture of PM Gordon Brown. YOu can't just erase the topics on the talk page! Willwal (talk) 17:12, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- The soapboxing additions by the blocked disruptive editor are good to go, you also have not any edits to these threads, your comments regarding the picture is also of no benefit to the article, the picture has been there over a year and just because you think he should appear more grumpy is not going anywhere. Off2riorob (talk) 17:15, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- The fact that he is a grumpy politician is completely relevant to his picture. I guess that you're voting Labour in the election this year? Willwal (talk) 17:20, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- I care less, I guess you went to private school and vote tory. so what, the talkpage is no place for soapboxing your opinions..
Wikipedia shouldn't misrepresent the UK Prime Minister to be happy and cheerful (which he very clearly isn't!): he's grumpy and depressed looking ... but who can blame him; the country as well as his party detest him! .. this is pure opinionated soapboxing and has no place on the talkpage, I will appreciate it if you don't edit war to keep it on the talkpage, regards. Off2riorob (talk) 17:27, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- Firstly, you didn't answer my question... and secondly, I think you'll find the vast majority of people agree with me. Ask someone like David Cameron or Nick Clegg! And finally, what does my education have to do with you.Willwal (talk) 17:41, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
The article United States presidential candidate girls, 2008 has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
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- Okay, don't delete until I edit to agree with your proposal. Willwal (talk) 15:36, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
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Please stop adding non-free content to templates, as you did here. The use of non-free content on templates is strictly prohibited by WP:NFCC #9. Thank you, --Hammersoft (talk) 21:12, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
February 2011[edit]
Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to The Prebendal School, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. Charles (talk) 23:40, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
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The Right Stuff: September 2011[edit]
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Welcome to the inaugural issue of The Right Stuff, the newsletter of WikiProject Conservatism. The Project has developed at a breakneck speed since it was created on February 12, 2011 with the edit summary, "Let's roll!" With over 50 members the need for a project newsletter is enormous. With over 3000 articles to watch, an active talk page and numerous critical discussions spread over various noticeboards, it has become increasingly difficult to manage the information overload. The goal of The Right Stuff is to help you keep up with the changing landscape.
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A new style guide to help standardize editing was rolled out. It focuses on concepts, people and organizations from a conservatism perspective. The guide features detailed article layouts for several types of articles. You can help improve it here. The Project's Article Collaboration currently has two nominations, but they don't appear to be generating much interest. You can get involved with the Collaboration here.
I am pleased to report that we have two new members: Rjensen and Soonersfan168. Rjensen is a professional historian and has access to JSTOR. Soonersfan168 says he is a "young conservative who desires to improve Wikipedia!" Unfortunately we will be seeing less of Geofferybard, as he has announced his semi-retirement. We wish him well. Be sure to stop by their talk pages and drop off some Wikilove.
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On August 3rd Peter Oborne, a British journalist, became the Project's 3,000th tagged article. It is a tribute to the membership that we have come this far this quickly. The latest Featured Article is Richard Nixon. Our congratulations to Wehwalt for a job well done. The article with the most page views was Rick Perry with 887,389 views, not surprising considering he announced he was running for president on August 11th. Follwing Perry were Michele Bachmann and Tea Party movement. The Project was ranked 75th based on total edits, which is up from 105th in July. The article with the most edits was Republican Party (United States) presidential primaries, 2012 with 374 edits. An RFC regarding candidate inclusion criteria generated much interest on the talk page.
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The Right Stuff: October 2011[edit]
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The Right Stuff caught up with Dank, the recently elected Lead Coordinator of WikiProject Military History. MILHIST is considered by many to be one of the most successful projects in the English Wikipedia.
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The arbitration request submitted by Steven Zhang moved into its second month. The case, which evaluates user conduct, arose from contentious discussions regarding the naming of the Pro-life and Pro-choice articles, and a related issue pertaining to the inclusion of "death" in the lede of Abortion. A number of members are involved. On the Evidence page ArtifexMahem posted a table indicating that DMSBel made the most edits to the Abortion article. DMSBel has announced their semi-retirement. Fact finding regarding individual editor behavior has begun in earnest on theWorkshop page.
