Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of 1920s jazz standards/archive1

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The list was promoted by Dabomb87 02:21, 6 May 2010 [1].

List of 1920s jazz standards[edit]

Nominator(s): Jafeluv (talk) 14:47, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Featured list candidates/List of 1920s jazz standards/archive1

This is the second part in a series of lists of jazz standards. A well-referenced list on an interesting topic, and as far as I can tell it now meets all the criteria. Two peer reviews have been made: The first one before List of pre-1920 jazz standards was split from this article, and a second one after the split. Jafeluv (talk) 14:47, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Staxringold _talk^contribs 22:55, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

*Initial comment Is the definition of a standard clear enough that this is a completely finished list of them all? If it's not clear this is 100% of them I would say this needs {{Dynamic list}}. However, definitely complete enough for me to support eventually (as opposed to some other dynamic lists I've commented on). Staxringold _talk^contribs 14:58, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's not a completely finished list, because of how the term is defined. I guess {{dynamic list}} could be added at the top. Jafeluv (talk) 15:20, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would, then just to make it clear that a "standard" isn't something like a gold record. Staxringold _talk^contribs 18:08, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done. I put it at the start of the first section (ie. 1920–1923). Is that okay? Jafeluv (talk) 18:31, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support Staxringold _talk^contribs 22:20, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from KV5

I agree with Stax on the use of the dynamic list template. The other major concern I have here is that the entry for nearly every song starts with a sentence fragment. These should be removed, expanded, or otherwise altered to get rid of this grammatical error. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 15:13, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Would you prefer replacing "Song". Song composed by Composer. with "Song" is a song composed by Composer. or similar? Jafeluv (talk) 15:24, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That would be just fine. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 16:00, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I'll update the pre-1920 list as well later. It has the same problem, although it didn't come up in the FLC. Jafeluv (talk) 07:52, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support – upon a second review, I find that I have no other qualms with this list. Cheers. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 16:12, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 09:29, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments very interesting!

"was a much-imitated innovator" while this may be true, can you cite it or else it could be construed as WP:OR.
Changed to "important innovator", and added sources. Jafeluv (talk) 12:04, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure that jazz needs to be used three times in the opening sentence.
Reworded. Jafeluv (talk) 12:04, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"includes tunes written" not sure about tunes, perhaps compositions, pieces, something else?
"Includes compositions written" would work just as well. However, do you mean all instances of the word "tune" (there are quite a few), or just this sentence? Jafeluv (talk) 12:04, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"is a popular song" popular according to whom?
Changed to "is a song". Jafeluv (talk) 13:21, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Some song titles have their own refs (e.g. Avalon) while others don't. What's the significance of sometimes citing the name?
Some refs are not used to reference the text, but rather the standard status of the tune itself (eg. all the fakebook references). In those cases, I've put the ref right after the name of the tune. Jafeluv (talk) 17:35, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"The song is also known as "That Night in Araby" or "The Sheik"." is this referenced?
I've removed this for now, because I couldn't find a reference for it. I'll keep looking, though. Jafeluv (talk) 17:35, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think linking ragtime would be appropriate.
Done. Jafeluv (talk) 12:50, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"The original recording of the song was titled "Bugle Call Blues"." is this referenced?
Done. Jafeluv (talk) 12:50, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"The song is also known as "Everybody Loves My Baby, but My Baby Don't Love Nobody but Me"." ditto. Can you check all of these "also known as"s are referenced?
Done. Checked the others as well. Jafeluv (talk) 12:50, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Cole Porter was one of the few Tin Pan Alley songwriters to write both lyrics and music for his songs." undoubtedly true, but can you ref it to avoid OR accusations...
Done. Jafeluv (talk) 13:11, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Bloomington, IN" can you be more verbose, i.e. Indiana, for our non-US readers.
Done. Jafeluv (talk) 12:50, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Don't mix date formats in the references.
Fixed. Jafeluv (talk) 12:50, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 59 could use a pp. not just a p. And 99. And 118.
Done. Jafeluv (talk) 12:50, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 83 needs a spaced en-dash, not a hyphen.
Done. Jafeluv (talk) 12:50, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 119 could use a publisher.
Done, although it looks a little silly now with the repetition: "Time (Time)". Is it ok like that? Jafeluv (talk) 12:50, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 10:39, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support my concerns addressed. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:45, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Well written and well referenced list. Ruslik_Zero 18:29, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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