Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/ShapiroBot

The following discussion is an archived debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. The result of the discussion was

Withdrawn.

Withdrawn by nominator. —Animum (talk) 18:08, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ShapiroBot[edit]

Operator: Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work}

Automatic Supervised, though

AutoWikiBrowser

Deliver newsletters using AutoWikiBrowser

Edit period(s) Daily:

Already has a bot flag No:

Will deliver newsletters using AutoWikiBrowser. I may need help, since I'm a complete novice at bot coding.

Discussion[edit]

The bot function of AWB cannot be run with the typo correction function. Also, spellchecker bots are not permitted. MBisanz ^talk 19:33, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I changed the purpose. Does that look acceptable.

And Bisanz, do i look familiar? Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 19:36, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Aye, I indef blocked you for sockpuppetry and you have since been unblocked, hence why I am not formally denying this bot, since I am an involved user. MBisanz ^talk 19:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Where is it written that formerly blocked users can't run bots? Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 19:41, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nowhere, but I can object in an unofficial capacity that I don't trust you running an alternate account, and if you want a newsletter bot, you do need to have a need for it, like a project that needs its newsletter delivered. MBisanz ^talk 19:44, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I do. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 19:57, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... why not elaborate on this request and how you are going to do this? — E ↗^T ^C ^B 20:29, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can't you message multiple people using AWB? However, I would need a little help. But don't take that as a reason to oppose. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 20:32, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sam, there are many newsletter bots running currently. There's really no need for another. Take User:Newsletterbot for example. -- RyRy (talk) 20:59, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

<--So, you're saying that their can't be any more? Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 21:01, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there can be more, but why not use the current ones? Much easier and faster since their already approved and have the flag. -- RyRy (talk) 21:03, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I had my bot approved for newsletter delivery many months ago, when there were only 2 or 3 newsletter bots, and it still hasn't done much. I don't think 1 more now would make that much of a difference. —Animum (talk) 21:05, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see how a Newsletter Bot can run "continuously". Care to explain? weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 21:26, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I changed it. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 21:30, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Erm, ok then. :/ weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 21:56, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh. This is more exhausting than I thought :| Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 21:58, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Diligent Terrier Bot is approved for delivery and I can deliver whatever you need delivered. If you're a complete novice at using bots, it might be better if you have someone else do the task. - Diligent Terrier (and friends) 23:35, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DT, all I need is a little help at the beginning. I'm a really fast learner. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 23:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any newsletters I can deliver immediately? - Diligent Terrier (and friends) 23:46, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not right this second. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 23:48, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What newsletters do you plan to deliver in the future? - Diligent Terrier (and friends) 23:52, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The one for the FACC, Wikipedia:SURVIVE and Wikipedia:TAR. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 23:57, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Both of the projects you've mentioned only have eight members at this time. Do think there is a need for a bot to perform this task? - Diligent Terrier (and friends) 23:58, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's not impossible for more people to join.

And I will also be open for other people's requests for their WikiProjects' newletters to be delivered by my bot. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 00:00, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If this bot was approved, and the WikiProjects didn't grow, would you use it to deliver the eight newsletters? - Diligent Terrier (and friends) 00:03, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Those are just 3 off the top of my head. I will also deliver the newsletters of other, larger WikiProjects per requests. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 00:05, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My suggestion would be to deliver the newsletters using AWB manually under your own account, this would help you get acquainted with AWB and demonstrate that you know the process. This is what I did for WP:VG until Xenobot was approved. xeno (talk) 14:40, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Sigh. Then they'll say, "Just keep using AWB." Give a man a fish, he's fed for a day. Teach a man to fish, he's fed for a lifetime. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 14:42, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - "Teach a man to use a pistol before you give him an automatic rifle" would be more appropriate. I just checked your entire edit history and didn't see a single "using AWB" edit. xeno (talk) 15:18, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - Okay, you win. I just wanted to see if i could help, but it's clear that I'm not needed. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 16:10, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      - It's not about "winning" or "losing" or whether you are needed. I just don't think it would be appropriate to allow someone to run a bot using AWB when they have no experience with the AWB infrastructure. You do realize an AWB Bot is exactly the same as running AWB normally, except you just have to click "save" manually? Work with the tool for a bit, clicking a mouse 8 times to deliver a newsletter without a bot flag is not a big deal. xeno (talk) 16:12, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        Anyway, I'm not wanted or needed. Someone close this request and delete the userpage. It's clear that I'll never be trusted enough to have a bot. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 16:14, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.