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The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 18:57, 12 March 2011 [1].

Latin Grammy Award for Producer of the Year[edit]

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Nominator(s): Jaespinoza (talk) 07:53, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I think it has all the elements necessary for inclusion, I used my work on the Latin Grammy Award for Best New Artist as the basis for this one. Thanks. Jaespinoza (talk) 07:53, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

At GreatOrangePumpkin. No that's wrong. Honor has a silent 'h', so it should be "an honor" not "a honor". Magiciandude (talk) 21:50, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I always spell it like it is written, oops :/-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 22:11, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments:

  • I would recommend adding at least two additional images, if possible (there appears to be enough room on the side)
  • I believe Sergio also received five nominations, so the lead should be adjusted accordingly

I will take another look when I have more time. --Another Believer (Talk) 17:06, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 17:20, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Link "Latin" appropriately (before "... recording artists")
  • "51% of the duration of an album.." try to avoid starting sentences with numbers like that.
  • "At the 2010 ceremony, it was the first time that joint winners were announced,..." not great English, perhaps "The 2010 ceremony saw joint winners announced for the first time."
  • 2010 has three recipients but two nationalities.
    • Jorge Calandrelli and Gregg Field (joint winners), Sergio George (another winner). Field and George are from the United States, and Calandrelli is Argentine. Jaespinoza (talk) 21:50, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • In fact, I'm confused by the table (with three recipients) and the lead, which has two joint winners mentioned.
  • Image captions don't need full stops as they're not complete sentences.

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:50, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still confused here. In 2010 I assume a pair and an individual shared the award, right? The phrasing in the lead is confusing. And having only two nationality flags with three people is confusing, particularly as, on my screen, Gregg Field is on the same line as the Argentina flag. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:36, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed the table and the lead, I hope it is more clear now. Jaespinoza (talk) 19:15, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • "creates a wider awareness of cultural diversity and contributions of Latin recording artists, nationally...." - which nation does that refer to?
Fixed! Jaespinoza (talk) 19:02, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • "The 2010 ceremony saw joint winners announced for the first time, Jorge Calandrelli and Gregg Field for their work on A Time For Love by Cuban trumpeter Arturo Sandoval;[7] they shared the award with Sergio George.[7]" is a messy multi-run-on sentence, I suggest amending it to "At the 2010 ceremony, joint winners were announced for the first time, when Jorge Calandrelli and Gregg Field were honored for their work on A Time For Love by Cuban trumpeter Arturo Sandoval. They shared the award with Sergio George.[7]"
Fixed! Jaespinoza (talk) 19:02, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • The above also suggests that the producers are nominated for their work on a specific recording. If this is the case, should the recording not be mentioned in the table.......?
Working on it! Jaespinoza (talk) 19:02, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Futher comment on the issue: While reviewing the database for Latin Grammy winners, they (the Latin Academy) only show the winner, not their work, do I have to put the nominated work? Jaespinoza (talk) 18:08, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If the Academy don't actually specify the work(s) for which the producers are nominated, then I would suggest that you say something like "The award for Producer of Year was first presented to the Cuban songwriter Emilio Estefan in 2000. In that year Estefan produced the albums..........etc etc" rather than specifically stating that he was nominated for producing those recordings, if the Academy don't specify it. Does that make sense......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:14, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Has this concern been addressed? Dabomb87 (talk) 15:07, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. Jaespinoza (talk) 17:02, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hope that helps -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:11, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment

Per Wikipedia:ALBUMCAPS and Spanish capitalization, the albums and songs in Spanish need to have lower case letters unless it's a pronoun. Magiciandude (talk) 01:56, 12 February 2011 (UTC) Recanted comment due to discussion at WT:ALBUMS. Magiciandude (talk) 22:39, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support The indefinite article has been take care of and the ALBUMCAPS for non-English titles have been discarded. Magiciandude (talk) 06:00, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No, fundamentally disagree. Album names and single names should meet WP:V which means we use WP:RS to back them up. We don't "synthesise" the names based on academic rules. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

  • "The award is given to a producer whose recordings released during the eligibility period represents extraordinary creativity in the area of record production." For the grammar to work, both "recordings" and "represents" can't be plural. I'm thinking the second one should be changed.
Fixed. Jaespinoza (talk) 07:00, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Two or more producers can participate as a team only if they have worked together only during the period of eligibility." The double use of "only" strikes me as redundant. I'm not convinced the first one is needed to get the point.
Fixed. Jaespinoza (talk) 07:00, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sergio George's first name doesn't need to be repeated in the third paragraph. It doesn't seem consistent with what is done in the rest of the lead, and I wouldn't recommend it anyway. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 21:36, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. Jaespinoza (talk) 07:00, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Jaespinoza, have you asked all reviewers to revisit? Dabomb87 (talk) 23:25, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I did not know I had to do that. I will do it. Thanks. Jaespinoza (talk) 01:08, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Now it seems to satisfy FL criteria. Ruslik_Zero 19:26, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and made a few minor edits to the list. I also included a key along with cell coloring to illustrate the joint awards in 2010 (see Grammy Award for Best Polka Album for another example). Hopefully Jae and other reviewers will be satisfied with this addition to the list. I support the promotion of this list assuming the concerns by other reviewers are addressed. --Another Believer (Talk) 23:24, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Grammy Award for Producer of the Year really should be a dab page between two Grammy Awards. Should change it to indicate if you intend to link to the classical or non-classical award.
Fixed. Jaespinoza (talk) 18:29, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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