Last month it was decided that due to the success of the new Dispute Resolution Noticeboard the Content Noticeboard would be shut down. Wikiquette Assistance will remain active. The DRN is primarily intended to resolve content disputes.
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The Right Stuff: November 2011[edit]
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On October 7, WikiProject Conservatism was nominated for deletion by member Binksternet. He based his rationale on what he described as an undefinable scope, stating that the project is "at its root undesirable". Of the 40 participants in the discussion, some agreed that the scope was problematic; however, they felt it did not justify deletion of the project. A number of participants suggested moving the project to "WikiProject American conservatism". The overwhelming sentiment was expressed by Guerillero who wrote: "A project is a group of people. This particular group does great work in their topic area[,] why prevent them from doing this[?]" In the end there was negligible opposition to the project and the result of the discussion was "Keep". The proceedings of the deletion discussion were picked up by The Signpost, calling the unfolding drama "the first MfD of its kind". The Signpost observed that attempting to delete an active project was unprecedented. The story itself became a source of controversy which played out at the Discuss This Story section, and also at the author's talk page.
Two days after the project was nominated, the Conservatism Portal was also nominated for deletion as "too US-biased". There was no support for deletion amongst the 10 participants, with one suggestion to rename the portal.
In other news, a new portal focusing on conservatism has been created at WikiSource. Wikisource is an online library of free content publications with 254,051 accessible texts. One highlight of the portal's content is Reflections on the Revolution in France by Edmund Burke.
October saw a 6.4% increase in new members, bringing the total membership to 58. Seven of the eight new members joined after October 12; the deletion discussions may have played a role in the membership spike. Mwhite148 is a member of the UK Conservative Party. Stating that he is not a conservative, Kleinzach noted his "lifetime interest in British, European and international politics." Let's all make an effort to welcome the new members with an outpouring of Wikilove.
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Timeline of conservatism, a Top-importance list, was nominated for deletion on October 3. The nominator stated that since conservatism in an "ambiguous concept", the timeline suffers from original research. There were a number of "Delete", as well as "Keep" votes. The closing administrator reasoned that consensus dictated that the list be renamed. The current title is Timeline of modern American conservatism.
The Right Stuff: January 2012[edit]
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On January 21, The Conservatism Portal was promoted to Featured Portal (FP) due largely to the contributions of Lionelt. This is the first Featured content produced by WikiProject Conservatism. The road to Featured class was rocky. An earlier nomination for FP failed, and in October the portal was "Kept" after being nominated for deletion.
Member Eisfbnore significantly contributed to the successful Good Article nomination of Norwegian journalist and newspaper editor Nils Vogt in December. Eisfbnore also created the article. In January another Project article was promoted to Featured Article. Luís Alves de Lima e Silva, Duke of Caxias, a president of Brazil, attained Featured class with significant effort by Lecen. The Article Incubator saw its first graduation in November. A collaboration spearheaded by Mzk1 and Trackerseal successfully developed Star Parker to pass the notability guideline.
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Another discussion addressing the project scope began in December. Nine alternatives were presented in the contentious, sometimes heated discussion. Support was divided between keeping the exitsing scope, or adopting a scope with more specificity. Some opponents of the specific scope were concerned that it was too limiting and would adversely affect project size. About twenty editors participated in the discussion.
Inclusion of the article Ku Klux Klan (KKK) was debated. Supporters for inclusion cited sources describing the KKK as "conservative." The article was excluded with more than 10 editors participating.
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Articles about the GOP presidential candidate and staunch traditional marriage supporter have seen an explosion of discussion. On January 8 an RFC was opened (here) to determine if Dan Savage's website link should be included in Campaign for "santorum" neologism. The next day the Rick Santorum article itself was the subject of an RFC (here) to determine if including the Savage neologism was a violation of the BLP policy. Soon after a third was opened (here) at Santorum controversy regarding homosexuality. This RFC proposes merging the neologism article into the controversy article.
