Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/You Belong with Me/archive1

You Belong with Me[edit]

Featured article candidates/You Belong with Me/archive1

Nominator(s): Ippantekina (talk) 10:00, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about a song by Taylor Swift, an American musical artist. Those who have heard this song might remember it via the infamous mic grab in 2009. That incident aside, this song is a pretty good pop hit that was everywhere in 2009 but was denounced by feminists. I believe this article is well-written and comprehensive for the bronze star. I appreciate any and all comments, Ippantekina (talk) 10:00, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I'll do a full review soon (I owe it to my son, who literally just the other day told me that after three months with his Swift-obsessed girlfriend he has a favourite Swift song for the first time in his life and this is it :-)) but one thing caught my eye on a quick readthrough: In "TMZ", Yankovic sings about the ways paparazzi and the bossip website TMZ.... What is "bossip"? Is it a neologism/slang term of which I am not aware (in which case, is there an appropriate wikilink?) or is it just a typo? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:21, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Chris, I noticed there were a few typos after the GOCE request, so I did a read through and eliminated all remaining typos. Ippantekina (talk) 09:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, I wasn't sure if I was not just down with all the latest terminology :-) I'll do a full review shortly...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:23, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Draken Bowser[edit]

It's always nice to see all the aspects that can be comprehensively covered for a famous song, where there's plenty of sources. I especially like the paragraph on music theory including chord progressions. It's a decent song as well, although I tend to agree with Alexis Petridis.

Lead: Prefer "..widely covered controversy."
Background: "was recorded by ~~the~~ audio engineer" and I know -ing is generally frowned upon, but isn't "She recalled him becoming defensive" better? For the final sentence, is there anything more to it? As it is written it's not evident why it would be due?
Music and lyrics: "The lyrical motifs evoke a typical American high-school setting; the narrator sees herself as a typical girl and an underdog, and the girlfriend is a popular, attractive cheerleader." - Change one or the other. - "as an underdog contributes to her reliability." - Was this supposed to be about being "relatable"? I was only able to read one of the sources so I'm unsure, but as it is written it doesn't make complete sense to me.
Accolades and retrospective reviews: "Sheffield ranked it 128th out of Swift's 243 songs" - add year here as well
Live performances: "You Belong with Me" was the opening number on the set list of Swift's first headlining concert tour the Fearless Tour in 2009 and 2010." - Optional commas around "the Fearless Tour".

That's all for now. Regards. Draken Bowser (talk) 15:25, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Draken Bowser:, thanks for the comments. I've addressed all of them accordingly :) Ippantekina (talk) 16:26, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Supporting. Draken Bowser (talk) 08:24, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I forgot, the somewhat vague "final sentence" refers to: Rose suggested Swift write "something about bleachers" and they conceived another lyric: "She's cheer captain and I’m on the bleachers". I've warmed up slightly to it, but I'm still unsure why it would be important to single out this passage, after it has already been established that they co-wrote the lyrics. Draken Bowser (talk) 08:47, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Imo it's a fun fact that Rose was the one who suggested the bleachers lyric to Swift, no big deal! Ippantekina (talk) 12:30, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments[edit]

"both the antagonist—an unsympathetic, popular brunette cheerleader, and the protagonist—a sympathetic" => "both the antagonist—an unsympathetic, popular brunette cheerleader— and the protagonist—a sympathetic"
"with prominent, high-school and fairy-tale lyrical imagery" => "with prominent high-school and fairy-tale lyrical imagery"
"a close male friend, whom she understood but was in a relationship" => "a close male friend, whom she understood but who was in a relationship"
"and said, contrary to Swift's status as an attractive and popular figure, her" => "and said that, contrary to Swift's status as an attractive and popular figure, her"
"Critics commented Swift's vocals are the most prominent change" => "Critics commented that Swift's vocals are the most prominent change"
"Emily St. James commented on this recording, Swift's voice" => "Emily St. James commented that, on this recording, Swift's voice"
That's all I got! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:45, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the review, should all be done now! Ippantekina (talk) 14:54, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aoba47[edit]

Unfortunately, I will be unable to do a full review for this FAC, which is a shame as this is my favorite Taylor Swift song. I am not sure about using the karaoke version as the audio sample. I would imagine that readers would benefit from hear the main version of the song and hearing how the elements of the instrumental discussed in the caption are represented in the actual song. I just do not think that this is the most helpful choice. Apologies again for not being able to do a review, but I still wanted to point this out. Aoba47 (talk) 21:57, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]