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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by User:The Rambling Man 07:14, 11 August 2008 [1].

List of Assyrian kings[edit]

I'm renominating this list, as I've added references and addressed the outstanding issues from the first nomination. It was already clear and well laid out - and as the previous nominator pointed out, it's an important reference. Historicpastime (talk) 21:25, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

previous FLC (15:51, February 9, 2007)

  • Comments
    • Standards have moved on since the last nomination... avoid bold links in the lead.
 Done
    • Lead is far too short.
 Done
    • Place citations per WP:CITE e.g. don't have a space between punctuation and reference.
I started each footnote on a new line to make the page *much* easier to navigate for editing. This is causing spaces.  Done
The header refers to "The" Assyrian King List, as opposed to just any list of Assyrian kings, such as this article is. I can remove the "the" if necessary, but it seems to make sense in this case.
    • em-dash doesn't usually take a space before and after.
 Done wasn't sure about that
    • Kings who lived in tents? This section is predominantly red. And some aren't linked at all. What's the difference?
The red links are names that would have to be disambiguated from other articles if an article were made about them. This came from the {{Assyrian kings}} template, where everything was linked, and some names were found to be mis-directed. If it's a problem, I can remove the links.
    • Instead of ""altogether 17 kings, tent dwellers." [4]" I'd write some text and explain what this means.
That is what the King List itself says. In all the references I've seen, these statements are simply quoted without comment, because we have no more information about it. Presumably it's a reflection of a perceived nomadic past.
    • Why is known reign in parentheses in the table?
because we don't have dates for these rulers, although we have the regnal lengths from the King List. I parenthesized all reigns for which we can't extrapolate any dates - which are all reigns preceding the damaged text before Enlil-nasir II which can't be synchronized with any other datable ruler or event. If necessary, I can remove them from the regnal lengths.
    • Where are the references for this table?
 Done added note
    • Why the multi-coloured table?
It was like that when I came along - I think it's attractive and adds clarity. I'll change it if necessary.
    • It appears (to me, at least) that the text is smaller in the table than in the main list. Why?
It is at 90% text size, which gives more space for comments. I can change it, if it's necessary.  Done
    • Avoid spaces between citations.
I started each footnote on a new line to make the page *much* easier to navigate for editing. This is causing spaces.  Done
    • " (Assyrian King List A gives four years to Ashur-nadin-apli and 14 years to Ninurta-apal-Ekur.)" - why a whole sentence in parentheses?
It's parenthetical to the preceding sentence. I could change it to a footnote, or something.
    • Check your use of en-dash for year ranges. Are the spaces required?
 Done I looked it up a while back, and the MOS recommended spaces for clarity. I see there's been a lot of editing going on on that page. *sigh* Now I have other tables to update as well.
    • Don't overlink your (short) - the tables aren't sortable so one link is cool.
The problem is that this doesn't apply to every date in any one table. It would be more awkward to have to explain in the caption that "short" only applies to such-and-such dates. Also, we want to lable the chronology used for dates elsewhere in Wikipedia, and people who use this chart as a reference can easily copy-paste formatted and labled dates from it.
    • Page ranges in Notes need to use en-dash (e.g. ref [11])
 Done
Thank you for the feedback. Historicpastime (talk) 19:58, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

 Done
  • I agree the lead is too short. Consider moving ==The Assyrian King List== to the Lede
 Done (expanded lead, but left a small ==The Assyrian King List== section, because it's a specific document.)
  • [5] [6] -- don't put spaces between references
 Done
  • Put full stops/periods at the end of sentences
 Done not sure where you mean, but I turned a few phrases into sentences.
  • Use capital letters at the beginning of sentences
 Done not sure where you mean, but I turned a few phrases into sentences.
  • "Apiashal, son of Ushpia", but "Samani, "son of Hale"" be consistent with itallics and double-quotes
 Done missed that one
  • Avoid using small text in the tables for users with poor sight
 Done

Matthew Edwards (talk • contribs • email) 06:26, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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