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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 29 January 2023 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of National Football League annual receptions leaders[edit]

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Nominator(s): Newtothisedit (talk) 23:32, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The state of NFL lists on Wikipedia is very poor compared to fellow major American sports leagues such as the NBA, NHL and especially the MLB. This is the first list in a project of mine to raise the standard of NFL lists. The style and format of the list is modeled after the NFL featured lists List of National Football League rushing champions and List of National Football League annual receiving yards leaders. I look forward to any input and suggestions that you may have! --Newtothisedit (talk) 23:33, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments
  • Link Johnson in photo caption
 Done Assuming you mean Michael Thomas as there is no Johnson with a photo.
Yes, brain fart on my part :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:55, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • In the table he is Michael Thomas, Jr. but not in the caption?
 Done Changed name in table to Michael Thomas as majority of websites, his wikipedia page and his jersey don't use Jr. Leaving Sr. in Steve Smith's table entry as his wiki page and jersey have Sr. on it.
  • "In addition to the overall National Football League (NFL) receiving champion, league record books recognize statistics from the American Football League (AFL), which operated from 1960 to 1969 before being absorbed into the NFL in 1970, Although league record books do not recognize stats from the All-America Football Conference, another league that merged with the NFL, these statistics are recognized by the Pro Football Hall of Fame." - source for all of this?
 Done Added sources
  • The "set record" bit should be in the same key as the rest
 Done
  • Players' names should sort based on surname, not forename as at present
 Done
  • "Tom Fears broke the single season receptions record in consecutive years in 1949 and 1950" - this caption is a complete sentence so needs a full stop
 Done
  • "Kellen Winslow became the first Tight end to lead the NFL in receptions in 1980." - no reason for capital T on Tight
 Done
  • Ref 7 says it was retrieved in 2015. Does it still source the whole table? If not, what sources the last few rows?
 Done Database updates every year, still sources entire table.
  • Date format in refs is not consistent. There are also refs with no publisher listed, and some with the same publisher shown in different ways.-- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:28, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Done References should now have standard date and publisher format.--Newtothisedit (talk) 21:24, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
One more point - it would be better not to use the asterisk to indicate two different things. As the symbol is there to help people who can't see the colours, it doesn't make much sense to use the same symbol to denote two different things -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:55, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's not specified in the key, but their meaning is different based on the column they're used in. Would a tilde as a replacement for one of the asterisk look weird? Or would that be good option? I'm asking because I'd like to standardize across some of these NFL lists. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:01, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that would work -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:47, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Blech, you made a good point but I don't like how the tilde looks. Any suggestions on alternative characters to use besides the caret and asterisk? Hey man im josh (talk) 19:30, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
† and ‡ are pretty common..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:55, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Done, made changes to the symbols so asterisks are not used twice. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:55, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • There's just a few issues left with ref formatting. Pro-football-reference.com is shown in italics in some refs but not others, and refs 12-14 show no publisher at all -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:54, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
     Done, these have been fixed to match the other Pro-football-reference.com references. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:11, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:38, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)[edit]

These apply to the 2 big tables mostly, not the key table

  • Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting |+ caption_text as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting |+ {{sronly|caption_text}} instead.
 Done--Newtothisedit (talk) 16:48, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding !scope=col to each header cell, e.g. ! Year becomes !scope=col | Year. If the cell spans multiple columns with a colspan, then use !scope=colgroup instead.
 Done--Newtothisedit (talk) 16:48, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding !scope=row to each primary cell, e.g. | {{NFL year|1932}} becomes !scope=row | {{NFL year|1932}}. If the cell spans multiple rows with a rowspan, then use !scope=rowgroup instead.
  • Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. --PresN 00:28, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
     Done, I believe the row and column scopes are now properly done up. Would you mind verifying it when you get a chance @PresN? First time adding those so I just wanted to be sure I did it properly. Also thank you for your example edit, it helped. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:49, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Looks good! --PresN 19:00, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from NapHit[edit]

  • "a recorded stat in football games." should probably be statistic here as stat isn't really encyclopedic language.
  • Should be statistics in full going forward. Few more mentions of stat that need to be addressed
  • I'd move the reference for the table next to the table caption, instead of as a note above the table.
  • You need to add 'plainrowheaders' to 'wikitable sortable' to prevent the seasons from bolding per MOS:BOLD instructions to avoid bold links
  • As there's only one ref per column in the AFL table, should be Ref instead of Ref(s)

That's all from me. I also have a list that could with a review here if you've got the time :) NapHit (talk) 13:48, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved all comments Newtothisedit (talk) 19:12, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by RunningTiger123[edit]

  • Alt text for images would be good
  • "has led the NFL" – he's not still playing, so remove "has"
  • "has changed on 16 occasions" – I'm counting 15 in the table
  • "in his 11 year NFL career" – unsourced, so add a source or cut it
  • "the first tight end to lead the NFL..." – citation needed
  • Source 10 does not cover the entire table; it's missing 2020 and everything before 1950. I would suggest adding source 9 as a reference for the entire table (i.e., list sources 9 and 10 next to each other at the top of the section).
    • Also, update source 10's access date to after the 2021 season.
  • Table header: "NFL Annual Receptions leaders by season" → "NFL annual receptions leaders by season"
  • Why does 2016 have its own source? If it's not needed, remove it.
  • One section title is "List of NFL annual receptions leaders" but the other is "AFL reception leaders"; I'd standardize the format for the section names.

— RunningTiger123 (talk) 19:56, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved all comments Newtothisedit (talk) 20:54, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Harper J. Cole[edit]

  • It seems like the AFL table should follow the same format as the NFL one for consistency.
  • The statement that Art Monk was the first player with 100 receptions needs clarification, as the AFL records were absorbed by the NFL, and Lionel Taylor did it there some years earlier.

Harper J. Cole (talk) 23:24, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done Newtothisedit (talk) 01:10, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks - the new table looks good. With regard to the 100 reception stat, Lionel Taylor didn't accomplish it twice; it was him once and Charlie Hennigan once. Also, that stat is mentioned in the lead section as well as the Art Monk picture. Harper J. Cole (talk) 19:01, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed Newtothisedit (talk) 21:25, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support - looking good. Harper J. Cole (talk) 23:04, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment[edit]

Checked all the sources, look fine, no concerns with them although I can't check the source from a book . MasterMatt12(talk) 17:47, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Linked PDF of book with page number. Newtothisedit (talk) 18:00, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This nomination has been up for a really long time, so this is a review and a source review and a close. I didn't find any issues worth holding up the close for but instead just tweaked some source formatting myself, and the source review passes, so promoting. --PresN 22:20, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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