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The list was not promoted by The Rambling Man 19:19, 10 May 2010 [1].

List of Avatar: The Last Airbender characters[edit]

List of Avatar: The Last Airbender characters (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Nominator(s): haha169 (talk) 03:37, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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I am nominating this for featured list. It has grown greatly since several years ago and I believe that it now matches the WP:FL? criteria for featured list. I have used List of Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow and Dawn of Sorrow characters, another FL, as the main template for this list because there is very little precedent for character-related featured lists.

This list is well cited. It has an engaging lead and is written in prose. All images are tagged with rationales. Let's begin the nitpicking. --haha169 (talk) 03:37, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from DragonZero (talk · contribs) 03:46, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Some of the sites seem sort of unreliable. The one linking to avatarthelastairbender.org seems quite suspicious to me.
Done I have removed that ref. There was another supporting ref for that setence. By the way, I went through the rest of the links and didn't find anything that seemed suspicious to me.--haha169 (talk) 03:19, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Some of the refs might benefit from episode link, such as adding |episodelink=Avatar: The Last Airbender (season 1)#ep1 to the cite episode template.
I was not aware that you could link directly to an object in a list. I thought it was only possible to go to subsections. Could you possible provide an example? Thanks. --haha169 (talk) 03:19, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
List_of_Case_Closed_episodes_(season_14)#ep425, this links to season 14 episode 425. I set up a link to the first episode of Avatar in my example. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 05:50, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done --haha169 (talk) 03:29, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The reference dates of retrieval should be in month, day, year.
I will do that so each reference will be uniform. But I was not aware that it had to be m,d,y. Some FAs definitely use y,m,d. --haha169 (talk) 03:19, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done --haha169 (talk) 03:25, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
From my experience, characters mentioned in a characters section should be interlinked.
Interlinked? How so? --haha169 (talk) 03:19, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I mean section linked like in the Aang section, you can link to Katare by going [[#Katara|Katara]].DragonZero (talk · contribs) 05:50, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think I know what you mean. You want me to link the characters. However, I thought it was common practice to not re-link things that have already appeared previously in the article? Also, each character has its own article so section linking isn't necessary. --haha169 (talk) 02:49, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All I have for now. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 05:00, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This reviewer doesn't seem to be returning to address my updates and has not responded to my request to reconsider ([2]) within 48 hours as asked on the top of the FLC page even though his contributions show that he is still active elsewhere on Wikipedia. --haha169 (talk) 03:08, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from DragonZero (talk · contribs) 03:46, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments 2
  • Minor things. In the conception section, 85 would look better as eighty-five.
  • It would be nice if you can find a more reiable site than Internet Movie Database (reference 20).
    • IMDB is one of the most reliable sites that we use on Wikipedia. --haha169 (talk) 06:07, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Fixed Sorry; I got this confused with something else. --haha169 (talk) 06:17, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think there's too many un-needed quotation marks such as in Katara's section; "Water Whip" and "Blood bend" It would reduce in-universe if the abilities were explained instead of having names attached to them.
  • Earthbending links back to the Avatar series but that doesn't help.
  • For Zuko, "anti-hero and tragic hero and", too many ands, replace the midddle one with a comma.
  • Azula does not need quotations on friends.
  • The recurring character sections may have un-needed characters and should be organized by appearance/impact on the plot instead of alphabetized.
    • I personally feel that since most of hte recurring characters have similar impacts on the series, alphabetical order is the best organizational form. I do agree that two of the characters seems unneeded, and have removed them. --haha169 (talk) 06:07, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Casting controversy should begin by explaining its the cast for the live action film.
    • Cast listed. There really isn't much to "explain" at the moment. --haha169 (talk) 06:15, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I feel that overall it needs a copy-edit to be more stoic, just me though. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 04:17, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I did a major copyedit to the recurring character section, where I thought it was most needed. --haha169 (talk) 06:07, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thank you for your comments. :) --haha169 (talk) 06:15, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support

Not much left to say, references look good and a few more copy edits to make it more stoic would make me support it strongly. Looking at List of Naruto characters might help you there and may provide more suggestions. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 06:40, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 15:04, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • We don't start lists with "This is a list..." any more. Check out some of the recently promoted lists for examples of what we do do...
    • Done, I checked out the recently promoted Olympics medals list. Am I right to assume that it is similar to how articles begin, a brief summary of the topic?--haha169 (talk) 02:56, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The series deals with a war that was started by the Fire Nation as an attempt to conquer the world, due to the absence of the Avatar, who alone holds the power to counter Fire Nation aggression and balance it with the other three countries, the Air Nomads, Earth Kingdom, and the Water Tribes, to create peace." this is a single sentence, and whoa, it needs some work. I'd suggest splitting it up a bit.
  • If you wish to link antagonist, do it on the first instance.
  • "included a flying bison. His partner, Michael Dante DiMartino" whose partner? The flying bison?
  • "bending" just links to the main Avatar article.
    • Done - the article seems to have been deleted. --haha169 (talk) 02:55, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think it's worth a brief note to actually say what "bending" is in this context.
  • Is it "Jing" or "jing"?
    • By itself, it is Jing but if it is mentioned following an adjective (ie. neutral) then it is lower-case. --haha169 (talk) 02:47, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "portrayed by Noah Ringer in" ref? All the live action portrayals need refs...
  • "group;[32] " comma, not semi-colon.
  • "15 year old" hyphenate.
  • Do we really need to link warrior or leader?
  • Also think linking blind is over the top.
  • "short power " what is this?
    • Done, added a definition in parenthesis. --haha169 (talk) 02:47, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "direct, brutally frank" aren't these synonymous?
    • Done. Yes, I removed the latter. --haha169 (talk) 02:47, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "firebenders.. [27] " one too many periods, and there should be no space before the ref.
  • "is voiced by Mako for two seasons until his death" whose death? it reads unclearly.
    • Done Until Mako's, but I've just removed "until his death" for simplicity's sake. --haha169 (talk) 02:47, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The recurring characters have the actors named. Are these the actors in the original series or the live action film or both or what?
    • Done, I made it more clear as to who played in which version of the franchise. --haha169 (talk) 03:45, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "of Ba Sing Se - eventually" should be a comma. or a spaced en-dash. Certainly not a spaced hyphen.
  • "voices against the casting. When asked about casting a white cast to portray" cast x3 reads repetitively.
  • "and Shyamalan go out of their way to " suddenly Shyamalan is introduced. What does he have to do with anything?
    • Done His name was added to the lead. --haha169 (talk) 02:47, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 71 needs en-dashes not spaced hyphens. Check others (e.g. 68)
  • Ref 33 has pp. despite only referring to a single page.
  • Los Angeles Times has no "The".
  • You have a completely empty "External links" section.

The Rambling Man (talk) 08:04, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment There is a dead link; please check the toolbox. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:49, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • The cite template requires the original dead link when providing an archived link. That particular dead link has an archived equivalent. --haha169 (talk) 03:42, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Sorry, Syfy seems to be removing its articles lately for some reason, and I confused this with another Syfy article which I had found an archive of. I have removed that cite since there was no archive on Wayback Machine and it wasn't seemingly necessary. --haha169 (talk) 04:10, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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