Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Dundee United F.C./archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article review. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 20:39, 3 February 2007.

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Dundee United F.C.

This article has been listed as a good article under the good-article criteria and could be worthy as a featured article, particularly to those interested in football and sport. Fedgin | Talk 09:37, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Object Most of the way there, but still has some rough edges.

• Facts mentioned in the lead should also be mentioned in the relevant sections of the main article.
• What critieria for incusion are used for the list of notable past players?
• Lack of images - while images are not obligatory to pass FAC, it should be simple enough to create at least one free-use image, such as a picture of Tannadice. The fair-use Euro 2008 logo should not be used in this article, as Euro 2008 is not the subject of the article.
• What is the origin of the nickname Terrors?
• When did Dundee Hibernian join the Scottish Football League? In what year did the club first reach the top division?
• There are a few too many one or two sentence paragraphs, which should be merged or expanded.
• A few things require citations, including
  • Dundee F.C. protesting the use of the name Dundee City
  • The significance of the Scandinavian players of the 1960s
  • Being the first Scottish club to reach the UEFA Cup final
  • Uniqueness of their record against F.C. Barcelona
  • Newspaper headlines following the FA Cup win
  • Being the only club promoted to the Scottish Premier League by a playoff
  • The proximity of Tannadice to Dens Park.

Oldelpaso 20:47, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

• Ack, I missed the PR for this one, as did everyone else it seems. Anyway, object.
  • Everything Oldelpaso said.
  • I'll re-emphasise the need for freely-licenced images of the team or the stadium, this is the biggest sticking point.
  • The italicised comment at the top of the "Colours and badge" section (The jerseys below are meant to reflect either a change in colour or prominent design. Please see the discussion page for more on this.) should not be there - articles should never refer to their own talk pages.
  • List of supporters should be deleted, consensus is they are of little merit in articles.
  • List of managers should be ideally be given tenures, statistics for the matches, as in e.g. Arsenal F.C.#Managers. If, as I fear, it gets too long it should be moved into a separate article and only the most significant managers in the club's history listed.
  • Succession boxes for trophies should be removed - can you imagine if this was done for every trophy in every article? Too much of a waste of space.
  • All managers and players should be wikified, not just ones with existing articles. If there are too many red links in the article from wikifying, then create articles for them.
  • Records should be better formatted, and could even be split off into a new page. e.g. Arsenal F.C. records. Qwghlm 21:08, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

• Objection. Agree with Oldelpaso. The writing could use a copyedit. Several paragraphs are in bad form, comprised only of two sentences. Repeated use of whilst is archaic usage and should be changed to more modern usage. I would prefer if the "Achievements" section were turned prose rather than be a list. This isn't a bullet point on a resume. Elaborate on these "achievements." While not absolutely necessary, it would be nice to have some real images other than .gifs of the uniform. —ExplorerCDT 09:18, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article review. No further edits should be made to this page.