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The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 06:48, 6 August 2008 [1].

List of European Cup and UEFA Champions League winners[edit]

I'm nominating this list for featured status as I believe that after a peer review which addresses many issues this list is now meets all the criteria necessary to become a featured list. Thanks in advance for your comments NapHit (talk) 21:08, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Crzycheetah 21:42, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • ...however, this was changed in 1997 to allow the runners-up of the stronger leagues to compete as well. - should be sourced
    • The image caption seems like it's a fragment.
    • The table in the Champions section should have class=wikitable sortable
    • The columns with flags should have a title; can be an abbreviation.
    • Rather than putting "R" under the "year" column, why not put a note in the "notes" column? Just like you did for the games that finished in a penalty shootout. It took me a while to find that "R" you mentioned in the 'Key.
    • Since you're using a common name for Real Madrid, Ajax, etc., I suggest using "Monaco" instead of "AS Monaco" and "Partizan" instead of "FK Partizan". This helps when sorting.
    • The current ref#2 states that the publisher is "Uefa.com" while others state "UEFA". Change it for consistency.
    • Refs #2 and #3 are pdf files, so you should add format=PDF field to {{cite web}}.

--Crzycheetah 03:10, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments I've dealt with them all NapHit (talk) 13:44, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Just change "F.C. Porto" and "FC Porto" to just "Porto".--Crzycheetah 21:42, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • I think the opening sentence should define the scope of the contest, not who the inaugural winners were.
    • Too much reliance on primary sources (i.e. UEFA) - citations for these finals should be easy to find at reliable sources which aren't the UEFA website.
    • "Champion won after Extra time" no need for capital E here.
    • Same for capital "Times Won" (i.e. won) and "Times Runner-up" (runner-up).
    • When sorting by "Won", Ajax sorts before Bayern Munich but BM have been runners-up one more time than Ajax so I'd expect them be above Ajax in the table when sorted like that.
  • The Rambling Man (talk) 10:01, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done all, except the Ajax sorting problem which I am unsure how to fix, help would be welcomed NapHit (talk) 21:19, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment
    • I think the list should be called List of European Cup and UEFA Champions League winners. Champions just sounds wrong to me. "Champions of Europe" or "European champions" sounds OK, but "European Cup champions" or "Champions League Champions" doesn't sound right. --Jameboy (talk) 23:54, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done NapHit (talk) 18:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment
    • I think all the note labels for the penalty shootout should be placed next to the score, not in the notes column.—Chris! ct 02:58, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't agree the notes column is where the notes should go the colouring and sign indicate the penalty shootout, thus all the reader has to do is look across to the notes column and click on the note to see the penalty shootout score NapHit (talk) 17:09, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • "UEFA Champions league" --> "UEFA Champions League"
  • I think you should start the Lede using "The UEFA Champions League is a seasonal association football competition established in 1956.", rather than European Cup, and then with the sentence "In the 1992–93 season, the tournament was renamed UEFA Champions League.", reword it to "prior to the 1992–93 season, the tournament was named the European Cup."
  • "Previously, only the champions of their respective national league could participate in the competition;" --> "Originally, only the champions of their respective national league could participate in the competition;"
  • Pipelink 1956 in the opening sentence to 1956 European Cup Final rather than the one that currently does it
  • "Real Madrid, Ajax, Bayern Munich, Milan, and Liverpool." Don't use the serial comma in British English
  • Provide the cities and/or countries for teams such as Ajax, Benfica and Juventus, where it isn't clear in the name where they come from.
  • "The current champions are Manchester United who beat Chelsea 6–5 on penalties" Please reword and link to penalty shootout, and also link to extra time. You can then delink these terms in the Key section.
  • 2008 final should be 2008 Final
  • Is it possible to extend the widths of the Nat columns so both the flag and ISO-3 codes appear on the same line?
  • There isn't any real point in making the "Years won" and "Years runners up" columns sortable in the "Most successful teams" section, as only the first year is sorted

Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 09:22, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've dealt with everything except for the cities of teams such as Ajax, which I feel is unnecesary, if people want to know the city the team is from they can click on the article link to find out. NapHit (talk) 17:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, that's fine. And I now Support Matthew Edwards (talk • contribs • email) 05:28, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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