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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was kept by Casliber via FACBot (talk) 2:35, 30 October 2020 (UTC) [1].

Final Fantasy X-2[edit]

Notified: Ryu Kaze, Deckiller, Square Enix WikiProject, Video games WikiProject

Review section[edit]

There was a call for an FAR back in January and I agree with that. There is information that is not cited in the article as well as this being a very old Featured Article has it not meeting the current criteria. It just needs an overhaul. GamerPro64 04:49, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • @GamerPro64: I've reorganised and cited the gameplay section and done some rewriting and rearranging in other areas. --ProtoDrake (talk) 13:10, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @GamerPro64:@SandyGeorgia: I am a huge fan of this game and have a pretty extensive amount of knowledge about it so I will try my best to help. Aside from the uncited portions, what else requires improvement? I have noticed the citations use an inconsistent date format with some using Y/M/D and others using M/D/Y. I am uncertain about what variation of English would be used for a Japanese game so I am unsure which way to correct that. Aoba47 (talk) 21:47, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Upon doing a brief read-through, I do notice a lot of issues with the prose, and I would reckon that sections like the "Reception" one would benefit from an overhaul. I will try to get to the article this weekend or next week if that is okay. Aoba47 (talk) 21:51, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yeah sure. FAR isnt supposed to be about removing article status. It can at least have the page have some fighting chance. GamerPro64 14:58, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for the response, and apologies for the long message. I have never participated in a FAR before, but I figured I should try to at least help somewhat given my knowledge of the game. Aoba47 (talk) 19:59, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Aoba47, if you can do what you can for now, I will re-engage in a few days when I have more time to list anything else I see. User:Deckiller did a lot of work to help other editors at FAR in his day, so if you can help save this star, it would be grand! Do what you can for now, and ping this page when you need more feedback. Best regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:47, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @GamerPro64: Apologies for my delay in looking at the article. I think the "Reception" section is the major area that should be overhauled. It does not address reviews for the remasters or any retrospective reviews. The structure as a whole could also use more focus, and I think the second paragraph on sales would work better as its own subsection. I'd be curious on your opinion on this section. I have never worked on something this popular so I am uncertain of how to balance length.
  • However, I will work on other issues first. I will get to the final paragraph for the "Versions and merchandise" section and "Music" subsection over the next few days, and check around for uncited material in the overall article. I am holding on the "Reception" section for the moment because frankly it will require the most work and I wanted to get your feedback on this first. Apologies for the ping. Aoba47 (talk) 05:04, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Have you thought about asking the Video Game or Square Enix WikiProject for help? GamerPro64 20:43, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • That is a good point. I will post a message on both talk pages in the next day or two. I have not really worked on projects with active WikiProjects so it is not something I think of right away. Aoba47 (talk) 22:03, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Aoba47: WP:RECEPTION gives excellent advice for that section. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:14, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @SandyGeorgia: Thank you for the resource. The reception section should be completely rewritten. I have already said this, but my biggest concern is the gaps (i.e. retrospective reviews and re-release reviews). I have attempted to copy-edit this section, but I am not particularly satisfied with my first pass-through. While the rest of the article is in much better shape, this section alone would take in my opinion a substantial amount of work and time to bring to a FA level. I am sorry to say this, but this is the point where I have to stop. Hopefully, my edits were not harmful (and they can be reverted of course) and apologies again. This is just way too much for me right now. Aoba47 (talk) 04:00, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks so much for trying; there is only so much any of us can do, and any improvement is worthy. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:28, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

FARC section[edit]

Issues raised in the review section include sourcing, organization, and comprehensiveness. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:29, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delist - It can probably become a Good Article with some polish but not a Featured Article in its current form. GamerPro64 03:00, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Changed my vote to Keep. The article has improved from its previous iteration so I feel comfortable with it retaining its FA status. GamerPro64 16:04, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd like to take a stab at the article before delisting. Can I get the weekend to do what I can? Axem Titanium (talk) 18:57, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delist as it requires a lot of work to meet the FA criteria. Aoba47 (talk) 12:19, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Changing my vote to keep due to the improvements made to the article. Thank you for all of the work Axem Titanium. You have done a great job, and as someone who grew up with and still loves the game, I am very happy to see the article improved so much. Aoba47 (talk) 18:19, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Happy to hold this if you can get some steam up @Axem Titanium: Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:50, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I found some time the other day to get through most of it. I have a little bit left to do before I ping the people here for a second look. Thanks, Axem Titanium (talk) 20:03, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Axem Titanium: take your time and ping when you're done. Better is done thoroughly than quickly. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:55, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @GamerPro64, Aoba47, Sjones23, Nikkimaria, and Casliber: Thank you all for your patience. Thank you also to Aoba for your work on the article as well. I finished my copyedit and polish for the article and I think it's in much better shape overall. I also added a new section on Legacy, which I hope addresses Aoba's concerns about the gaps in the critical reception section. Further re-release reviews can be found in the See also: Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster#Reception. Axem Titanium (talk) 03:20, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for your edits. You have done a great job with the article. I was unaware there was a separate article on the HD Remaster. Apologies for not checking for that before commenting. I have struck my delist vote as my issues with the article have been addressed. Thank you for again for taking the time to do this. Aoba47 (talk) 03:25, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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