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The list was promoted by Dabomb87 18:49, 18 June 2011 [1].

List of 2002 Winter Olympics medal winners[edit]

List of 2002 Winter Olympics medal winners (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Strange Passerby and Courcelles 10:11, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Skipping forward 50 years, here's the next entry in our series of Winter Olympics medalist lists. A judging scandal, doping scandals, bribery scandals (though not relevant to this list), and, amidst all that scandal, some fine moments of sport; Michelle Kwan faltering in the Free Skate while Sarah Hughes came from nowhere to take gold; the first time women ever did an Olympic bobsleigh run, and more Yang Yang's than you can keep track of. Enjoy, and comment, please. Courcelles 10:11, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Comments from KV5

Not much to complain about here at all. Just a few minor things:

  • When you have "2 x 5 kilometre" and the like, the "x" needs to be the times symbol (HTML × entity or the symbol in the toolbox)
  • A MOS:NUM question, really: what about "10000 metres"? MOS:NUM prescribes the comma for all numbers 9999 and above, but I don't think it would be right to have one different from the rest. Your thoughts welcome.
    • Hmm, interesting. The counterpoint is, that despite the MOS saying that, the article about the race (and all other 10000 metre races) lives at Speed skating at the 2002 Winter Olympics – Men's 10000 metres. Courcelles 15:12, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • Right. This I noticed. This is probably an issue to raise at an appropriate WikiProject talk page for discussion. FLC's probably not the appropriate place for an overarching debate. It's not a huge thing at all, so it won't hinder my support when that time comes, but it's something that should probably be talked through. — KV5 • Talk • 15:15, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • One redirect in the toolbox "external links" tool; possibly to be looked into
    • Done... The month changed, so the IOC moved everything around. (I exaggerate. Slightly.) Courcelles 15:12, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • No links to events in the lead? If I didn't watch the Winter Olympics, I wouldn't know what the skeleton is...
  • "Ski jumping World Cup" - uncap "Ski"
    • I've done the opposite and capitalised the J in Jumping as I should've originally; it's a proper noun. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 01:34, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Other than that... great job! Great images too. — KV5 • Talk • 14:58, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Harrias talk

As KV5 said, a pretty good list overall. Just a couple of points from me:

  • "The Games were affected by doping problems, with four medal winners losing their medals following doping disqualifications." – Noun plus -ing should generally be avoided, try to rework rework the sentence to remove it.
  • A note on the discussion about large numbers above: in the lead you place a comma in "2,399 athletes". To be consistent, you should either take this out, or place commas in any four digit numbers in the tables.
    • MOS suggests we can use (or choose to not use) the comma when dealing with four-digit numbers. It's worth noting, as Courcelles mentioned, that the official event names do not include a comma (at least in the official report). I wouldn't mind removing the comma from 2,399, but will wait to see if Courcelles agrees. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 11:41, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • I agree that the MOS suggests that you can use either: but I would suggest you use one or the other, not both. Harrias talk 15:38, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
        • Removed two commas from the lede. Courcelles 06:05, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I echo KV5 once more; some lovely images! Harrias talk 09:50, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support all my concerns have been addressed. Nice work. Harrias talk 19:14, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Provisional Support – Everything looks good to me, aside from what has already been said above me (and even I can't get too worked up about the comma issues). Have to agree that the photos really enhance the list; that lead image would look great on the Main Page. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 23:28, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 16:05, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "the Winter Olympics were in Vancouver" -> "were held in Vancouver".
  • "New events were contested in Salt Lake City; ... The 78 events in Salt Lake City..." Salt Lake City repeated quickly.
  • "Both men and women competed at these Games, with 886 female and 1,513 male athletes attending the Games" Games overdose.
  • "Athletes from 24 of ... medal; athletes from 18 won at least one gold medal.[7] Athletes from Australia and China won... 55 athletes" I know, perhaps I have a compulsion to bring this up, but how many times in a few sentences do you need to repeat athlete....?
  • "The United States teams in the four-man bobsleigh event won" think a comma after teams and event.
  • What does FIS stand for?
    • Fédération Internationale de Ski, though, much better recognised as FIS. Courcelles
  • Col widths aren't the same from section to section (in Safari).
    • They're all set at 200/175, so I'm not sure what's going on. They should be the same width, unless you're on a very small monitor. Courcelles 06:03, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • In captions, I often see "pictured left" etc in italics. What do you reckon?

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:36, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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