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Hi. Nice work on St John the Baptist Church. I have some more photos I can upload from when I visited a few months ago. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 11:16, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
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The addition of the infobox is duplicative and unnecessary page clutter. It is not justified. It is just there for the sake of it. Please do not add this rubbish. Please discuss this further here Sport and politics (talk) 22:14, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
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Re cathedral organists and all that, when you add a new cathedral, could you please write a little sentence about the cathedral and its music, as I have done for other cathedrals, so that we are able to link the music article directly to the cathedral's home article in every case, because it is bad form to make links in the section headings. e.g. "There has been a choir at Wells Cathedral since 1066 (or whatever)". Also, for the look of the article, could you please maintain 3 columns, whenever the list goes beyond one column. Amandajm (talk) 01:50, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
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If you are prepared to move the article into a sandbox, and then have it moved into article space if he wins, I suggest you just unilaterally go ahead and do that. The discussion at AfD is getting more heated and personalised, and there's no real purpose in letting it continue if you are willing to take that step. Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:31, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
- Oh right, I didn't think I could do that without reaching consensus? Shouldn't there be a vote of some sort? If not, let me know what I should write on the talk page, please! For what it is worth, I have already moved it to this sandbox, to avoid losing all that content etc., which just leaves the deletion process and the wait for the result. However there are several users that seem opposed to deleting the article, so I would not want to do so without reaching a consensus/majority support. Willwal 22:50, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
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Numbering British Prime Ministers[edit]
We do not number British Prime Ministers, please stop doing so. DuncanHill (talk) 11:39, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
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Hi Willwal, here are some thoughts on why we don't number Prime Ministers.
British Prime Ministers aren't numbered like US Presidents for several boring reasons. Firstly, the term "Prime Minister" wasn't used until the early twentieth century, before then the office was called "First Lord of the Treasury", in fact to this day the Prime Minister still is the First Lord of the Treasury, that's what it says on No. 10's letterbox. Another thing is, the United Kingdom didn't exist until 1801, before then it was Great Britain, so technically Robert Walpole was the first Prime Minister of Great Britain and Henry Addington was the last Prime Minister of Great Britain and the first Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. Also, there is a debate as to weather non-consecutive terms are counted twice, like the way the Americans count Grover Cleveland, the Downing Street website says Boris Johnson will be the 55nd person to walk through the doors of Downing Street as PM not the 78th. Then there is the issue of how many times Ramsay MacDonald is counted as the government changed part way through his second term but he remained as Prime Minister. Finally, it's just not a British tradition to count the number people who have held a particular office.
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- Thank you for this explanation, Galloglass - this makes perfect sense and I will steer clear of the numbering issue in future.
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- You were previously told not to do this here. That is still on this talk page so you did already know. DuncanHill (talk) 12:24, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for pointing this out - certainly explains the block and clears up the confusion in my own head as to when/whether I had made similar edits before. Willwal (talk) 12:40, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
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{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. GoldenRing (talk) 12:12, 26 July 2019 (UTC)- When someone contests your edits, you're expected to stop and discuss it. When you don't stop and they report it to ANI, it's a good idea to stop and discuss it. I've blocked you for 12 hours to stop the immediate disruption. If you resume this after your block, the next one will be longer. Stop and discuss. GoldenRing (talk) 12:14, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
- Hi GoldenRing. Completely understand this decision and apologise for the unintended disruption caused. I honestly don't recall whether/when I made similar edits to the numbering of British PMs in the past - I have contributed fairly extensively to an array of political/historical articles over many years, so it wouldn't surprise me if I have indeed made these changes before.
- As such, I won't contest the 12 hour block, but would stress that these edits were made in good faith.
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- @Willwal: If you'll explain to me how you made these edits at about one every three seconds, and commit to not making the same changes again, I'll happily undo the block. GoldenRing (talk) 12:46, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
- Scrolled through the list on List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom, opening the PM articles on new tabs. Edited their respective infoboxes but didn't publish the changes until all 55 had been edited. Then it was just a case of moving between the tabs and hitting the blue button. And yes, very happy to make that commitment. Willwal (talk) 13:10, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
- Done. Whatever your intent (which I'm sure was good), editing in that way can easily give the impression that you're trying to get a big batch of edits done before someone can stop you; I wouldn't do it. Go careful. GoldenRing (talk) 13:36, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
- Scrolled through the list on List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom, opening the PM articles on new tabs. Edited their respective infoboxes but didn't publish the changes until all 55 had been edited. Then it was just a case of moving between the tabs and hitting the blue button. And yes, very happy to make that commitment. Willwal (talk) 13:10, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
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