Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/West Indian cricket team in England in 1988

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article review. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted 18:32, 22 February 2007.

West Indian cricket team in England in 1988[edit]

Thoroughly sourced, neutral, illustrated article, with appropriate statistics, tells the story of a summer of chaos for English cricket, the "Summer of four captains". Has been peer reviewed and failed one GA nomination; concerns have been addressed. Renommed for GA, but huge backlog at GA candidates page; in any case, it seems it's now at FA level anyway. This article is largely a collaboration between myself and User:The Rambling Man, with help of late from some of the cricket Wikiproject, notably User:ALoan who gave it a copyedit. --Dweller 10:12, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blush, well suppport, but outside views from non-cricket-afficionados are particularly welcome - are there any parts that need further explanation? -- ALoan (Talk) 11:17, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support--I've been watching this article from its first GA nomination and it has come a long way. Well done.--Eva ^bd 12:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support if I may be so bold. Agree with ALoan, however, any other words of advice? The Rambling Man 16:01, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support I know nothing about cricket, but this article was pretty easy to follow with my general understanding of sports and the effective wikilinking. The article is also well written and well referenced with appropriate use of inline citations. Jay32183 21:17, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support There are one or two lines which are not sourced such as "England had grounds for optimism leading up to the Test series", which is undeniably true. Normally I would demand a source but I believe that in this case it would add nothing to the quality of the article, and thus it gains my support. Great article - good subject - brings back some memories - and we sure do miss Malcolm Marshall.-- Zleitzen (Talk) 01:35, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Nice article. May prove to be the forerunner of similar articles in FAC. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 09:57, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment --Shouldn't this article be called West Indian cricket team tour of England in 1988 instead of its current title? Mercenary2k 21:43, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - not sure, but if you check WP:CRICKET it has guidelines for the naming of these type of articles, and the current name seems to comply. The Rambling Man 21:48, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, it's in the style guide there, "cricket tours are named "[visiting team] in [host nation] in [cricket season]": for example, New Zealand cricket team in Zimbabwe in 2005-06" --Dweller 22:06, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment and Support ---Hmmm thats a weird naming scheme. But oh well, I support then. Mercenary2k 01:47, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support - clear, well written. Looks like an FA to me. Guettarda 02:41, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment- Did they not any warm up matches against county teams? Buc 07:32, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Comment the whole itinerary for their tour is here, each match is mentioned within the article. The Rambling Man 07:52, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think the results should be make clear in either a list or a table. Also since this article is about the West Indians does there need to be so much about the England team? Buc 16:54, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Re the results, we can look at that. I think it's currently done encyclopedically but appropriately succinctly for non major matches. The article follows the standard titling for a cricket tour. Any international cricket tour is about a series between two (sometimes more) teams. The major feature of that tour was England's disarray. As an analogy, an article about a world cup in Foo, would be imbalanced if it focussed on the performance of Foo in the tournament. --Dweller 17:03, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would give undue prominence to the matches against the county sides if they were given equal billing to the Tests and ODIs - and they were almost all draws anyway, as the article already says. As Dweller says, the major parts of an overseas tour by a Test team are the Tests and ODIs against the host team (and, sometimes, another visiting team) - the series are largely bilateral, so it makes sense to speak about both teams. And, in this case, the main interest of the tour was the poor performance of the England team. -- ALoan (Talk) 17:11, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was going going on the title of the article. A better title would be "1988 series between WI and E" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bole2 (talk • contribs).

As above, the WP:CRICKET style guide for such articles dictates this particular name, it's used in dozens of articles across WP. The Rambling Man 22:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It reflects the standard naming convention in most serious cricket reference works. It's slightly archaic and not entirely intuitive, but it's encyclopedic (and consistent). --Dweller 09:21, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So basically it's about the 1988 series between WI and E but not allowed to be called so. Um ok I guess I can live with that. Still don't like it though. Support

Buc 17:34, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article review. No further edits should be made to this page.