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The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 22:08, 8 November 2008 [1].

List of Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Opening Day starting pitchers[edit]

We are nominating this list because we believe it meets the FL criteria and is consistent with other Opening Day starting pitcher featured lists. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] and Rlendog (talk) 03:21, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Review by SRX (talk · contribs)
  • Mike Witt has the record for most Opening Day starts for the Angels, with five. - the first for should be of.
  • That doesn't seem to sound right. Just going through some other Wikipedia articles of record holders (admittedly not featured articles) they seem to use "record for" in this context. For example, from Hank Aaron:"His most notable achievement was setting the MLB record for most career home runs with 755...", and from Lou Gehrig:"His record for most career grand slams (23) still stands as of 2008." I think it should say "record of" 3-0 if I was describing his win-loss record, but "record for" number of wins when describing the category he is a recordholder for. Rlendog (talk) 23:24, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Addressed. I deleted the phrase "record for" entirely, which should resolve this. Rlendog (talk) 00:26, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • He has a record of one win and three losses (1–3) with one no decision in those starts. - comma after (1-3).
  • He also has the best won–loss record in Opening Day starts for the Angels with his 3–0 record. - should be win-loss not won-loss. Also, instead of with his 3-0 record how about which is 3-0?
  • The Angels played in the World Series championship games once in their history, in 2002, and they won the World Series that year. - redundant to keep repeating the same thing over and over, --> The Angels have played in one World Series championship game in their history, which they won in 2002.
  • The publisher for each ref should be linked, if someone clicks the 10th ref first and not ref #1, they will not see the publisher because it is only in #1.

--SRX 21:36, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comments. I addressed most of them but had a concern about the first one. Rlendog (talk) 23:26, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I now think I addressed the first comment too. Rlendog (talk) 00:26, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:45, 30 October 2008 (UTC) [reply]
Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

  • Image captions that are complete sentences should have full stops (periods).
  • "Mike Witt has the record for most Opening Day starts for the Angels, with five. "
  • "Frank Tanana, Mark Langston and Chuck Finley all have made four Opening Day starts for the Angels." "all have"-->"have all"
  • "He also has the best win–loss record in Opening Day starts for the Angels which is 3–0."-->He also has the best win–loss record in Opening Day starts for the Angels which is 3–0." Comma after "Angels".
  • "The other Angels'"—No apostrophe.
  • "The Angels have played in two home ball parks during their history."
  • "to the Indians"—Who are the Indians? (what team)
  • Added Cleveland Indians (with Wikilink) Rlendog (talk) 00:28, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dabomb87 (talk) 00:05, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comments. I think I've addressed them all. Rlendog (talk) 00:28, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The Angels played in the World Series championship games once in their history, which they won in 2002." This is awkwardly phrased. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:52, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • You're right. I revised the phrasing. Rlendog (talk) 02:17, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support – I was asked to review, but didn't find any problems. I'm happy to support this list. Thanks, – RyanCross (talk) 03:31, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support, all issues resolved. Alansohn (talk) 02:12, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved issues, Alansohn (talk)

Comments from Alansohn (talk · contribs)

Review by Alansohn (talk · contribs)
  • The franchise has also gone by the names "Los Angeles Angels", "California Angels" and "Anaheim Angels" at various points in its history. Please provide a source on the various names and consider detailing when these various names were in use.
DONE -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 04:36, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • No decisions are only awarded to the starting pitcher if the game is won or lost after the starting pitcher has left the game. Clarify that a no decision can also result if a starting pitcher does not pitch five full innings, even if his team retains the lead and wins. We should consider a standard wording describing the no decision.
Just copied your sentence into the article. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 04:36, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please consider sourcing all of the generic summaries of most starts, best record, etc., to the summary from Baseball-Reference, unless more specific sources can be found.
But it's on the list itself though. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 04:36, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I added the B-R summary as a reference in a couple more places, particularly the paragraph that counts various pitchers' Opening Day starts. Rlendog (talk) 18:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Angels have played in two home ball parks. This and the subsequent paragraphs should be sourced. The Angels site at mlb.com has a ballparks history available.
DONE -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 04:36, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ...their starting pitchers have 13 wins and 12 losses (13–12) with 2 no decisions - As I see it, we can say "13 wins and 12 losses" or "13–12" but I don't see that both need to be used. This occurs in several places.
I'll just put, 13 wins ad 12 losses. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 04:36, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please note that these are not demands. They are suggestions and recommendations that I hope will be considered constructive. If they make sense and improve the article, feel free to apply them. If not, an explanation should suffice.
Thanks for telling me that, but I answered all of your comments in order to get a support from you. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 04:36, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alansohn (talk) 03:45, 3 November 2008 (UTC) Review II items:[reply]

  • The 24 starters have a combined Opening Day record of 23 wins, 18 losses (23–18) and 7 no decisions. - Again use either the "23 wins, 18 losses" or "23–18", probably not both. There's no reason not to mix up the two styles in the remainder of the article.
DONE -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 05:02, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • They played their first season in Wrigley Field...' Clarify that this is not the one in Chicago. The source came in handy in this expansion.
DONE -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 05:02, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Angels have played in one World Series championship in their history, which they won in 2002. Can I suggest linking "2002" to the 2002 World Series instead of the baseball season article.
DONE -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c] 05:02, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Again, there is no obligation to accept these changes, only that you will consider them. Your disagreement will not dissuade me from supporting the article.
Again, thanks for telling me, but I answered all of your comments in order to get a support from you.
Alansohn (talk) 04:48, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:00, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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